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Warlords of Draenor Pre-Patch (6.0.2)
Siege of Orgrimmar (5.4)
Escalation (5.3)
Thunder Isle (5.2)
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6.0.2
LightHeaded  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)
Version: v60000-1.0.0
by: Cladhaire [More]
The last date of comment parsing is now part of the addon's filename.
Includes over 162,029 comments for more than 12,363 quests


LightHeaded is a very simple addon that displays quest information and comments from http://www.wowhead.com in game, eliminating the need to Alt-Tab when you get stuck on quest. This addon was inspired by qcomments and wowhead_quests, which both serve a similar purpose. Data is only loaded when you first request it, so you can be sure you're not using more memory than you need to.

I HIGHLY suggest using this addon with TomTom, another one of my addons (http://www.wowinterface.com/download...32-TomTom.html ). This allows you to simply click any coordinate in LightHeaded to add it to your map as a waypoint.

The following slash commands are valid:
  • /lh attach - Attaches the frame to the quest log
  • /lh detach - Detaches the frame, allows you to resize and move it
  • /lh sound - Toggles the open/close sound
  • /lh page - Toggles showing all comments on one page, or with multiple pages
  • /lh bgalpha <0.0-1.0> - Changes the alpha of the LH window background textures, so you can see the world.
  • /lh debug - Enables or disabled debug messages when loading quest databases
  • /lh config - Opens the LightHeaded configuration window

LightHeaded now includes the English descriptions and introductory text for most of the quests in the game. This is disabled by default, but can be enabled for those players that are not playing in their native locale.

LightHeaded supports sending coordinates to TomTom, MapNotes, Cartographer2 and Cartographer3.

IMPORTANT: Addon authors that wish to use this API and data should
include the wowhead logo in the frame that displays this information.
They are kind enough to let me continue parsing their database, and we
owe them at least that much. Thank you.

Thanks for using my addons!

Donations:
Some people have asked, so here is a way to send me donations:

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r373 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2014-10-20 22:49:03 +0200 (Mån, 20 Okt 2014) | 7 lines

Default to the standalone version of LightHeaded

The panel can be shown using /lh show and can be hidden using the close button
at the top of the box. This is not the final state, but should at least make it
usable.

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r372 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2014-10-14 19:57:32 +0000 (Tue, 14 Oct 2014) | 3 lines

Updated for 6.0.2

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r371 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2014-07-26 11:45:12 +0200 (Lör, 26 Jul 2014) | 7 lines

Updated parse

Total number of comments: 162029
Total number of quests: 12363
Comments per bucket: 32405

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r370 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2014-01-05 18:41:09 +0000 (Sun, 05 Jan 2014) | 3 lines

Update TOC version


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r369 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2014-01-05 18:30:15 +0000 (Sun, 05 Jan 2014) | 3 lines

New parse


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r367 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2014-01-04 12:01:57 +0000 (Sat, 04 Jan 2014) | 5 lines

Updated parse

Total number of comments: 589642
Total number of quests: 12299

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r365 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2013-06-19 06:33:00 +0100 (Wed, 19 Jun 2013) | 3 lines

Update for 5.3 parsed June-17-2013

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r364 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2013-03-24 20:52:26 +0100 (Sun, 24 Mar 2013) | 1 line

Update .TOC for 5.2

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r363 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2013-03-24 15:45:26 +0000 (Sun, 24 Mar 2013) | 1 line

Update comments, parsed 24-Mar-2013

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r359 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2013-02-18 20:15:49 +0000 (Mon, 18 Feb 2013) | 3 lines

New comment parse


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r358 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-12-20 09:46:43 +0000 (Thu, 20 Dec 2012) | 2 lines

Update ignores

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r357 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-12-20 09:45:00 +0000 (Thu, 20 Dec 2012) | 2 lines

Update parser

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r356 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-11-28 20:13:30 +0000 (Wed, 28 Nov 2012) | 1 line

Updating TOC for 5.1

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r355 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-10-11 06:44:23 +0100 (Thu, 11 Oct 2012) | 1 line

Updated parse Oct-10-2012

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r354 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-09-29 21:32:25 +0100 (Sat, 29 Sep 2012) | 3 lines

