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PlayerScore / GearScore  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)
Version: 5.0.01
by: Mirrikat45 [More]
PlayerScore Overview
PlayerScore is the next evolution of GearScore and aims at providing a utility infinitely more useful then just the score of a player's equipment. PlayerScore provides raid leaders with a wealth of instant knowledge such as
  • Complete Raiding History - Allows you to view an easy to read breakdown of a player's raiding history including every boss kill and current top-tier raiding progression.
  • Equipment Layout - Well designed layout allows you to manually check a player's gear quickly and easily. Advanced item tooltips make spotting bad items even easier with flags for enchantments, gems, and reforging.
  • Primary Stats - Shows you a break down of the stats a player is gearing for. This provides a great way for raid leaders to make sure player's aren't stacking spell pen, or have 200% hit rating, or DKs gearing for Agility.
  • Talent Spec - View a player's current build. You can also flag talents as bad for a specific spec and have PlayerScore notify you in the future when a player is using those talents.
  • Automatic Character Auditing - PlayerScore will display a list of flags for when players have missing or bad gems & enchantments; bad talent specs; missing equipment; wearing equipment for another spec or class; using pvp items; or riding TRH.
  • Player Ratings - PlayerScore uses our online servers and custom anti-abuse technology to allow players to rate eachother on a thumbs up or down basis. This allows you to easily spot players who don't get along well with others or just plain suck.
PlayerScore also provides a set of very extensive options. Almost every single feature can be disabled to save memory or increase performance. You can also disable features to save space and only provide the information you care about most. You can also run the addon in "Lite Mode" which will disable the entire GUI showing only information on player tooltips.


Additional Resources
  • PlayerScore Website - Check your GearScore, view your ratings & comments, or measure up on the global scoreboards at the official website. www.PlayerScore.com
  • Bug Reporting - Please Report all bugs and issues through the official Bug Submission Form.
  • PlayerScore Forums - Make suggestions & comments, or ask questions on the official PlayerScore Forums
  • PlayerScore Blog - Get the latest news and upcomming features from the addon by reading the PlayerScore Blog.
Copyright 2010 - Master Games International, Inc.
5.0.01 - September 26th, 2012
* Hunter Weapons should now count as two handed weapons.
* This addon will no longer explode whenever a panda comes near.
* Pandaran classes fully supported.

4.8.03(b) - June 28th, 2011
*TOC file was updated to allow the addon to work with WoW 4.2 patch. (PlayerScore 4.8.01 had changes required for the addon to work with wow 4.2)

4.8.03 - June 13th, 2011
* Players with Two-Handed weapons will no longer be flagged as missing an item.
* Wands will no longer appear as "Not Enchanted"


4.8.01 - June 11th, 2011
* The addon has been modified to allow for simultaneous functioning on both WoW 4.1 (Live) and WoW 4.2 (PTR).
This will prevent the addon from breaking when the next wow patch goes live.
Some bug fixes are aimed specifically at the PTR version of wow.
* Actually Updated TOC file this Time.
* PvP GearScore's tooltip replaced the old out-dated PVE score's tooltip.
* Fixed a bug where fury warrior's Equipped Average Item Level was always reporting 0.
* The Quick Rate Frame should no longer be displayed whenever your party wipes.
* Fixed a bug where Crossbows were not receiving bonus GearScore when attached to a scope.
* Updated the Raiding Difficult to include Firelands raids.
* Added More Tooltips for the Raiding Difficulty Chart.
* Fixed a bug where PlayerScore would fail to function in WoW 4.2 (PTR).
* Fixed a bug where the equipment tab would display random letters in front of item names and levels on WoW 4.2 (PTR).
* When Playing WoW 4.2 (PTR), the experience tab will show kills for Firelands raid bosses.
In addition, the Raid Progression section of the Summary tab will also reflect this change.


4.8.00 - June 1st, 2011
* Fixed a bug with players less then level 10 having issues caused by lack of a talent frame.
* Fixed a bug on line 2920 involving a nil value. (Thanks viper!)
* Player ratings and information will now be shared with your guild mates!
Ratings for players on your server may appear differently then global ratings on the PlayerScore website.
This is because ratings that appear online require the PlayerScore updater to submit and download.
While ratings for your guild will be shared amongst your guild mates, but may not be shared globally.


