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Raven

Major Features

1) Customizable timer bar and icon configurations to monitor buffs, debuffs and cooldowns
2) Multi-target HoT and DoT tracking bars
3) Timelines to show buff, debuff and cooldown icons sliding along a bar
4) Comprehensive condition checking to support buffing/debuffing, spell rotations, etc.
5) Highlights for active spells plus cooldown counters on popular action bar addon buttons
6) Preset spell colors and cooldowns plus buff-related conditions for each class

Project page: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/raven
Offical forum thread: http://forums.curseforge.com/showthread.php?t=18429
FAQ: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/raven/pages/faq
Localizations: Chinese (zhCN and zhTW) by surgesoft and Alice, Korean (koKR) by rhinomans

Installation and Configuration

Install Raven by copying its files into your WoW addons folder (or use your favorite addons update utility). Optional additional Raven-compatible modules can be installed to add support for spell rotations used by specific classes.

You can bring up a configuration panel by typing in "/raven" or clicking on Raven's minimap button. Raven also includes a Data Broker launcher that can be displayed by addons like ChocolateBar.

Raven includes detailed tooltips for most options in the configuration panel.

Getting Started

The quickest way to get started with Raven is to use the standard bar groups on the Setup tab of the configuration panel. Standard bar groups include (1) all player buffs, (2) short player buffs (lasting less than 2 minutes), (3) long player buffs (lasting at least 2 minutes, such as Mark of the Wild, Blessing of Kings, and other "raid" buffs), (4) debuffs on the player, (5) cooldowns on player spells and equipped trinkets, (6) buffs/debuffs cast by the player on the target, (7) buffs/debuffs cast by the player on the focus, (8) rune cooldowns (Death Knights only), and (9) notifications for conditions relevant to your class (e.g., missing poisons on rogue weapons). Select the standard bar groups you want (hint: you probably don't want all the player buff bar groups since that will result in duplicates) and click either the Create As Bars or Create As Icons button. This will create an anchor for each selected bar group near the center of your display that you can move by clicking and dragging.

When you mouse over an anchor you'll see a tooltip with shortcuts for changing the bar group's configuration and for showing test bars. You can lock and unlock the bar group anchors using buttons on the configuration panel Setup tab (locked anchors are hidden, unlocked anchors are visible). The Defaults tab lets you change the appearance of your bars with configuration options for bar dimensions, fonts and textures.

Using Bar Groups

Once you set up standard bar groups, timer bars or icons will be displayed for buffs, debuffs and cooldowns and, if you set up the Notifications group, warning bars or icons will be displayed for missing buffs and cleansable debuffs. Bars will be in a variety of colors since Raven includes preset colors for many class-specific spells to help distinguish them (with the exception of Long Buffs that are class-colored by default).

After using Raven a while, you will probably want to make some adjustments. Perhaps you don't like the default colors of the bars or you want to switch between bars and icons. Or maybe you want a dedicated bar group for the procs and cooldowns you monitor closely during combat.

At this point, it is necessary to understand that there are two types of bar groups: auto bar groups and custom bar groups. Auto bar groups are used to automatically display bars for buffs, debuffs and cooldowns. Most of the standard bar groups (all except Notifications) are pre-configured auto bar groups. Custom bar groups allow you to manually configure bars for a mix of buffs, debuffs, cooldowns and notifications. Typically, custom bar groups are used to present spell rotations and buff/cleansing reminders.

Auto Bar Groups

Open the configuration panel and click on the Bar Groups tab. Using the pull-down menu near the top, select any existing standard bar group (except Notifications) or create a new auto bar group by clicking on the New Auto Group button. A second set of tabs appears that lets you configure the selected bar group.

You use the Buffs, Debuffs, and Cooldowns tabs to specify what kinds of bars to display (and which ones to filter out). These tabs lets you control how the bar group is populated as new buffs, debuffs and cooldowns are detected. For buffs and debuffs, you specify who the action must be on and who it must be cast by. For cooldowns, you specify what kinds of cooldowns to detect. When new buffs, debuffs and cooldowns are detected that match the criteria, bars for them are automatically displayed.