Update, new parse


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r353 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-09-27 20:31:23 +0100 (Thu, 27 Sep 2012) | 5 lines

Total number of comments: 126682
Total number of quests: 11767
Comments per bucket: 25336

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r352 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-09-09 21:13:17 +0200 (Sun, 09 Sep 2012) | 2 lines

Updated parse 9-Sept-2012

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r351 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-09-09 09:53:16 +0100 (Sun, 09 Sep 2012) | 2 lines

Fix NPC model hijacking

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r350 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-09-09 09:41:32 +0100 (Sun, 09 Sep 2012) | 2 lines

Update LibSimpleOptions to r46

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r349 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-09-09 09:35:28 +0100 (Sun, 09 Sep 2012) | 2 lines

Update toc for MoP

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r348 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-07-08 11:31:31 +0100 (Sun, 08 Jul 2012) | 1 line

Disable mouse on NPC overlay
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r347 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-07-08 11:29:44 +0100 (Sun, 08 Jul 2012) | 1 line

Update TOC for 4.3
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r346 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-07-08 11:24:39 +0100 (Sun, 08 Jul 2012) | 1 line

Disable mouse interaction with NPC model
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r344 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-01-24 08:48:31 +0000 (Tue, 24 Jan 2012) | 13 lines

Update for new comment format on Wowhead.

If you're using the API to retrieve comments and looked at fields other than
rating, date, username, and the body of the comment then you will find that
data is no longer available. However, the API has not changed, I just return
reasonable fake data for those results.

Parsed 23-Jan-2012
Total number of comments: 115267
Total number of quests: 9894
Comments per bucket: 23053

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r343 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2012-01-24 08:35:23 +0000 (Tue, 24 Jan 2012) | 1 line

Update TOC for 4.3

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r341 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-07-13 11:44:22 +0100 (Wed, 13 Jul 2011) | 1 line

Added an option to display english quest descriptions
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r340 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-07-13 11:37:25 +0100 (Wed, 13 Jul 2011) | 2 lines

Adding quest description LoD addon

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r339 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-07-12 11:29:06 +0100 (Tue, 12 Jul 2011) | 6 lines

Updated for 4.2 with new comment parse:

Total number of comments: 109927
Total number of quests: 10091
Comments per bucket: 21985

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r338 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-07-12 11:14:50 +0100 (Tue, 12 Jul 2011) | 1 line

Fix comment parsing
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r337 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-05-13 17:23:27 +0100 (Fri, 13 May 2011) | 1 line

Add an option to 'fix' the quest NPC model, enabled by default
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r336 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-05-13 17:22:43 +0100 (Fri, 13 May 2011) | 1 line

Update comments parsed 13-May-2011
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r335 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-04-30 19:25:28 +0100 (Sat, 30 Apr 2011) | 1 line

Update TOC for 4.1
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r334 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-04-30 19:22:40 +0100 (Sat, 30 Apr 2011) | 1 line

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r333 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-03-09 11:23:39 +0000 (Wed, 09 Mar 2011) | 5 lines

Total number of comments: 95363
Total number of quests: 9959
Comments per bucket: 19072

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r331 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-02-20 17:58:33 +0000 (Sun, 20 Feb 2011) | 2 lines

Fix clicking on quests in objective frame

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r330 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-02-02 09:47:18 +0000 (Wed, 02 Feb 2011) | 7 lines

Updated coments, parsed 01-Feb-2011

Total number of comments: 93134
Total number of quests: 9999
Comments per bucket: 18626


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r329 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-01-21 10:55:36 +0000 (Fri, 21 Jan 2011) | 7 lines

Comments parsed 20-Jan-2011

Total number of comments: 92086
Total number of quests: 10018
Comments per bucket: 18417

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r328 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-01-19 14:02:18 +0000 (Wed, 19 Jan 2011) | 1 line

Clarify that license is All Rights Reserved
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r327 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-01-13 17:12:10 +0000 (Thu, 13 Jan 2011) | 6 lines

Update comments, parsed 13-Jan-2011

Total number of comments: 91193
Total number of quests: 10015
Comments per bucket: 18238