4.6.00 - May 10th, 2011
* Fixed some bugs with the chat filters.
* Modified Item Score calculations to determine PvP Item Score of an item.
* News tab has been scrapped to make room of a future feature.
* Keybinding Option has been added.
* Introduction of PvP GearScore
* Change required slight modification in regular score calculations. This means items may change in score up to +1/-1 points. (Due to rounding).
* Change requires a database modification, which will cause a wipe to previous database.
* PvP GearScore is now set to display by default.

4.5.03 - May 3rd, 2011
* Bug Fixes
* Updated Version Notifications.
* Added chat filters for item level compatibility.

4.5.02 - April 27th, 2011
* Cataclysm Dungeon Stats will now appear on the experience tab.
* Cataclysm Dungeons will now show in the Raiding Progression section of the Summary Tab.

4.5.01 - April 26th, 2011
* Updated addon for Wow 4.1.00
* Fixed a bug with the new RegisterPrefix function.
* Fixed a loophole that accidently caused the quick rate mode to appear even in lite mode.

4.5.00 - (Not Released)
* Renamed the tabs to make some more room. (For Future Planned Releases).
* Template Engine Support added for Quick Rate Frame. (See Below)
* Fixed a bug that was causing class color information gathered from quick-scan mode to populate the group(database) tab with table values instead of hex color values.
* Fixed a bug that cuased redundent and usless database operations whenever a player entered/exited an instance of any kind.
* Masterloot mode will no longer display players from previous instance groups.
* Character Claiming for
* Quick Rate Mode! In previous versions of the addon, it would become difficult to rate players at the end of a dungeon because they would quickly leave the party.

The new Quick Rate Mode attempts to remedy this by displaying a small window whenever the user exits a 5-man dungeon. There is now an option in the options menu that can disable this feature. You can also type "/psrate" at any time to open the window and rate party members. Due to previous limits within addon, only players who have been scanned by the addon at some point since the last login will appear in the quick rate frame. Finally, all players who join your party at some point during the instance will be listed in the Quick Rate Frame. This means players who join and are then vote-kicked or abandon the instance will appear for you to rate.

The Quick Rate Mode will display each Player's Name (Colored by Class), their GearScore, and Thumbs Up/Down for rating. In addition an Icon will be displayed for viewing the negative and positive factors in a player's score.



4.4.03 - April 13th, 2011
* Stack of Misc Bug Fixes
* Fixed multiple bugs involving concatenation of null values.
* Fixed Bugs involving the Group Window / Scan All Function.
* Fixed some Spelling Errors.
* "√ Enchanted" Text will now also include which enchantment on the line.
* "√ Reforged" Text will now appear below the enchanted check and will also display how the user reforged their items.
* GearScore will now display as either "√ GearScore" or "X GearScore" Depending on rather or not the item is meant for your spec.

4.4.01 - March 31st, 2011
* New Minimap Button!
* Hammer Icon disabled by default! (Woot!)
* Characther Verification System - type "/claim" to claim your toon on playerscore.com and earn a special in game title!
* Fixed additional "Achievement UI Errors" from Blizzard.
* Added support for 4.1 Addon Prefix registration.
* Lite Mode - The first time you run PlayerScore you will be presented with the option to run in Lite/Full/Manual mode.
* /psreset - Resets PlayerScore Settings back to default and allows you to choose between Lite/Full/Manual Mode again.
* Several Additional Bug Fixes


4.3.02 - March 1st, 2011
* Fixed a bug involving "ClassColor" on line 2544.
* Fixed a bug which caused lag or errors on mouseover of loot items.
* Added the option to disable the Masterloot tooltip information when mouseing over items.
* Slight Changes in Default Template Transparency.
* Added Template support for new Alert Frame.
* Added PVP Statistics to PVP Frame.
* Added Arena Ratings & Rated Battleground Information to PVP Frame.
* Improved Quick Scan Feature
* Updated English Local File
* Added Enchantment status Text to item tooltips - Thanks Wolfpreacher!
* Significant Reduction in UIAchievement Errors.
* You are only allowed so many inspections / second. Previously, when targeting a player an inspection was used with the "Quick-Scan" feature.
This would prevent you from using the PlayerScore GUI to inspect them further or to view more detailed information. Currently however,
The system has been modified to queue that inspection when it becomes available. This should allow you to use the PlayerScore GUI even
when Quick-Scan mode is enabled.