Auto bar groups have filter lists to let you suppress showing unwanted bars. Both black lists (i.e., don't show if on the list) and white lists (i.e., only show if on the list) are supported. You can manage filter lists on the Buff, Debuff and Cooldown tabs.

Custom Bar Groups

While the standard bar groups provide an easy way to get started, you might also want to set up bar groups that contain just the bars you care about during combat. For example, to support your feral druid's DPS rotation you might want bars for the Savage Roar buff on the player, Mangle, Rake and Rip debuffs on the target, and Tiger's Fury and Berserk cooldowns.

To create a new custom bar group, open the Raven configuration panel, select the Bar Groups tab, then click on New Custom Group and enter a name (e.g., "Combat Bars"). This will bring up a new, empty bar group. To add bars, select the Custom Bars tab and click the New button.

When you click the New button, the configuration panel is put into bar creation mode (you won't be able to access other options until you click either Okay or Cancel at the bottom of the scrollable options). Select a bar type (e.g., buff, debuff, cooldown) and then appropriate options. For example, when you select Buff, you can then select the source of actions (i.e., class, pet, racial, other) and you are presented with a list of available buff actions (or, in the case of "other", a text entry box for entering a spell name). Select actions within that list that you want bars for (All On and All Off buttons are provided for convenience). Pay particular attention to correctly setting who the action is on and who it is cast by. Click Okay to finishing adding the bars (they are now included in the list of bars and can be customized by clicking on them and setting their associated options). You can repeat the bar creation process by clicking New again to add any mix of bar types.

The Custom Bars tab also lets you make changes to bars after they have been added. Select any individual bar to bring up configuration options that let you adjust its color, label text, special effects, and other properties. You can toggle enable to disable the bar.

More Customization

You can further customize bar groups using configuration settings in the General, Layout, Appearance, and Timer Options tabs. The following is a brief description of what each tab supports (mouse over options for explanatory tooltips).

The General tab provides options to enable/disable the entire bar group, rename the bar group, specify how bars are sorted, conditionally show/hide the bar group, and adjust settings for mouse clicks, tooltips, and special effects (e.g., pulsing icons, flashing on expiration).

The Layout and Appearance tabs let you modify the look of the selected bar group. You can adjust the bar group's configuration and the direction that bars grow from the anchor. You can select alternate coloring schemes. You can adjust dimensions, fonts and textures (after overriding defaults set on the Defaults tab). You can turn on and off particular characteristics (icon, colored bar, spark, label, etc.) and change their relative positions. If you prefer icon-based interfaces, Raven includes configurations featuring large icons with optional mini-bars. You can also attach bar groups to each other to facilitate alignment (including the ability to attach to a bar group's last bar so a stack of bar groups can expand and shrink as needed). Play around some and check out the range of possible designs (hint: you can shift-left-click on a bar group anchor to show test bars).

The Timer Options tab lets you adjust settings related to bar duration and time left. You can set all bars in a group to have a uniform duration (this makes it easy to compare how much time is left on bars with similar, but slightly different, durations). You can specify whether to show bars with unlimited duration (e.g., paladin auras). You can filter bars based on their durations and amount of time left (this is how the standard bar groups separate short buffs from long buffs).

Bar groups can have background panels and borders. Set them up in the Defaults tab to show them for all bar groups or in the Appearance tab for individual bar groups. You can enable a background panel with texture, color, and size (size is specified as padding in pixels from the bar group's bars and icons). You can enable a background border separately with a border design, color, edge size, and inset (inset helps merge panel and border correctly).

Multi-Target Buff and Debuff Tracking

Raven includes multi-target buff and debuff tracking similar to other DoT and HoT timer addons. The Setup tab now includes Buff Tracker and Debuff Tracker standard bar groups. These bar groups will group timer bars for buffs or debuffs that you cast on each target and, by default, will show a header with the target name above its associated timer bars. Optionally, you can include the target name in the timer bar labels instead of showing headers (set Hide Headers on the General tab for the bar group). Use black list and white list filtering capabilities in these bar groups to customize them (e.g., you can make a Beacon of Light tracker by creating a HoT timer bar group with only that spell in its white list). You might want to stick with bar-oriented configurations for these since the headers (which include raid target icons and indicate current target, focus or mouseover unit) are currently designed to work best as bars.

