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Elitist Group  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)
Version: v1.7.6
by: Shadowed [More]
Elitist Group's goal is to shift focus away from single scores which don't tell you anything about the users choice of gear. Instead of a single score, Elitist Group shows you a variety of data from the players experience per dungeons and raid (can be broken down by boss), to whether their choice of equipment, enchants or gems fit their spec. You can still see the players average item level as well, but it's not the primary focus and only there to give you an idea of a players gear.

All user data will be compressed on logout to keep the database size more manageable. However, a variety of database management options are included to delete data after a certain period of time, or not save data on people from another server.

Interested in people being able to see your mains experience or request your data, but don't want the entire addon? Take a look at Elitist Group Sender, which does nothing more than respond to experience or data requests.

Slash command: /elitistgroup (/eg) use /eg help for a list of slash commands.

Bugs? Suggestions? Items flagged wrong?
Easiest way to report anything is through the ticket tracker. Should you be reporting an item being flagged incorrectly, make sure you include as much details as to why it's wrong.

How are items categorized?
Based on stats. Spell Power is a caster item, Hit is for DPS, Strength is only for melee dps, Defense for tanks and so on. As you can see in the screenshots, you are given what an items type is. Whether an item is allowed or not is based on spec, meaning Holy Paladins will be flagged for wearing Retribution gear, but a Retribution Paladin will not.

If somebody is missing an enchant or gem, Elitist Group will also tell you that.

Summary
To speed up checking out your raid or dungeon group, you can use /eg summary. It will quickly inspect everyone in your group and give you a summarized report on the status of their gear, enchants and gems.

Player notes
Finished a dungeon, was your tank amazing? Notes will allow you to rate him 1 - 5 and leave a comment for future reference, these can even be synced between your friends or guild. You can leave one note per person, with your most recent note being used. Use /eg rate to open this.

Dungeon experience
Quickly see how much experience a player has in a particular dungeon or raid, broken down by hard modes and even by pass. For raids, players are experienced after roughly 3 clears and for 5 mans it's around 6 (combined runs, not 6 of each). The scoring is setup to reward full clears. That way, somebody who can only clear the first 4 bosses of 25-man Trial of the Grand Crusader will have to do a lot more clears to be considered experienced, compared to the person who can full clear it.

To make it easier on players, achievements are factored into the experienced weighting. For example, A Tribute to Insanity and The Immortal will count for a full clear. Even doing 25-man Uldaur hard mods will increase your 25-man Ulduar normal mode experience.

No reason your alt should be left out of the fun because you haven't done a dungeon on the character yet. As of v1.5, you can setup a character as your main and whenever people request your data in Elitist Group they will see your mains experience. No more being left out because of an inexperienced alt!

Item level
To stop 200 item level blues being worth the same as 200 item level epics, simple modifiers are applied to item level based on quality: -0% epic, -5% blue, -10% green, -40% white, -50% grey. Heirlooms are considered 187 item level blues at 80, or 2.22 item level/per player level.

Suggested dungeons are the lowest item dropped -11% for 5-mans, -10% for normal 10 and 25 mans and a -9% modifier for heroic 10 and 25 mans.

Addon communication
Notes and player data can be synced. Players can request your gear or notes at any time; however, you can disable all communications entirely so you will not send or parse to them. Finer control over what channels to monitor is also included in /eg config, you can set it to not listen for gear requests from party or raid, but still in guild.

While in combat, you will not send or parse comm messages.

To prevent people from corrupting your database, Elitist Group will not accept other players gear data unless the player themselves sent it (Johnny can send his gear data, Steve cannot send Johnny's unless Steve is on your trusted list).

As of v1.5, more complicated syncing has been added to allow you to send your entire user or notes database, see here for information.
Author: Shadowed <shadowed.wow@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Jun 30 22:09:07 2010 -0700
- Fixed the reported message when loading EA

Date: Tue Jun 29 13:15:50 2010 -0700
- Updated to 6 inspects/11 seconds
- Removed debug prints

Date: Mon Jun 28 23:10:07 2010 -0700
- Added throttling for tomorrows restart to inspection, following changes:
- On login (only shown once), a message is displayed explaining the changes, and blaming Gearscore if you see an unexpected amount of inspect throttled messages
- If you use /eg to inspect someone and you are throttled and don't have data, you'll get a message indicating you have X seconds until inspections are enabled
- Group scanning will account for the throttle and wait until more become available
- Added an option in /eg config that lets you "save" a certain number of inspections that the group scanner won't use, so you can still do normal inspections while the scanner runs
- Everything will take other mods inspections into account, in theory.