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r326 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-01-03 18:24:44 +0000 (Mon, 03 Jan 2011) | 1 line

Fix issues with Carbonite's bizarre scaling and our reparenting of the frame
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r325 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-01-02 16:47:54 +0000 (Sun, 02 Jan 2011) | 1 line

Updating comments parsed 2-Jan-2011
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r324 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-01-02 11:17:07 +0000 (Sun, 02 Jan 2011) | 1 line

Add LoD support for QuestLogDetailFrame
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r323 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2011-01-02 11:14:20 +0000 (Sun, 02 Jan 2011) | 2 lines

Adding smariot's patch to fix the non-QL quest window

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r322 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-12-15 05:47:22 +0000 (Wed, 15 Dec 2010) | 1 line

Updated comments parsed 14-Dec

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r321 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-12-08 12:20:31 +0000 (Wed, 08 Dec 2010) | 2 lines

New comments parsed 5-Dec-2010

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r320 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-11-30 22:44:31 +0000 (Tue, 30 Nov 2010) | 6 lines

Updated 30-Nov-2010

Total number of comments: 78974
Total number of quests: 10088
Comments per bucket: 15794

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r317 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-11-25 12:01:11 +0000 (Thu, 25 Nov 2010) | 6 lines

Updated comments, parsed 25-Nov-2010

Total number of comments: 104542
Total number of quests: 12382
Comments per bucket: 20908

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r316 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-10-27 11:06:20 +0000 (Wed, 27 Oct 2010) | 7 lines

Updated comments, parsed 27-Oct-2010

Total number of comments: 106846
Total number of quests: 8599
Comments per bucket: 21369

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r315 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-10-13 18:27:41 +0100 (Wed, 13 Oct 2010) | 1 line

Updating TOC numbers for 4.x
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r314 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-10-13 18:24:44 +0100 (Wed, 13 Oct 2010) | 1 line

Update .TOC
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r313 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-10-13 18:24:34 +0100 (Wed, 13 Oct 2010) | 1 line

Remove globals and fix an obscure bug
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r312 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-10-13 18:17:35 +0100 (Wed, 13 Oct 2010) | 1 line

Remove some 'this' usage
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r311 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-10-13 18:15:54 +0100 (Wed, 13 Oct 2010) | 1 line

Clear up some stray globals
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r310 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-09-04 16:30:37 +0100 (Sat, 04 Sep 2010) | 2 lines

Updated data parse to fix experience rewards

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r309 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-09-04 16:29:51 +0100 (Sat, 04 Sep 2010) | 2 lines

Attempt to guard for automatic experience coercion to give sane values

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r308 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-09-03 11:46:02 +0100 (Fri, 03 Sep 2010) | 6 lines

Updated parse with experience and reputations, thanks Zidomo for the bug report

Total number of comments: 103676
Total number of quests: 8447
Comments per bucket: 20735
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r306 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-08-21 13:56:23 +0000 (Sat, 21 Aug 2010) | 2 lines

Updated comments, parsed 20-Aug-2010

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r304 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-03-29 12:06:29 +0100 (Mon, 29 Mar 2010) | 1 line

Added better comment escaping, thanks to Slaren for the code

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r303 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2010-03-28 12:15:41 +0100 (Sun, 28 Mar 2010) | 6 lines

Updating comments, parsed 28-Mar-2010

Total number of comments: 97606
Total number of quests: 8219
Comments per bucket: 19521

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r301 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-12-09 18:09:55 +0000 (Wed, 09 Dec 2009) | 2 lines

Updated interface number for 3.3

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r300 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-12-09 18:05:46 +0000 (Wed, 09 Dec 2009) | 6 lines

Added comments parsed 09-Dec-2009

Total number of comments: 91050
Total number of quests: 8169
Comments per bucket: 18210

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r299 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-12-09 17:11:48 +0000 (Wed, 09 Dec 2009) | 1 line

Updating TOC to 30300
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r298 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-10-10 15:20:19 +0100 (Sat, 10 Oct 2009) | 3 lines

Updated comments parsed Oct-10-2009

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r297 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-08-10 02:30:23 +0100 (Mon, 10 Aug 2009) | 2 lines

