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WowheadPoints
Version: v40000-0.0.4
by: Cladhaire [More]
This addon adds stat weight calculations to item tooltips, based on the stat weights provided by Wowhead.com. This allows you, for any given spec, to compare two items to see which one is 'better' for your character.

Currently these stats make no adjustments for reforging or sockets, so you'l need to make those comparisons yourself, although it's possibly that we can automate this in the future.

The stats for individual specs are not meant to be compared to each other, you can't use them to determine if an item is a 'Tanking' item or a 'Casting' item.. the scales just aren't comparable like that. What you can do is use it to compare two items to see if one if better for a given spec, which is the purpose.
commit 0afe3878a6def2321fc23087baf756974e937d86
Author: James Whitehead II <jnwhiteh@gmail.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8 16:08:07 2011 +0000

Updated stat weightings based on contributed values

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Author: James Whitehead II <jnwhiteh@gmail.com>
Date: Mon Nov 29 20:51:45 2010 +0000

Normalize scores, same as StatScores

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Author: James Whitehead II <jnwhiteh@gmail.com>
Date: Sun Nov 28 12:35:14 2010 +0000

Added all class weights from wowhead.com

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Author: James Whitehead II <jnwhiteh@gmail.com>
Date: Sun Nov 28 11:44:20 2010 +0000

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Old 02-18-11, 02:47 PM  
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Another alternative

Another alternative could be StatScore
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Old 02-15-11, 04:18 AM  
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WeightsWatcher

Since Cladhaire needs a bit of well deserved rest from maintaining too many addons, an alternative to WowheadPoints could be WeightsWatcher
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Old 02-14-11, 05:39 AM  
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How to let people maintain their own weights

This is the concept for how people can maintain their own weights for WowheadPoints. Weights defined in this way will overrule the default values in WowheadPoints. You can simply disable the addon, if you want to use the original values.

Please note, that I haven't had the time to test this, but I've used same concept with success for ShotGlass Raid Frames auras. When I've had time to test it, soon I hope, I'll put it up as an optional file for WowheadPoints.

Edit: of course it puts up an error. local Weights is nil. I'll look at it, when I get the time - I'm a bit busy in my head

First make a new addon folder called WowheadPoints_rogue, then create two new files in the new folder:

WowheadPoints_rogue.toc
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## Interface: 40000
## Title: WowheadPoints: External rogue weightings
## Notes: Overrule the default rogue weightings for WowheadPoints
## Author: PingHansen 
## Version: 0.1
## Dependencies: WowheadPoints

WowheadPoints_rogue.lua
WowheadPoints_rogue.lua
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	local Weights = WowheadPoints.info

        -- Rogue weights...
	Weights[ROGUE] = {
        ["Assassination"] = {
            weights = {
                DAMAGE_PER_SECOND = 100, -- melee
                AGILITY = 100,
                HIT_RATING = 67,
                ATTACK_POWER = 57, -- Estimate, missing in EJ values
                MASTERY_RATING = 50,
                HASTE_RATING = 46,
                EXPERTISE_RATING = 42,
                CRIT_RATING = 35,
            },
        },
        ["Combat"] = {
            weights = {
                DAMAGE_PER_SECOND = 100, -- melee
                AGILITY = 100,
                HIT_RATING = 70,
                EXPERTISE_RATING = 59,
                ATTACK_POWER = 57, -- Estimate, missing in EJ values
                HASTE_RATING = 56,
                CRIT_RATING = 35,
                MASTERY_RATING = 33,
            },
        },
        ["Subtlety"] = {
            weights = {
                DAMAGE_PER_SECOND = 100, -- melee
                AGILITY = 100,
                ATTACK_POWER = 57, -- Estimate, missing in EJ values
                HIT_RATING = 40,
                HASTE_RATING = 37,
                EXPERTISE_RATING = 33,
                CRIT_RATING = 31,
                MASTERY_RATING = 20,
            },
        },
    },
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Old 02-13-11, 03:06 PM  
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Originally posted by Cladhaire
Someone sent me updates stats for all specs, but I'm not sure the weights are final, some seem a bit weird.
Yup, that was me

And, like I wrote, some of them sure do look wierd. There's a forum for discussing weights at wowhead, and it looks like they use what they get from EJ without critique. EJ may be fine for endgame, but for leveling, their weights are somewhat counterproductive. And not taking attack power in consideration on a rogue, that is plain wrong.

There are a few lines that you need to look at. They all have comments.
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Old 02-13-11, 07:54 AM  
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That's odd, I seem to be unable to find it now as well.. I wonder what the hell happened to it. Someone sent me updates stats for all specs, but I'm not sure the weights are final, some seem a bit weird. I won't be able to do much with it until tomorrow.. probably. I have a huge deadline next Monday and I've been working non-stop on it.
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Old 02-13-11, 07:49 AM  
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WowheadPoints - nicer, simpler

I've been trying Pawn side by side with WowheadPoints for a while, and it's WowheadPoints that I use.