Date: Thu Jun 24 13:43:34 2010 -0700
- Added Ruby Sanctum info, the suggested numbers will be tweaked most likely, these will only be enabled if you are on 3.3.5
- Fixed leaked globals

Date: Wed Jun 16 20:07:18 2010 -0700
- Fixed invalid pattern match in group and individual player links
- Fixed talent #615 error in ElitistGroup.lua
- Fixed Scarab Broach being listed as dps, should be healer
- Fixed rare case where a cross server sync would show up as coming from your server

Date: Sun May 16 18:29:54 2010 -0700
- Updating localization is also good I suppose
- Fixed a rare error that can occur on inspection if a players talents are loaded incorrectly
- Added support for the group linking features to ElitistArmory

Date: Thu Apr 29 20:15:09 2010 -0700
- Fixed leaked global
- Fixed spaces not being replaced with a %20 for Elitist Armory URLs, was breaking Chatter linkifying
- Merge: 872c02f 3983f90
- Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/elitistgroup/mainline
- Summary inspects now prioritize those without data
- Added the ability to cap experience points from an achievement
- Synced the experience points with http://elitistarmory.com/experience
- Synced item overrides with Elitist Armory

Date: Thu Apr 1 21:46:42 2010 -0700
- Fixed an error when listing items by slot name rather than item name

Date: Mon Mar 22 09:27:03 2010 -0700
- Added an option in /eg config to reset the /eg summary inspect queue, by default this is disabled (It always processes the inspect queue even closed)
- Merge: ee085ef d5d1707
- Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/elitistgroup/mainline

Date: Sun Mar 21 10:09:12 2010 -0700
- Added Last Word override

Date: Fri Feb 26 16:38:27 2010 -0800
- Fixed an error in group_notes.lua:183 if the notes table wasn't created

Date: Thu Feb 25 14:55:20 2010 -0800
- Added an URL button which will let you link to people on ElitistArmory
- Reporting to chat will now mention that people can lookup their character in more detail on ElitistArmory.com
- Added Scourgebane as a Physical DPS enchant

Date: Mon Feb 15 10:06:45 2010 -0800
- Fixed an error if bad data was set in the database

Date: Sat Feb 13 09:32:19 2010 -0800
- Fixed error when somebody has a Shiny Shard of the Flame/Scale and the other version of it

Date: Fri Feb 5 12:51:56 2010 -0800
- Trying a fix if itemQuality returns nothing, although this shouldn't happen

Date: Tue Feb 2 15:56:19 2010 -0800
- Added info on the main/alts feature when showing the welcome to EG message
- Fixed QueueUnit trying to scan the player

Date: Sun Jan 31 09:45:53 2010 -0800
- Fixed error in scan.lua:444 when using group notes
- Moved to a single OnEnter/OnLeave function
- Updating data will reset who scanned it, fixes scanned by data being "stuck" if somebody synced it

Date: Sat Jan 30 23:37:58 2010 -0800
- Added widget builder, might as well given how much custom UI stuff I'm doing
- Exposed talent texts
- Added hook in for Elitist Group Leader if it's loaded to /eg
- Added support for reporting to custom chat channels
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Unread 02-19-10, 09:58 AM  
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Awesome addon

First, thank you forthis addon. I love this thing.

My only complaint is the rating screen... can you make the roles icons BIGGER and make them more noticeable when I click on TANK/DPS/Healer? Its so small, I cant really see whether I have specified the right role for someone.

Thanks!
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/eg <name> will pull up data for a single person, you can't stop the summary scan.
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Unread 02-17-10, 03:27 PM  
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Is there a way to pull up EG on one person in your raid? /eg summary takes a while to (slowly) process in 25 mans for me, but it's the only way I know of to get info for one person. I only ask because I've just had what would have probably been a decent PUG fall apart while the summary was putting a report together.

Also, is there a way to stop the summary after it's been started?
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I finally enabled this on my main (feral dps druid) and noticed it marked my weapon enchant as "always bad". I'm using Enchant 2H Weapon - Scourgebane as it's arguably the best enchant for ICC since the change to the proc mechanics nerfed Berserking for ferals. Given the options of 110 AP vs. 140 AP to Undead and given that nearly everything in ICC is Undead -- the choice is clear .

I'm not sure how you'd implement that, though; but, nonetheless "always bad" isn't really accurate.

EDIT: To add a bit more information to this, the contention of whether or not Scourgebane is better than Massacre lies in the question of whether or not the creature-type-specific attack power is modified by the Druid talents Predatory Strikes and Heart of the Wild. The relevant portions are:

Predatory Strikes
Increases your melee attack power in Cat, Bear and Dire Bear Forms by 150% of your level and 20% of any attack power on your equipped weapon.
Heart of the Wild
In addition, while in Bear or Dire Bear Form your Stamina is increased by 10% and while in Cat Form your attack power is increased by 10%.
Massacre is proven to be multiplied by both increases of attack power. It's a bit harder to test Scourgebane. So, the values work out to:

Massacre (base): 110
Massacre (+PS&HotW): 145.2
Scourgebane (base): 140
Scourgebane (+PS&HotW): 184.8

Obviously if it's not modified, it's worse. Given that information, testing has recently been updated on EJ and it seems that the Undead AP is properly modified by those talents making it far-and-away the best Feral DPS enchant.