Updated comments parsed 10-Aug-2009

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r296 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-08-05 11:04:50 +0100 (Wed, 05 Aug 2009) | 1 line

Update position to match the new quest log frame
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r295 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-08-05 10:21:23 +0100 (Wed, 05 Aug 2009) | 2 lines

Updated interface versions

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r294 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-08-05 10:06:08 +0100 (Wed, 05 Aug 2009) | 6 lines

Updated comments, parsed Aug-5-2009

Total number of comments: 84058
Total number of quests: 8022
Comments per bucket: 16811

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r293 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-06-03 21:48:28 +0100 (Wed, 03 Jun 2009) | 5 lines

Updated comments parsed 3-June-2009
Total number of comments: 79912
Total number of quests: 8027


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r292 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-06-03 19:28:11 +0100 (Wed, 03 Jun 2009) | 2 lines

Fix search functionality

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r291 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-05-21 23:47:42 +0100 (Thu, 21 May 2009) | 2 lines

Updated comments parsed May-21-2009

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r290 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-05-21 18:41:05 +0100 (Thu, 21 May 2009) | 2 lines

Added an option to change the font size in the lightheaded window

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r288 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-05-12 14:09:25 +0100 (Tue, 12 May 2009) | 2 lines

Updating comments, parsed May 12 2009

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r287 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-05-10 13:26:13 +0100 (Sun, 10 May 2009) | 2 lines

* Ensure coordinates are correctly sent to Cart3

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r286 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-05-10 13:04:44 +0100 (Sun, 10 May 2009) | 3 lines

* Added a configuration screen available with /lh config
* Fixed an issue with addonloader and slash commands

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r284 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-05-06 13:56:29 +0100 (Wed, 06 May 2009) | 4 lines

* Added support for AddonLoader. LightHeaded will delay loading until you open the quest log, or another addon qu
eries LightHeaded.
* Moved NPC data and quest name data into LoD stubs to cut down on the initial hit when loading
* Updated to Dongle-1.2

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r282 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-04-25 21:53:02 +0100 (Sat, 25 Apr 2009) | 2 lines

Fixing NPC location information

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r281 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-04-25 09:15:21 +0100 (Sat, 25 Apr 2009) | 2 lines

Comments updated Apr-25-2009

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r280 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-04-16 09:29:07 +0100 (Thu, 16 Apr 2009) | 5 lines

Updating comments parsed April-16-2009

Total number of comments: 75993
Total number of quests: 8033

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r279 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-04-16 09:21:30 +0100 (Thu, 16 Apr 2009) | 2 lines

Updating TOC versions

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r278 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-03-24 17:01:17 +0000 (Tue, 24 Mar 2009) | 2 lines

Updated comments parsed Mar-24-2009

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r277 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-03-08 09:59:34 +0000 (Sun, 08 Mar 2009) | 5 lines

Updated comments, parsed Mar-8-2009
Total number of comments: 73339
Total number of quests: 7769

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r275 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2009-01-27 01:13:38 +0000 (Tue, 27 Jan 2009) | 2 lines

Updated comments, parsed 27-Jan-2009

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r274 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-12-20 22:33:22 +0000 (Sat, 20 Dec 2008) | 2 lines

* Fix for the issue that could occur when LightHeaded had not yet created its frame and the user opened a quest tooltip

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r273 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-12-20 20:31:26 +0000 (Sat, 20 Dec 2008) | 2 lines

* Convert search input to lowercase

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r272 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-12-20 19:00:54 +0000 (Sat, 20 Dec 2008) | 3 lines

* Added basic searching functionality to LightHeaded by quest name or quest id
* Clicking on a quest link while the cursor is in the search box will copy the quest id into the box and search for that specific quest

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r271 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-12-20 11:10:33 +0000 (Sat, 20 Dec 2008) | 2 lines

* Updated comments parsed Dec-20-2008

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r270 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-25 06:42:33 +0000 (Tue, 25 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

Updated the NPC database

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r269 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-24 22:58:13 +0000 (Mon, 24 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

Updated comments parsed Nov-24-2008

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r266 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-24 11:36:54 +0000 (Mon, 24 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

* Update comments parsed 23-Nov-2008

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r265 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-24 09:27:45 +0000 (Mon, 24 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

* Remove the conflict detection code from LightHeaded. Users that choose to run some of the addons that behave improperly
can determine any conflicts on their own. Addons that conflict will be listed on the LightHeaded addon description until t
hose authors resolve the issue.