Conditions

Raven monitors a variety of events during play and can display notifications when certain conditions are met. While somewhat complex to set up, conditions are quite powerful and can help with spell rotations, decursing, etc. Raven includes default conditions for each class for basics like making sure you have class-specific buffs during combat.

Conditions can be used in Raven to trigger notifications and to control whether or not bar groups are visible. Generally speaking, once you set up a condition you will want to set up a notification bar to show you when the condition is true. When you configure the Notifications standard bar group on the Setup tab, you automatically get notifications for your configured conditions.

Conditions are configured in Raven under the Conditions tab. To get a feel for setting up conditions, take a minute to look at the default conditions for your class. Select one of the conditions using the pull-down menu near the top. A second set of two tabs (General, Tests) appears with options for configuring the selected condition.

The Tests tab has a summary of settings at the top and a list of available tests below. There are tests for checking status of the player, target and focus, tests for checking for combinations of buffs and defuffs, and tests for checking if spells or items are ready to be used. Selecting a test brings up options specific to that test. For example, the Player Status test lets you check if you are in combat, resting, have more than a certain percentage of your health, how many combo points you have, etc.

All the tests you enable must be true for the overall condition to evaluate to true (the summary at the top is intended to help visualize how the tests combine). You can also add dependencies between conditions that can be helpful for factoring out common tests (e.g., a condition to see if you are in cat form and in combat might be a dependency for other conditions defining a druid's feral spell rotation).

The General tab for each condition allows you to enable/disable the condition and specify if the condition is suitable for triggering a notification. You can also associate a spell with a condition (the spell's icon and color are used to customize notifications based on the condition).

Cancelling Buffs

Raven includes support for cancelling buffs. When out of combat, you simply right-click the icon on any player buff bar to cancel the buff (this works for shaman weapon enchants and rogue poisons too). For cancelling buffs in combat, Raven includes an "in-combat" bar that you set up while out of combat with a list of player buffs that you want to be able to cancel in combat (you may need to do reload the UI after setting up the "in-combat" bar before using the buttons). When one of these buffs becomes active in combat, its icon pulses into place on the "in-combat" bar and you can right-click it to cancel the buff.

Class-Specific Modules

Raven includes special bar groups for Death Knight and Shaman classes. These show up as the Runes and Totems standard bar groups on the Setup tab. The Runes bar group replaces the Blizzard runes default UI and displays cooldown timer bars for all your runes. The Totems bar group tracks currently active totems and show a placeholder ready bar for each empty totem slot. You can right-click on a totem icon to destroy a totem. You can disable the placeholder bars by turning off Show If Unlimited Duration.

Raven supports optional modules that add spell rotation notifications for particular classes/specs (e.g., feral druid, survival hunter, destruction warlock). They contain conditions that prioritize spell selection based on current player and target status plus resource availabilty (combo points, energy, etc.). These modules are separate addons and distributed/enabled separately.

Since Raven allows anyone to create, view and edit conditions, you can see exactly how a module supports a spell rotation and customize it to your own preferences. Note, however, that spell rotations are often optimized for boss fights and may not be suitable for all circumstances. It is important to understand your class well enough to know when it is appropriate to follow spell rotation notifications and when to ignore them. Similarly, module writers should try to take into consideration a variety of scenarios (boss fights, trash pulls, questing) when designing spell rotations.

Highlights

If you are using Bartender4, Dominos or Macaroon then Raven can add overlays to buttons to show which of your spells are active and which are on cooldown. Raven is already tracking your buffs, debuffs and cooldowns so it does this with minimal added resources. You can customize (or disable) this feature in the configuration panel Highlights tab. Active spell highlights are color-coded to indicate if on player, target or focus. If ButtonFacade is loaded then Raven can use it for color highlighting. However, since this does not work well with all skins, ButtonFacade support is disabled by default. Cooldown counters are shown by default unless OmniCC is installed.