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EDIT 2: Made a ticket.
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Originally posted by Shadowed
Limb0: I'll think about it, but the UI is already showing a lot so it won't likely happen.
Understandable, though I'd argue that knowing a toon's guild is more important than the server (well at least for single server players who are not collecting cross realm information). Maybe it could be an option, ie view guild instead of server. If such details were enabled, then I would next ask for a sort by guild function.

So much info packed into this already, I don't know how you do it.. graphically I would like to see it look more modern, ie Skillet. Maybe I'll check out Skinner to not bog you down with trivialities.
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Limb0: I'll think about it, but the UI is already showing a lot so it won't likely happen.

huldu: Thanks!

1) You mean the summary window, or the rating window? Not a bad idea, can you file a ticket at http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroup/ so I don't forget.
2) That's mostly be choice. Below 80 it doesn't matter as much, and it's a lot harder to do things like identify a Death Knight or Druid tank. It's mostly just too much work to make it perfect for <80.
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This idea of this addon is great. The big problem for me is that barely anyone ive run with has this installed. Would be nice if the addon could give you a headsup if someone in the group is running EG as well. I havent used this addon in a few weeks so a few things might have got updated since last time.

The reasons i stopped using the addon was:
1) The huge blob that pops up once a dungeon is finished. Would have been nice if it was like a small popup like when blizz gm contacts you. Clicking on this notification would enlarge the window. Of course this might have been changed since i last used the addon.
2) Its only helpful at 80, its pretty useless at levels below that which is a shame.

As i write this i am dl'ing and installing the addon again. Will see if stuff have changed. Like i said the idea behind this addon is great. Just a shame too few people are using it.
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Originally posted by Shadowed
It does not.
Noted. I would like to put Guild tracking as a request/suggestion. InventoryOnPar has this information, but no longer has the raid experience information -the two main features that I refer to. Those along with your gemming and class appropriateness would be the complete package.
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It does not.
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I'm curious, and forgive me if I overlooked this, but does this record a scanned player's guild?
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doing /eg summary in a BG or WG should give check marks to PVP gear imo
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It was changed, the gear tab is the new display method.
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This addon when first installed used to show like a character window on the left to Suggested Dungeons, but since an update its gone.

Did you change it to not display it.

Before I only had Experience / Notes tab but now I have a Gear tab instead of the window with each slot like when you press C
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It's amusing that you keep trying to slight the addon, or you think that by saying you'll also uninstall SUF you're somehow "sticking it to me", but it doesn't help your argument at all.

How flaggings get changed are simple and nothing I've hidden. Give me good logic and theorycrafting pointing out why the flaggings are wrong, and it'll get changed. Sometimes people are wrong because they didn't know a better solution existed, and when they are I can point out as such. As far as I can recall, everyone who has fulfilled the request has gotten a flagging changed.

You provided no argument beyond "Because I can do it, it's fine." Which isn't a valid argument, most of the content in the game is easy. Especially 5-mans, except for HoR and PoS. Never once in your post did you explain how 5% mitigation was worst than 10% armor or 5% dodge. A first tier talent too, so very easy to get.

But anyway, stop trying to turn this into an argument of casual vs hardcore. Just because somebody plays casually doesn't mean they get a free pass to do whatever they want.

How much you can get away with depends on the situation and the rest of your group. I've failed on some raids with everyone in equal gear, and have had a Hunter in greens/blues carried through Ulduar 10 drake run. Just because you can get away with a suboptimal group does not mean everyone can. If you're doing easy content that let's you get away with a suboptimal group, then be selective on what you listen to in Elitist Group.

I provide the tool that provides information, you decide how you use the information.
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Originally posted by Shadowed
The majority of the content in the game is easy, you can get with suboptimal specs, gear or enchants. Just because you can do something does not mean you are doing it right.

Experience is irrelevant, I can tank heroics in DPS gear, it's just going to be slower. That doesn't mean it's fine to tank in DPS gear all the time. You can disagree with Darkside all you want, but if all you have is essentially anecdotal evidence, you aren't going to be convincing.
I'd liked this addon because despite the name, it wasn't elitist. It enabled me, at a quick glance, to get a rough idea of what to expect in dungeons (because I never have and never will use it in raids). I've defended the usage of this addon (as you are well aware) in several settings because I didn't believe it was a knock on casuals...

...and with one comment thread here, you prove me completely wrong.

I'd say I was sorry for requesting something that would have enabled the casual user to see that their tank was really a tank, but this experience has proved to be an eyeopener for me, and I'm sure several others.

So much for ironic addon name - it really isn't the least bit ironic anymore.
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