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r264 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-17 21:33:50 +0000 (Mon, 17 Nov 2008) | 3 lines

* Altered the conflict detection system to be a bit more flexible. The only thing I can see tripping it currently are add
ons that actually misbehave, i.e. Armory
* Altered so clicking on a quest in the DEFAULT quest log actually does reset the page/scroll

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r263 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-17 21:01:34 +0000 (Mon, 17 Nov 2008) | 11 lines

* Updated quests parsed 17-Nov-2008

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r261 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-17 19:30:39 +0000 (Mon, 17 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

* Fix a misspelling in the conflict error message

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r260 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-17 19:29:05 +0000 (Mon, 17 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

* Relax the restictions for "conflict" detection

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r259 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-16 11:14:16 +0000 (Sun, 16 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

* Added debug messages to show that LightHeaded is in fact trying to send the notes to Cartographer

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r258 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-16 10:56:24 +0000 (Sun, 16 Nov 2008) | 3 lines

* Altered the logic of the LightHeaded display frame, such that it will remember in the same session what page/scroll location you were at for any given quest. This means if you scroll to the bottom of page 3 on a specific quest, select another one and then come back you will go back to that same location.
* Added basic detection for addon conflicts (where the offending addon is causing cyclic scans of the quest log frames). These addons can severely impact the performance of your client when using LightHeaded together with them, so a warning message is displayed.

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r257 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-14 22:09:31 +0000 (Fri, 14 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

Updated NPC data, parsed 14-Nov-2008

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r255 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-11 14:14:37 +0000 (Tue, 11 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

Update mapping tables for NPC coordinates to reflect wowhead zone numbers

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r254 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-11 14:11:27 +0000 (Tue, 11 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

Updated comments (including new wotlk quests) parsed November 11, 2008

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r252 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-08 16:43:48 +0000 (Sat, 08 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

Added code that should hopefully be able to format any x,y pair into somewhat intelligable coordinate displays
. Thanks for the help troubleshooting this issue!

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r251 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-04 09:29:12 +0000 (Tue, 04 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

* Alter the makecoord function so it no longer relies on string.format in any way

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r250 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-03 19:40:57 +0000 (Mon, 03 Nov 2008) | 2 lines

Updated comments parsed 3-Nov-2008

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r249 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-11-03 08:52:54 +0000 (Mon, 03 Nov 2008) | 3 lines

* Added a more robust conversion from decimal numbers into coordinates (xx.xx) that should work cross-locale
* Added code courtesty Rebligarbune that displays the estimated experience at your given level for a grey ques
t, and the estimated gold reward for max level characters

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r248 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-10-16 09:37:41 +0100 (Thu, 16 Oct 2008) | 2 lines

* Fix some issues with coordinate parsing

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r247 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-10-15 09:16:28 +0100 (Wed, 15 Oct 2008) | 2 lines

Altered the way the LH frame is updated, to compensate for a change in Blizzard's SimpleHTML widget

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r246 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-10-13 19:04:06 +0100 (Mon, 13 Oct 2008) | 2 lines

Updated .toc for 3.X

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r245 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-09-02 19:47:14 +0100 (Tue, 02 Sep 2008) | 2 lines

Updated comments parsed Sept-2-2008

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r244 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-08-14 17:46:35 +0100 (Thu, 14 Aug 2008) | 2 lines

And another

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r243 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-08-14 17:45:32 +0100 (Thu, 14 Aug 2008) | 2 lines

Fixing the table separator in zone map

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r242 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-08-10 20:48:50 +0100 (Sun, 10 Aug 2008) | 2 lines

Added a script to map zones to wowhead zid

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r241 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-07-09 09:32:48 +0100 (Wed, 09 Jul 2008) | 2 lines

Updated comments Jul-8-2008

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r240 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-07-03 22:30:14 +0100 (Thu, 03 Jul 2008) | 2 lines