Multiple Characters

Raven is designed to simplify configuration across multiple characters. This is required because each class may make quite different use of timer bars (e.g., some depend on tracking cooldowns while others watch for debuffs to expire on the target). In the Profiles tab, Raven includes the profile options common to Ace3-based addons and, by default, creates a new profile for each character.

In addition to using profiles, Raven shares a variety of settings across characters. This can result in some confusion since it works differently than in other addons (but can simplify configuring Raven if you play several different classes). First, the appearance options on the Defaults tab (dimensions, fonts, textures) apply to all profiles (they can be overridden as needed in any bar group, of course). Second, almost all bar group settings (the primary exception being the actual bars associated with custom groups) are linked between bar groups of the same name in all profiles that have Link Settings enabled (note that Link Settings is no longer enabled by default for standard bar groups on the Setup tab). Third, filter lists are linked by default between auto bar groups of the same name in all profiles, simplifying dealing with unwanted buff, debuff and cooldown bars. Fourth, all settings related to button highlights are shared across characters.

Final Words

I hope you enjoy using Raven for all your buff, debuff and cooldown needs! Questions and comments are always welcome.
r317 | tomber | 2013-11-11 05:51:26 +0000 (Mon, 11 Nov 2013) | 3 lines
Changed paths:
M /trunk/Main.lua
M /trunk/Nest.lua

Fix issue with hiding some UI elements when entering pet battles.
Add extra check to pixel perfect alignment code to address obscure Lua error (i.e., root cause not clear but this should fix the symptom).
Generate wild mushroom buff for resto and balance druids including count and remaining time (when count > 1 for balance druids then remaining time is for longest duration wild mushroom).
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Hi, when I have the consolidated buffs icon set to be on with raven, it doesn't seem to update when my buffs change. Is there something I need to set so it will update itself or is this a bug?
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Originally Posted by bOOURNS
Well for 4 days prior to posting the error on here it was every night i would get it. Now however i did a few bg's and not a single error yet /sigh lol.(figures!!) The only difference is today i queued solo instead of with a few friends. So i am baffled. I will post any taintlogs if i see it again.

Also i checked the Attachment options and all my bar groups are blank for the attachments.
Queuing with friend could make a difference, I suppose, because of how Blizzard switches between party and raid UI. However, my fingers are crossed that one of Blizzard's recent hotfixes took care of it. Thank you for the update!
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Originally Posted by Tojaso
Originally Posted by bOOURNS
I'm getting some errors while in raids or bg's not sure if it's 100% tied to raven though.

2x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "Raven" tried to call the protected function "ArenaEnemyFrames:ClearAllPoints()".
!BugGrabber-r188\BugGrabber.lua:587: in function <!BugGrabber\BugGrabber.lua:587>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2119: in function "UIParentManageFramePositions"
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1478: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1465>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2156: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2154>
<in C code>
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:62: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_UnloadTextures"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:11: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_SetUpVehicle"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:96: in function <FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:93>

Locals:
nil
...
This error is being triggered within Blizzard's UI code, specifically the code that adjusts positions of arena-related frames such as might show up in PvP situations. The ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED event results from detected "taint" in the way Blizzard enforces secure actions. Do you have the taintlog enabled? It can be helpful in these situations: just type in "/console taintLog 1" and the next time you restart taint errors show up in a taint.log file in a Logs folder in your WoW folder.

Now, Blizzard is not completely accurate in pointing the finger as which addon is responsible with those action blocked errors. There is one case that could relate to Raven which you can check. See if any of your bar groups use the Attachment options on the Layout tab, specifically setting the Parent Frame to anything. This option could potentially cause issues if you attach to a secure frame.

Also, I wonder if you'd be willing to do a few runs with Raven alternately enabled and disabled just to be sure that the error doesn't happen unless Raven is running.