4.2.02 - January 30th, 2011
*Fixed a few Misc Bugs
*Updated the Raiding Difficulty Chart
*Fixed a bug with rings showing up as unenchanted.

4.2.01 - January 25th, 2011
*Re-adjusted the previously fixed bug in cataclysm items. GearScore formula is now on par with WOTLK calculations. As a result everyone should receive a 1400 - 1600 increase in GearScore. (This is the last score change, I promise!)
*It is now possible to obtain "OVER 9000" GearScore.
*Quick Scan mode has doubled in speed over the last version. Total is now 4 times faster then the original. As a result, it has been enabled by default.
*Added "Verbose" mode which is on by default. This will show missing gems/enchants/talents/and bad equipment on the tooltip!
*Fixed Localization Errors
*Updated Russian Local (Thanks StingerSoft!)
*Updated Raid Difficulty Chart


4.1.03 - January 18th, 2010

*Fixed a bug in GearScore Calculations for Cataclysm Items. Most players will stay at about the same score, while those in top-tier equipment will receive a noticeable drop.
*Playerscore will now scan at more then double the speed as previous versions. However, the scan speed is still based on your latency. In addition, if you clear your item cache (which occurs automatically after a patch.) then scans may be slow for a few hours while your item cache repopulates.
*The info displayed in the tooltip when mouseing over yourself will now always display the most recent information. Previously it was only displaying information from the online database.
*Few additional bugs and tweaks.
*Foundation layed for PVP Tab, look for it in the next version!
*Fixed a bug where gems were not displaying on the equipment tab.



4.1.03 - January 7th, 2011

*Fixed a bug for line 2332 "attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'ItemScore' (a nil value)"
*You can now see Off-Spec item scores for your equipment. Enable this option in the options menu.
*You can now view "Equipped Average Item Level" in the Equipment Pane.
*You can now view "Equipped Average Item Level" on the mouse-over tooltip when you have Quick-Scan mode enabled. You can enable this option in the options menu. We will try to update our database so that AIL info is available on mouse-over at all times.



4.1.02 - December 31th, 2010

*Fixed bug on line 648 for new installations.
*Fixed a bug on line 1215 involving a nil value.
*Updated Chinese Localization (Thanks wowuicn!)
*To Improve performance, a 1min cooldown on quick-scanning the same target now exists. You can still quick scan new targets at the normal rate.
*Corrupted Online Database Entries will now be automatically removed.



4.1.01 - Decenber 28th, 2010
*Fixed a few bugs.
*Online data should now work on realms with either a space in their name, or an apostrophe.
*Fixed a few spelling mistakes.
*Added a filter to automatically remove junk data downloaded from past updater versions.
*Updated RU Localization (Thanks StingerSoft!)



4.1.00 - December 21st, 2010

*Fixed a bug where the escape key would not work until the talent frame was toggled.
*Added Template System - Visit forums.playerscore.com for more information.
*Added GearScore Classic Theme.
*Added Quick-Scan Mode.
*Partial Russian Localization (Thank you StingerSoft).
*Fixed a bug which prevented ratings for cross-realm players.
*Added Support for Ebonsteel Belt Buckle.
*Fixed a bug where player ratings would not be visible on the paperdoll frame.


4.0.01 - December 14th, 2010

"/gs" will now open the main window even if you have no targets.
"/gearscore" and "/playerscore" have been added to the list of slash commands.
The Hammer Icon has been updated to be much more attractive. In addition it's physical size has been reduced.
The Escape Key should now work for all players.
Significatant reduction in Achievement Errors.
Updated Border Graphics
LDB Plugin is now enabled.
You can now disable / enable each of the modules in the addon.
You can now select the default theme's color. A future update will allow you to download customizable themes and skins.
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Originally posted by AnrDaemon
You know it's not a matter of showing/not? Addon actually inspecting players, not asking if they want to be inspected/not.
As long as Blizzard allow player inspection, such addons will continue to exist.
This would make sense if GearScore had multiple variations running around. So far, GearScore is the only GearScore. The other methods such as be.imba, wow-heroes, elitist group, etc... all put -some- measurement of you having to actually make a judgement yourself instead of basing it on a number. If your argument is that you're not basing your judgement on a number, then I direct you to the post you made just after this one:

Originally posted by AnrDaemon
If i'm reading addon screenshots right, Uld10 listed at 3850, and Uld25 at 4000.
Am I blind or what?
This is exactly my point, and probably most others' points too. Most people don't care if Ulduar only needs 3850 for 10 man. They want 5000. You made the same mistake as these people by labeling Ulduar as 3850 in the first place. It's nice to have a quick assessment of a player through a number that is relatively close to a content's needs. But the majority of players would rather be carried or don't want to give lower geared players a chance. While it has some merit that people are bad if they have a low GearScore, it's not always the case. Nor is it always the case with players who have high GearScores meaning they aren't bad. It's not difficult to carry people through most progression, and the carried players are the ones who are usually the most needy. AKA: GearScore 5k+ Flame Leviathan or you don't go.

TLDR: GearScore is used inappropriately in most cases, can be solved easily by adding GearScore blocking from the addon itself.


Edit: Here's some interesting information:

http://gearscoreaddon.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=109

Originally Posted by Arxkanite, AKA Mirrikat45
Yeah, this is a bad idea. but i still kind of like it lol. Bad because people will absolutely hate it. The problem is that achivement info isn't ready on mouseover, and requesting it from the server on mouseover cuases a player to drop severly in FPS and connection. However, I can add it to the GearScore Display window. But Can I just keep it a secret option?
Originally Posted by Arxkanite, AKA Mirrikat45
I currently cant fit anymore information into a GaerScore transmission. Fitting Name, Race, Class, GearScore, average ilevel, zone, scannedby, and 18 peices of armor and their potential enchantments fits the maximum size of a data transmission. Using multiple transmissions causes everyone to shit their pants and QQ about imaginary lag that they themselves make up.
ITT: Achievement tracking as a possible secret option and spamming addon messages creates "imaginary lag"

http://www.brigwyn.com/2010/01/14/episode-20-thl-podcast-special-edition-interview-with-the-creator-and-developer-of-gearscore/

That's a link to a podcast interview with Arxkanite/Mirrikat45. He discusses his intent of GearScore and how it backfired. The hilarious and interesting part of the two quotes above (from a thread on his own forums) is that it directly contradicts his statements. Or, if you're into anarchy, it falls directly into place as he follows suit with it's own destructive agenda.
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Originally posted by Beoko
GearScoreBreaker would not even exist if players had an alternative to "GearScore 5k+ only". Especially since you need 5k GearScore for 10 man Flame Leviathan, right?
If i'm reading addon screenshots right, Uld10 listed at 3850, and Uld25 at 4000.
Am I blind or what?
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Originally posted by Beoko
You know it's not a matter of showing/not? Addon actually inspecting players, not asking if they want to be inspected/not.
As long as Blizzard allow player inspection, such addons will continue to exist.
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Originally posted by Myself, earlier on the page...
The author could have easily solved this long ago by adding an option to block showing your GearScore. That is a win-win situation, and I have no idea why it hasn't been implemented yet. After all, if players wanted to have access to the option they would have to download GearScore.
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Originally posted by Mirrikat45
You have to look at their coding more closely....
So in a nutshell, people have no choice in being scored, as I originally said? I assure you that I'm not supporting such sabotage, but it seems that a simple check for UnitName("player") instead of just simply altering EVERYTHING coming through should be feasible, but not so sure if it's even possible now that the addon doesn't accept old/future data (which I'm looking at how that's even possible since all updates would have a future date).

If that's the case, then may I make a suggestion that may appease the masses and kill some (if not all) of the heated controversy:

Make GS communicate and score only those who have GS installed. Other players who do not wish to be "scored" will have the option for just that by simply continuing what they're doing; opting not to use/be a part of a mod by exercising their right to not install it. Meanwhile the elitist "@$$hats" (seeming the common term) responses/requirements will still be viritually uneffected.

"You're GS is too low, GTFO" --> "You don't have a GS, GTFO"
"Looking for 5k+ GS for 10-man levi, PST" --> "LFM 10-man levi, PST if you have a GS" or simply unchanged "LFM 10-man levi, PST with your GS"

So on and so on....
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so says the 1/2 million downloads per week.......
Impossible statistics = FAIL!! But don't point this out, or your post will be deleted!
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You have to look at their coding more closely.

