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Elitist Group  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)

Version: v1.7.6
by: Shadowed [More]

Elitist Group's goal is to shift focus away from single scores which don't tell you anything about the users choice of gear. Instead of a single score, Elitist Group shows you a variety of data from the players experience per dungeons and raid (can be broken down by boss), to whether their choice of equipment, enchants or gems fit their spec. You can still see the players average item level as well, but it's not the primary focus and only there to give you an idea of a players gear.

All user data will be compressed on logout to keep the database size more manageable. However, a variety of database management options are included to delete data after a certain period of time, or not save data on people from another server.

Interested in people being able to see your mains experience or request your data, but don't want the entire addon? Take a look at Elitist Group Sender, which does nothing more than respond to experience or data requests.

Slash command: /elitistgroup (/eg) use /eg help for a list of slash commands.

Bugs? Suggestions? Items flagged wrong?
Easiest way to report anything is through the ticket tracker. Should you be reporting an item being flagged incorrectly, make sure you include as much details as to why it's wrong.

How are items categorized?
Based on stats. Spell Power is a caster item, Hit is for DPS, Strength is only for melee dps, Defense for tanks and so on. As you can see in the screenshots, you are given what an items type is. Whether an item is allowed or not is based on spec, meaning Holy Paladins will be flagged for wearing Retribution gear, but a Retribution Paladin will not.

If somebody is missing an enchant or gem, Elitist Group will also tell you that.

Summary
To speed up checking out your raid or dungeon group, you can use /eg summary. It will quickly inspect everyone in your group and give you a summarized report on the status of their gear, enchants and gems.

Player notes
Finished a dungeon, was your tank amazing? Notes will allow you to rate him 1 - 5 and leave a comment for future reference, these can even be synced between your friends or guild. You can leave one note per person, with your most recent note being used. Use /eg rate to open this.

Dungeon experience
Quickly see how much experience a player has in a particular dungeon or raid, broken down by hard modes and even by pass. For raids, players are experienced after roughly 3 clears and for 5 mans it's around 6 (combined runs, not 6 of each). The scoring is setup to reward full clears. That way, somebody who can only clear the first 4 bosses of 25-man Trial of the Grand Crusader will have to do a lot more clears to be considered experienced, compared to the person who can full clear it.

To make it easier on players, achievements are factored into the experienced weighting. For example, A Tribute to Insanity and The Immortal will count for a full clear. Even doing 25-man Uldaur hard mods will increase your 25-man Ulduar normal mode experience.

No reason your alt should be left out of the fun because you haven't done a dungeon on the character yet. As of v1.5, you can setup a character as your main and whenever people request your data in Elitist Group they will see your mains experience. No more being left out because of an inexperienced alt!

Item level
To stop 200 item level blues being worth the same as 200 item level epics, simple modifiers are applied to item level based on quality: -0% epic, -5% blue, -10% green, -40% white, -50% grey. Heirlooms are considered 187 item level blues at 80, or 2.22 item level/per player level.

Suggested dungeons are the lowest item dropped -11% for 5-mans, -10% for normal 10 and 25 mans and a -9% modifier for heroic 10 and 25 mans.

Addon communication
Notes and player data can be synced. Players can request your gear or notes at any time; however, you can disable all communications entirely so you will not send or parse to them. Finer control over what channels to monitor is also included in /eg config, you can set it to not listen for gear requests from party or raid, but still in guild.

While in combat, you will not send or parse comm messages.

To prevent people from corrupting your database, Elitist Group will not accept other players gear data unless the player themselves sent it (Johnny can send his gear data, Steve cannot send Johnny's unless Steve is on your trusted list).

As of v1.5, more complicated syncing has been added to allow you to send your entire user or notes database, see here for information.

Author: Shadowed <shadowed.wow@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Jun 30 22:09:07 2010 -0700
- Fixed the reported message when loading EA

Date: Tue Jun 29 13:15:50 2010 -0700
- Updated to 6 inspects/11 seconds
- Removed debug prints

Date: Mon Jun 28 23:10:07 2010 -0700
- Added throttling for tomorrows restart to inspection, following changes:
- On login (only shown once), a message is displayed explaining the changes, and blaming Gearscore if you see an unexpected amount of inspect throttled messages
- If you use /eg to inspect someone and you are throttled and don't have data, you'll get a message indicating you have X seconds until inspections are enabled
- Group scanning will account for the throttle and wait until more become available
- Added an option in /eg config that lets you "save" a certain number of inspections that the group scanner won't use, so you can still do normal inspections while the scanner runs
- Everything will take other mods inspections into account, in theory.