Thank you for error report. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this (or at least rule out Raven).
Well for 4 days prior to posting the error on here it was every night i would get it. Now however i did a few bg's and not a single error yet /sigh lol.(figures!!) The only difference is today i queued solo instead of with a few friends. So i am baffled. I will post any taintlogs if i see it again.

Also i checked the Attachment options and all my bar groups are blank for the attachments.
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Originally Posted by Lovestar
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I am looking into this... Should be possible without a ton of work.

Update: This will be included in the next release.
Awesome, thank you. ^^

Another minor thing with the Monk presets "Mana Tea" has no Cooldown listing. By default the spell has no CD / channeled, but when glyphed it has a 10 second cooldown / instant cast.

The baseline, channeled version is "Mana Tea", SpellID 115294.
The glyphed instant / cooldown version is "Mana Tea", SpellID 123761.

Also, for preset Buffs "Retreat", SpellID 124968, the Fade analogue gained from glyphing Roll to reduce threat.
Thanks again. Retreat buff and Mana Tea cooldown will be included in the next build.
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Originally Posted by bOOURNS
I'm getting some errors while in raids or bg's not sure if it's 100% tied to raven though.

2x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "Raven" tried to call the protected function "ArenaEnemyFrames:ClearAllPoints()".
!BugGrabber-r188\BugGrabber.lua:587: in function <!BugGrabber\BugGrabber.lua:587>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2119: in function "UIParentManageFramePositions"
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1478: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1465>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2156: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2154>
<in C code>
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:62: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_UnloadTextures"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:11: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_SetUpVehicle"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:96: in function <FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:93>

Locals:
nil
...
This error is being triggered within Blizzard's UI code, specifically the code that adjusts positions of arena-related frames such as might show up in PvP situations. The ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED event results from detected "taint" in the way Blizzard enforces secure actions. Do you have the taintlog enabled? It can be helpful in these situations: just type in "/console taintLog 1" and the next time you restart taint errors show up in a taint.log file in a Logs folder in your WoW folder.

Now, Blizzard is not completely accurate in pointing the finger as which addon is responsible with those action blocked errors. There is one case that could relate to Raven which you can check. See if any of your bar groups use the Attachment options on the Layout tab, specifically setting the Parent Frame to anything. This option could potentially cause issues if you attach to a secure frame.

Also, I wonder if you'd be willing to do a few runs with Raven alternately enabled and disabled just to be sure that the error doesn't happen unless Raven is running.

Thank you for error report. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this (or at least rule out Raven).
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Originally Posted by Tojaso
I am looking into this... Should be possible without a ton of work.

Update: This will be included in the next release.
Awesome, thank you. ^^

Another minor thing with the Monk presets "Mana Tea" has no Cooldown listing. By default the spell has no CD / channeled, but when glyphed it has a 10 second cooldown / instant cast.

The baseline, channeled version is "Mana Tea", SpellID 115294.
The glyphed instant / cooldown version is "Mana Tea", SpellID 123761.

Also, for preset Buffs "Retreat", SpellID 124968, the Fade analogue gained from glyphing Roll to reduce threat.
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I'm getting some errors while in raids or bg's not sure if it's 100% tied to raven though.

2x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "Raven" tried to call the protected function "ArenaEnemyFrames:ClearAllPoints()".
!BugGrabber-r188\BugGrabber.lua:587: in function <!BugGrabber\BugGrabber.lua:587>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2119: in function "UIParentManageFramePositions"
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1478: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1465>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2156: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2154>
<in C code>
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:62: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_UnloadTextures"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:11: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_SetUpVehicle"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:96: in function <FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:93>

Locals:
nil


2x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "Raven" tried to call the protected function "ArenaEnemyFrames:SetPoint()".
!BugGrabber-r188\BugGrabber.lua:587: in function <!BugGrabber\BugGrabber.lua:587>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2120: in function "UIParentManageFramePositions"
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1478: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1465>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2156: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2154>
<in C code>
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:62: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_UnloadTextures"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:11: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_SetUpVehicle"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:96: in function <FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:93>