They have the event "CHAT_MSG_ADDON" registered to catch all incomming GearScore messages.

They then listen to every message, create a random GearScore/iLevel for that incomming message, then re-broadcast it back to everyone in the guild.

This means if I see "BOB" in Dalaran I would sync Bob's data with my guild. GSB would see Bob's data incomming and capture it, change the data, and then rebroadcast it. Everyone else who has GearScore in the guild catches the corrupted data and over-writes the original database entry I just sent them.

This in effect makes it so that nobody in the guild would ever have a correct database entry for any player so long as GSB was active.

The way I blocked it in 3.0.17 is by refusing to accept updated database entries unless that data fits into a specific time frame. SO basically people in my guild would receive the data about Bob from me, then when they get the data from GSB the addon says, Oh, I already have this information a second ago, I don't need to update it again. I also ignore all data older then the current entry, and all data from "the future" as well.

the "--Blocks GearScoreBreaker 1.2b" was a commented change log from 3.0.16 I belive, I didn't add the "Blocks GearScoreBreaker 1.3.0" comment into the file.

I wrote an article about it here: http://gearscoreaddon.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=87
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EDIT: I removed my wall of text... for now until something is answered.

Ok, I found GearScoreBreaker, which after examining the code appears to does what the Mirrikat has "approved" of, simply give a false number to GearScore. However, in GearScore.lua:

Code:
--Blocks GearScoreBreaker 1.2b
and in the recent changelog here:

Code:
3.0.17
Blocks GearScoreBlocker 1.3
Typo or am I not looking at the right addon?

After a search of all the files in GS, I find no instance of GearScoreBlocker. But have found GearScoreBreaker, in which it simply returns the score as "Invalid". I'll admit I haven't followed the full logic (code is a bit of a mess, no offense), but looks harmless so far.

I'm trying to get all angles on this before continuing this argument, but at this point I'm not seeing any "full database destruction" that people have been claiming, just a reply of a random number between 5500 and 6500 sent to GearScore when a request is send via the addon channel, which is supposedly "allowed".

Not throwing accusation at this point. Just looking for clarification.
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so says the 1/2 million downloads per week.......
Impossible statistics = FAIL!! But don't point this out, or your post will be deleted!
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Originally posted by Moleculor
What are these most recent updates doing? The ones with no posted changelog? The glitches that occur with conflicts between this and Elitist Group (that the EG author's doing workarounds for), plus the undocumented changes has made me feel I need to disable GearScore until I know what's going on.
Lol, there are no changes worth noting. I just re-uploaded the addon with BonusScanner having the TOC file changed from 30200 to 30300

As for the claims that GS interferes with Gem information, that doesn't make sense. I don't do anything with interfering with gems. Obtaining gem information is a pain in the rear because of the way Blizzard removed gem info from item links.
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What are these most recent updates doing? The ones with no posted changelog? The glitches that occur with conflicts between this and Elitist Group (that the EG author's doing workarounds for), plus the undocumented changes has made me feel I need to disable GearScore until I know what's going on.
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Spec Specific Scores listed at 0 in item tooltips appear in black text. Against the default black background is impossible to read, prehaps the standard vendor-junk grey would be more appropriate.
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now, back to business...

I don't know if this is in combo with another addon, but I get FPS lag when I mouse over comparing gear, for ex. at a vendor. I think you may be in a tight loop when mouseover of other gear.

edit: here is some further info. the version from 01-13-2010 02:26 AM doesn't do it.
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Originally posted by Morpheusdead
This person is tagged as both a staff member and a mod for the forums, and yet is behaving like a troll and using bad language. A mod is supposed to KEEP the peace, not antagonize or Fan the Flame. I very much think this person should immediately be removed from the staff and moderation priviledges revoked, as they do not show they deserve the power or responsibility they have.


My bad its at curse tg we dont need staffers here like that.
"Like that"? Like what? Oh, he has an opinion and you don't agree, how terrible of him. He makes a good point, the intention of GearScore is very clear. The author could have easily solved this long ago by adding an option to block showing your GearScore. That is a win-win situation, and I have no idea why it hasn't been implemented yet. After all, if players wanted to have access to the option they would have to download GearScore.