Granted, the little indicators Pawn puts in the tooltips ARE nice, especially in an instance, but I prefer the way I get info for all specs at once. That feature is especially important on my druid, where I keep several sets for versatility.

The other alternative that you mention, StatPoints, I have been unable to locate.
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Old 01-02-11, 03:09 PM  
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It has absolutely nothing to do with that. I write addons because I use them. I no longer use this. I also do NOT have time right now to be supporting more addons. I don't need to be doing this one, so I'm going to stop. That's all!
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Originally posted by Cladhaire
I'm probably going to remove this addon. During levelling I found that the stats, in particular the weight given to mastery, completely throws off what gear is 'good' and what isn't, so I was discarding gear that was actually better for me to be healing with. I suggest picking up StatPoints, Pawn, or one of the other addons that do this and where the author has a bit more time to update it.

Sorry =(
Don't do that... don't give up just because there are other addons that do it, and you are having trouble getting yours right...

I like how this one displays it. All you gotta do, is it get it working right and you'll be fine. For Paladins, I notice the Tank/DPS are ranked exactly the same and that's because there is something not set up right in the code. That should be able to be fixed. Then you could work on making sure that it really can do what you intended it to do, without problems. That way you won't be getting rid of gear that you actually could use.

I always wanted to use an addon that would teach me how to determine exactly what is best for my class/roll/spec with ease. Every addon you make is great, don't give up - you're awesome.
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Old 01-01-11, 11:22 PM  
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I'm probably going to remove this addon. During levelling I found that the stats, in particular the weight given to mastery, completely throws off what gear is 'good' and what isn't, so I was discarding gear that was actually better for me to be healing with. I suggest picking up StatPoints, Pawn, or one of the other addons that do this and where the author has a bit more time to update it.

Sorry =(
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Question/Suggestion:

This is great, and some how it's helped me be better at what my character does, but I guess I still don't fully understand it, so I'm not sure how it's doing this for me.

My question is, I know you state that it doesn't help you determine if a piece of equipment is better for your spec (e.g. DPS, Tank, Healing), or did I read it wrong?

When I was looking for an addon like this, basically what I was looking for was an addon that will help me learn what to look for on equipment so I will be able to determine easily which one is better for me (I'm DPS and I need gear that supports that but also doesn't forget the fact that I'm a Retribution Paladin or whatever class/spec I'm playing at that time). I would also like for it to be able to compare with what I have on, to help me determine if it's better for my class/roll and if so, why it's better, that way I can learn. If your addon doesn't do that, then what would you suggest I use, if what I'm request exists?

Thank you.

Also don't forget what she said:

Originally posted by Ailae
There's an error in the Wowhead-weights. The weights for Paladin Protection and Retribution are identical. The Retribution one should look like this:

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["Retribution (DPS)"] = {
	weights = {
		DAMAGE_PER_SECOND = 470,
		MASTERY_RATING = 100,
		HIT_RATING = 100,
		STRENGTH = 80,
		EXPERTISE_RATING = 66,
		CRIT_RATING = 40,
		AGILITY = 32,
		HASTE_RATING = 30,
		SPELL_POWER = 9,
	},
},
But you might wanna double-check the weights, since it's really late here.
It's true, they are listed completely the same. I wish I knew LUA, I would fix it for myself for now until an update is put out.
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There's an error in the Wowhead-weights. The weights for Paladin Protection and Retribution are identical. The Retribution one should look like this:

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["Retribution (DPS)"] = {
	weights = {
		DAMAGE_PER_SECOND = 470,
		MASTERY_RATING = 100,
		HIT_RATING = 100,
		STRENGTH = 80,
		EXPERTISE_RATING = 66,
		CRIT_RATING = 40,
		AGILITY = 32,
		HASTE_RATING = 30,
		SPELL_POWER = 9,
	},
},
But you might wanna double-check the weights, since it's really late here.
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Old 11-29-10, 01:54 PM  
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Please avoid editing comments, I get emailed and read that rather than come to the site each time a comment comes in. Anything else would be unmanageable, and I don't get notified when someone edits.

New version where i normalize the scores, they're now the same as StatScores by virtue of how we calculate the stats =).
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Originally posted by Cladhaire
I haven't looked at the code, but feature-wise StatScore seems even better than mine, I just didn't know anything about it =)
I like StatScore also, but it doesn't yet comply with some of the new class changes. Case in point: Hunters don't use mana any more, but StatScore scores high for items & gear with intellect and other stats affecting mana & spellcasting.
For this reason I was experimenting with Wowheadpoints, hoping to have a better indicator of gear suitability for my Hunter character, at least until StatScore is corrected.

Thank you.

Please note the changes to my previous post, below.
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Old 11-29-10, 04:22 AM  
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I haven't looked at the code, but feature-wise StatScore seems even better than mine, I just didn't know anything about it =)
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While Pawn might do this and that more, How does this differ from StatScore?
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