Date: Thu Jun 24 13:43:34 2010 -0700
- Added Ruby Sanctum info, the suggested numbers will be tweaked most likely, these will only be enabled if you are on 3.3.5
- Fixed leaked globals

Date: Wed Jun 16 20:07:18 2010 -0700
- Fixed invalid pattern match in group and individual player links
- Fixed talent #615 error in ElitistGroup.lua
- Fixed Scarab Broach being listed as dps, should be healer
- Fixed rare case where a cross server sync would show up as coming from your server

Date: Sun May 16 18:29:54 2010 -0700
- Updating localization is also good I suppose
- Fixed a rare error that can occur on inspection if a players talents are loaded incorrectly
- Added support for the group linking features to ElitistArmory

Date: Thu Apr 29 20:15:09 2010 -0700
- Fixed leaked global
- Fixed spaces not being replaced with a %20 for Elitist Armory URLs, was breaking Chatter linkifying
- Merge: 872c02f 3983f90
- Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/elitistgroup/mainline
- Summary inspects now prioritize those without data
- Added the ability to cap experience points from an achievement
- Synced the experience points with http://elitistarmory.com/experience
- Synced item overrides with Elitist Armory

Date: Thu Apr 1 21:46:42 2010 -0700
- Fixed an error when listing items by slot name rather than item name

Date: Mon Mar 22 09:27:03 2010 -0700
- Added an option in /eg config to reset the /eg summary inspect queue, by default this is disabled (It always processes the inspect queue even closed)
- Merge: ee085ef d5d1707
- Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/elitistgroup/mainline

Date: Sun Mar 21 10:09:12 2010 -0700
- Added Last Word override

Date: Fri Feb 26 16:38:27 2010 -0800
- Fixed an error in group_notes.lua:183 if the notes table wasn't created

Date: Thu Feb 25 14:55:20 2010 -0800
- Added an URL button which will let you link to people on ElitistArmory
- Reporting to chat will now mention that people can lookup their character in more detail on ElitistArmory.com
- Added Scourgebane as a Physical DPS enchant

Date: Mon Feb 15 10:06:45 2010 -0800
- Fixed an error if bad data was set in the database

Date: Sat Feb 13 09:32:19 2010 -0800
- Fixed error when somebody has a Shiny Shard of the Flame/Scale and the other version of it

Date: Fri Feb 5 12:51:56 2010 -0800
- Trying a fix if itemQuality returns nothing, although this shouldn't happen

Date: Tue Feb 2 15:56:19 2010 -0800
- Added info on the main/alts feature when showing the welcome to EG message
- Fixed QueueUnit trying to scan the player

Date: Sun Jan 31 09:45:53 2010 -0800
- Fixed error in scan.lua:444 when using group notes
- Moved to a single OnEnter/OnLeave function
- Updating data will reset who scanned it, fixes scanned by data being "stuck" if somebody synced it

Date: Sat Jan 30 23:37:58 2010 -0800
- Added widget builder, might as well given how much custom UI stuff I'm doing
- Exposed talent texts
- Added hook in for Elitist Group Leader if it's loaded to /eg
- Added support for reporting to custom chat channels
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Unread 01-11-10, 03:18 PM  
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I tried reloading and re-installing. I was able to get it to work once but can't get it to work again, its like when i use /eg slash command the enter key doesnt work.

not receiving any errors online but log shoows:

1/11 16:15:15.006 Frame <unnamed>: Unknown function ScriptErrorsFrameButton_OnClick in element OnClick
1/11 16:15:15.006 Frame <unnamed>: Unknown function ScriptErrorsFrameButton_OnClick in element OnClick
1/11 16:15:15.006 Frame FrameStackTooltip: Unknown function DebugTooltip_OnLoad in element OnLoad
1/11 16:15:15.006 Frame FrameStackTooltip: Unknown function FrameStackTooltip_OnShow in element OnShow
1/11 16:15:15.006 Frame FrameStackTooltip: Unknown function FrameStackTooltip_OnEnter in element OnEnter
1/11 16:15:15.006 Frame FrameStackTooltip: Unknown function FrameStackTooltip_OnUpdate in element OnUpdate
1/11 16:15:15.006 Frame EventTraceTooltip: Unknown function DebugTooltip_OnLoad in element OnLoad
1/11 16:15:15.006 Interface\AddOns\Blizzard_DebugTools\Localization.lua:2: chunk has too many syntax levels

thanks
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Originally posted by Carnacki
Ok, thanks for the heads up on that. It'll probably be tomorrow before we raid again so I'll check then and post an update. Its a pity GS doesn't play nice with this - I prefer the holistic view of EG, but lots of people still want to know GS rating.
I would just memorize your Gearscore personally, I think there was an addon that calculated GS in a simple way but I cna't seem to find it.
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Originally posted by Lumberface
What about sp/mp5 (royal dreadstone) do you flag that? It's used by hpala, disc, ele for blue sockets over sp/spi or sp/stam.
No they are not flagged as being bad. The gem checks need to be improved a bit though, so SP/STA is flagged as a PVP gem since people should be using SP/MP5 or SP/SPI.
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Originally posted by Shadowed
Given that Brandyi's Holy spec isn't the same as the one being displayed, I'm almost positive it's Gearscore. Let me know if you still have issues without it enabled.