Locals:
nil


2x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "Raven" tried to call the protected function "ArenaPrepFrames:ClearAllPoints()".
!BugGrabber-r188\BugGrabber.lua:587: in function <!BugGrabber\BugGrabber.lua:587>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2124: in function "UIParentManageFramePositions"
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1478: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1465>
<in C code>
FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2156: in function <FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2154>
<in C code>
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:62: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_UnloadTextures"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:11: in function "VehicleSeatIndicator_SetUpVehicle"
FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:96: in function <FrameXML\VehicleSeatIndicator.lua:93>

Locals:
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2x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn "Raven" tried to call the protected function "ArenaPrepFrames:SetPoint()".
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hi, i tryed what you said and it still doesn't sit like it should.



wouldn't it be possible to manage the label text (horizontally) like you manage the icon text and stacks text (align left or align right)?
Ah, I figured you were going to center the text on top of the icons for some reason. Quick question: when you set it up in bar-oriented configuration, which option did you select? I'm going to guess that you have one with the label on the right and, if so, I'm going to suggest that you switch to one with the label on the left (which will cause the label text to be horizontally aligned to the left).
i found that option without much fuss, on the first time i navigated all the menus one by one (which was on the the first time i was trying the addon and setting it up), choose all the option from the combo box to see how the text reacted.. and the option you're refering to, does not work like you said. it works fairly well when playing with bars, but as with icons it really doesn't do much.

thanks for the help, mate. guess i'll give up on the left label alignment.
keep up the good work.
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Since so many Glyphs actually add new abilities (like Dark Apotheosis, as a new Lock offtank stance) or heavily modify existing abilities (like Riptide having no CD), and are designed to be swapped around more frequently, it would be useful if Raven had a Conditional check for a specific Glyph equipped as a complement to the Talent check (which is already immensely useful, given how much swapping of talent abilities I find myself doing ^^).
I am looking into this... Should be possible without a ton of work.

Update: This will be included in the next release.
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Originally Posted by lyanthros
hi, i tryed what you said and it still doesn't sit like it should.



wouldn't it be possible to manage the label text (horizontally) like you manage the icon text and stacks text (align left or align right)?
Ah, I figured you were going to center the text on top of the icons for some reason. Quick question: when you set it up in bar-oriented configuration, which option did you select? I'm going to guess that you have one with the label on the right and, if so, I'm going to suggest that you switch to one with the label on the left (which will cause the label text to be horizontally aligned to the left).
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hello, i've started using your addon recenly, mate. but i gotta say... its kinda awsome! :P l0ol

so, my question is...

'is there the possibility to pull the label text on the icons to the left or to the right?' the time and stack text have the option, why doesn't the label? my question comes from the fact that i change the names of the spells to 2 or 3 letters and it looks kinda lame with the text on the center. :S
...

well, would it be possible to add those 2 options in the future? or change the vertical ones to horizontal? it might work because you have the vertical offset. :S
This has come up before so I am inclined to make a small change in the next release...

It is not obvious but the label text is horizontally aligned differently in bar-oriented and icon-oriented configurations. Bar configurations currently always align labels based on the Layout>Option configuration (left or right depending on which side of the bar they are on). Icon configurations always align labels in the center. Thus, if you start with an icon configuration you can get what you describe but if you start with a bar configuration you cannot.

It is not obvious from the default settings for bar and icon configurations but they actually use all the same display elements, just with slightly different layering and default alignments. It is possible to create icon-looking configurations from starting bar configurations and bar-looking configurations from starting icon configurations. This has proven to be a source of confusion sometimes to people experimenting with layouts.