The implications of GearScore have been debated many times. People are correct in that the author should not take the blame, but this is only true in the sense if the issue is unpreventable or if he corrects the issue. Neither of those are the case, and that is why people are complaining. He stated that this was not the intent of GearScore, but he is enforcing anyway.

Originally posted by Mirrikat45
That however, is not what GearScoreBreaker is designed to do. Its sole purpose is to harass players and completely corrupt their GearScore database beyond use. This is intentionally malicious behavior and is potentially against the TOS/EULA.
GearScoreBreaker would not even exist if players had an alternative to "GearScore 5k+ only". Especially since you need 5k GearScore for 10 man Flame Leviathan, right?
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Originally posted by ChaosInc
The end results in scrutiny of the target based on someone else's opinion on what is "good" spewed out with a number. If someone wishes to not be judged on that person's opinion (key word here), it should not be forced upon them and have an option to avoid it.

If they take preventative measures to being scored via another addon, I assure you that they know the possible consequences of "deceiving" a the score. If not, then they are naive. But also realize that if their score isn't high enough, the end result could be the same anyways.

But there is this thing called called "player intelligence" that just doesn't calculate well into addons. Believe it or not, some people value this over some number generated based on some guy's opinion of what's "good" and are willing to help them get geared up to replace some other douche who happens to have a 5k+ GS but is dumb as a box of rocks. If a player wishes to be judged on this, they should have the option to avoid being "scored".

Let's face a common agreement here: this addon can make or break groups, even entire guilds. It can make or destroy potentially good players all because of a stupid number. It forces a player to be judged a certain way based on an opinion and gives them no option to avoid it. It is rapidly becoming the driving force of the game, which I find quite pathetic to those who use this number as a sole base to judge a player.

GearScore's intentions are clear: to become the dominate factor in raids and parties. If someone tries to avoid it, then it'll be worked around. The author has made it clear that everyone will stand HIS judgement, whether they like it or not.

Solution is simple. Give players the freedom to not be scored if they so choose. It's their right.

Point made, discussion over. PM me if you wish to continue debating this obvious fact.
This person is tagged as both a staff member and a mod for the forums, and yet is behaving like a troll and using bad language. A mod is supposed to KEEP the peace, not antagonize or Fan the Flame. I very much think this person should immediately be removed from the staff and moderation priviledges revoked, as they do not show they deserve the power or responsibility they have.


My bad its at curse tg we dont need staffers here like that.
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Originally posted by ChaosInc
The end results in scrutiny of the target based on someone else's opinion on what is "good" spewed out with a number. If someone wishes to not be judged on that person's opinion (key word here), it should not be forced upon them and have an option to avoid it.
You are right. And this was done years ago, if i'm not mistaken.
You know this site, right?
However, some judgements more accurate than another.
But they are no more than estimation of a player potential.
It's up to raid leader to judge players he/she invite. If raid leader is a GS-whore, no amount ot arguments could reason him/her.
Heck, what we're talking about? Blizzard added achievements, GS is a thin shade of a runing factor what achievements made to the game world.
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Second This.

Originally posted by Mirrikat45

Finally, I have no problem with an addon that fakes a player's GearScore. That however, is not what GearScoreBreaker is designed to do. Its sole purpose is to harass players and completely corrupt their GearScore database beyond use. This is intentionally malicious behavior and is potentially against the TOS/EULA.
Second this.
If GSB made someones GS 1337 then sure, or 666 maybe, but as said, its intention is to corrupt the database. Block it, the same way they blocked people graffitiing your Gatherer Database some time ago.

If your issue with GearScore is how the COMPLETE A$$HATS on your server use it to filter their raid members then dont take it out on the Author.

There were teething problems early with spamminess, they have been fixed for some time. That is not what GSB is about. To be honest, it looks like it is about Elitist Players wanting to force people to be able to judge and assess all Class/Spec combinations of gear just by looking at them in an Inspect Window. I think the authors of GSB need to get their heads out of their a$$es and actually execute what they say their intent is rather than the vengeful PoS that they have written.
As a Heals Lead I use GearScore as part of my decision making process to assign healing roles in a raid. If I have bad data people will die. If I have to wait until all the healers are in inspect range and manually inspect them and the tanks before I can start to make those decisions then please block GSB.
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