The problem is basically that Gearscore inspects whenever you mouseover people, so if EG is doing it's summary inspects and you mouseover people it'll mess it up and can corrupt data.
Ok, thanks for the heads up on that. It'll probably be tomorrow before we raid again so I'll check then and post an update. Its a pity GS doesn't play nice with this - I prefer the holistic view of EG, but lots of people still want to know GS rating.
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What about sp/mp5 (royal dreadstone) do you flag that? It's used by hpala, disc, ele for blue sockets over sp/spi or sp/stam.
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Originally posted by Shadowed
tciddados: It's a bug on Blizzards side, not too much I can do about it.
hm, yeah, now that I look at my statistics it does say I've done it once. Oh well, guess stats aren't always accurate.
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Originally posted by Carnacki
The Paladin having problems is Brandyi

Screenshot here.

I edited my original post - for some reason it's flagging Brandy as Holy despite being prot. I'm not sure where that Holy spec is coming from. None of our paladins, brandy included run a 55/16/0 spec.

The screenshot also shows the problem with missing items.

I run Gearscore, and I can try turning that off next time and see whether it makes a difference. Nothing else that seems likely to cause problems (but who knows).
Given that Brandyi's Holy spec isn't the same as the one being displayed, I'm almost positive it's Gearscore. Let me know if you still have issues without it enabled.

The problem is basically that Gearscore inspects whenever you mouseover people, so if EG is doing it's summary inspects and you mouseover people it'll mess it up and can corrupt data.
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Lumberface: The only real gems that are actively restricted are using pure STA (Tank classification) or MP5 (Never classification). Everyone is allowed leeway with gems, Rogues can socket STR/STA or AGI/STA and be fine, but if they socket SP/STA or such they'd be flagged for it.

tciddados: It's a bug on Blizzards side, not too much I can do about it.
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The Paladin having problems is Brandyi

Screenshot here.

I edited my original post - for some reason it's flagging Brandy as Holy despite being prot. I'm not sure where that Holy spec is coming from. None of our paladins, brandy included run a 55/16/0 spec.

The screenshot also shows the problem with missing items.

I run Gearscore, and I can try turning that off next time and see whether it makes a difference. Nothing else that seems likely to cause problems (but who knows).
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Originally posted by Shadowed

Lumberface: Some sort of threshold for healers is planned, but right now it's going to flag someone as being off in an item.
Thanks for the info, sounds like a good solution.

Maybe some sort of middle-ground especially on gems might be useful. For example activating metas you might need to slot some non-optimal gem, so maybe giving a DPS caster pass if they have 2 blue gems that are not the best (for CSD), but having 3 would flag them? I guess it's probably a fringe case though and a bit complex to code.


And also thanks for the community feedback you're giving. I read through the comments & the mmochamp thread, it's good to see a mod dev actively discussing the mod and fixing & changing things in a timely fashion.
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a bug: in my raid experience it says
[1] Completed Trial of the Grand Crusader
when in fact I have never killed Anub in 10man ToGC, though I have been close.
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Carnacki: Can you link me his armory and a screenshot of the /eg frame? There's definitely no reason that should be happening.

Are you using an addon like Gearscore, or addons that shows talents on unit frames or tooltips? Right now those can cause conflicts.

Seyss: Not planning on doing that, there are plenty of addons that already show you item level. If you want that I'd use one of them.
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We have two paladin tanks and I'm constantly seeing our 2nd Paladin tank flagged with bad gear (17 items ) but when I mouse over that the tooltip shows 17 tank items. He's prot specced, flagged as a MT using the blizzard interface but still coming up as bad items. Am I missing something, do I need to manually set him as a tank in EG? The other Paladin tank shows up just fine. This is in raid btw.

Edit: Just noticed on the screenie I took of this that EG has the paladin in question flagged as holy, but he was definitely prot.

Also I often see blank or missing items with a tooltip "No item equipped". I'll be standing next to the person and I can see the items if I inspect them so it's not like they're not wearing something. Also EG shows them with a proper average ilevel of gear and in the raid summary it shows them with bad/pass whatever so that seems to pick up the gear ok.

If its any help I can post a screenshot and/or the saved variables when it happens.

Other than the couple minor quirks it seems pretty good.
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Hey can you create a stripped version of this addon just to display the average item level of the inspected's character?

Use the default's inspection window, just add anywhere free something like:

Avg itemlvl: 226.

Thank you
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Game Menu -> Interface -> Help -> Enable Lua Errors


Reload too, it might just be an issue that you have to reload to set a profile (which would get fixed).
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