This is a long way of saying that if you switch your starting configuration to icon-oriented then you can get what you describe. However, this does come up occasionally so I am adding a "Center" option for label text that applies in bar-oriented configurations.
hi, i tryed what you said and it still doesn't sit like it should.



wouldn't it be possible to manage the label text (horizontally) like you manage the icon text and stacks text (align left or align right)?
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Re: Icon Borders in timeline

Originally Posted by Raederle
It took me some triplethink but I do now have the links working even in the custom bars, which is great. I still miss having the expired buff coloring but c'est la vie, no one can do everything. What I do wish might be added is the ability to color icon borders in the timelines by buff vs debuff vs cooldown. Right now there seem to be options to color the background bars, but not the icon borders. I'd love a thick 3 pixel border with a blue for cooldown vs the green for buff so I can see which is which. As a pally I have a lot of "lasts 15 secs refreshes in 30 secs" type effects.

Any chance this is already in the mod and I'm just missing where to set up for it?

Needless to say Raven is now the best in town, replacing (waaah) dotimers and (ok) sexy cooldowns. High praise for being able to do both.

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Near the bottom of the Appearance tab for all bar groups, including timelines, you can specify icon border coloring preference. Try selecting Standard colors for foreground and then set icon border to use foreground color. This will do what you want. Also, to get custom borders you might try Masque, if you haven't already, and check out the selection of Masque: Renaitre skins (you need to add both Masque and Masque: Renaitre addons).
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Since so many Glyphs actually add new abilities (like Dark Apotheosis, as a new Lock offtank stance) or heavily modify existing abilities (like Riptide having no CD), and are designed to be swapped around more frequently, it would be useful if Raven had a Conditional check for a specific Glyph equipped as a complement to the Talent check (which is already immensely useful, given how much swapping of talent abilities I find myself doing ^^).
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Icon Borders in timeline

It took me some triplethink but I do now have the links working even in the custom bars, which is great. I still miss having the expired buff coloring but c'est la vie, no one can do everything. What I do wish might be added is the ability to color icon borders in the timelines by buff vs debuff vs cooldown. Right now there seem to be options to color the background bars, but not the icon borders. I'd love a thick 3 pixel border with a blue for cooldown vs the green for buff so I can see which is which. As a pally I have a lot of "lasts 15 secs refreshes in 30 secs" type effects.

Any chance this is already in the mod and I'm just missing where to set up for it?

Needless to say Raven is now the best in town, replacing (waaah) dotimers and (ok) sexy cooldowns. High praise for being able to do both.

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Originally Posted by Tojaso
Originally Posted by lyanthros
hello, i've started using your addon recenly, mate. but i gotta say... its kinda awsome! :P l0ol

so, my question is...

'is there the possibility to pull the label text on the icons to the left or to the right?' the time and stack text have the option, why doesn't the label? my question comes from the fact that i change the names of the spells to 2 or 3 letters and it looks kinda lame with the text on the center. :S
...

well, would it be possible to add those 2 options in the future? or change the vertical ones to horizontal? it might work because you have the vertical offset. :S
This has come up before so I am inclined to make a small change in the next release...

It is not obvious but the label text is horizontally aligned differently in bar-oriented and icon-oriented configurations. Bar configurations currently always align labels based on the Layout>Option configuration (left or right depending on which side of the bar they are on). Icon configurations always align labels in the center. Thus, if you start with an icon configuration you can get what you describe but if you start with a bar configuration you cannot.

It is not obvious from the default settings for bar and icon configurations but they actually use all the same display elements, just with slightly different layering and default alignments. It is possible to create icon-looking configurations from starting bar configurations and bar-looking configurations from starting icon configurations. This has proven to be a source of confusion sometimes to people experimenting with layouts.

This is a long way of saying that if you switch your starting configuration to icon-oriented then you can get what you describe. However, this does come up occasionally so I am adding a "Center" option for label text that applies in bar-oriented configurations.
ohh i knew it had to be my fault! haha!
well, ok mate, tks alot. i'll try build it again starting an icon configuration, as i should have. i'll come nag you again if i can't manage to get the result i intented. i remebered something else o wanted to "report". you can see my screen and the icons are on the left, right? but i inicially tryed the other way around.. as in, having them on the right, but the text didn't mirror and it looked kinda bad so i pushed it to the left where it looks fine. (i can try post an image if you don't get what i'm trying to say.

anyway, tks alot mate. and congrats on the awsome addon. love it.
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