Updated quests parsed July 3, 2008

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r239 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-05-29 20:28:58 +0100 (Thu, 29 May 2008) | 2 lines

* Added a guard to LightHeaded:GetQuestData() to avoid an error

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r238 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-05-29 18:26:05 +0100 (Thu, 29 May 2008) | 2 lines

Updated copyright information

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r237 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-05-29 18:23:33 +0100 (Thu, 29 May 2008) | 2 lines

Updated parsing to fix name mappings

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r236 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-05-28 11:11:49 +0100 (Wed, 28 May 2008) | 2 lines

Updated comments (parsed May 27, 2008)

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r234 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-28 21:04:03 +0100 (Mon, 28 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

* Fixed an off-by-one error that caused certain quests to not be displayed

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r233 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-27 17:42:28 +0100 (Sun, 27 Apr 2008) | 4 lines

* Fixed a bug that caused the wrong quest to be displayed after the frame was unhidden
* Changed the behavior of the close button to close the quest log instead of the frame
* If you are using a quest log other than the default, the behavior shoudl be unchanged

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r232 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-27 17:38:24 +0100 (Sun, 27 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

Setting eol-style

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r231 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-27 17:29:43 +0100 (Sun, 27 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

Updated comments parsed April 26th

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r230 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-15 22:42:49 +0100 (Tue, 15 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

Updated comments parsed April 14th. Comments are also now sorted by rating, then by date.

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r229 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 16:26:05 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

* Added the LoD flags to the sub-addons

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r228 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 16:19:30 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

* Removed data loads from LightHeaded's main .toc

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r227 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 16:19:02 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

* Created LoD addons for the data buckets

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r226 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 16:13:26 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

* Fixed the internal patterns for NPC location iteration

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r225 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 15:37:46 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

* Added varname to QIDMap

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r224 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 15:36:37 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

* Farging caps lock

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r223 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 15:35:36 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

* Store both addon name and variable named in the QIDMap

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r222 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 15:28:03 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 3 lines

* Updated comments/npc information parsed April 5, 2008
* Altered NPC location internals to avoid future issues

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r221 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 15:23:56 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 3 lines

* Added code to fetch the zone table code
* Altered parser to store wowhead zone ids, to be converted in LightHeaded

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r220 | Cladhaire-15704 | 2008-04-05 11:46:24 +0100 (Sat, 05 Apr 2008) | 2 lines

Removing deDE stuff from data files

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Re: Bug ?

Originally posted by dm82
Hi. I'm using Lightheaded for a long time and everything was ok till now. I downloaded r280 version (newest one) and I have only two windows and no quest level on the left of quest name. First window looks like original and secend one is lightheaded window. I downloaded dualwidge addon and now I have 3 windows but i still doesnt have quest level. Any idea whats wrong ?
You need to install an addon that provides quest levels. LightHeaded does not do this. There are a number of addons that provide this, Quelevel being one of them.
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Hi. I'm using Lightheaded for a long time and everything was ok till now. I downloaded r280 version (newest one) and I have only two windows and no quest level on the left of quest name. First window looks like original and secend one is lightheaded window. I downloaded dualwidge addon and now I have 3 windows but i still doesnt have quest level. Any idea whats wrong ?
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Re: Non-wowm question

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I am having re-loading lightheaded since the patch. I do not use wowmatrix and I have downloaded from this site and followed instructions and the usual procedures I have used in the past to activate this addon, yet it still does not show up as a loaded add-on.

I am by no means an expert at this so I would appreciate any help...perhaps a link to a stickied thread. This is the only add-on that I am having trouble with, so I am confused.

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There is a readme.txt file included in my addon. It indicates how the addon should be installed. Please follow those directions and report back.
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Non-wowm question

I am having re-loading lightheaded since the patch. I do not use wowmatrix and I have downloaded from this site and followed instructions and the usual procedures I have used in the past to activate this addon, yet it still does not show up as a loaded add-on.

I am by no means an expert at this so I would appreciate any help...perhaps a link to a stickied thread. This is the only add-on that I am having trouble with, so I am confused.

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pfft wowmatrix...woot Cladhaire

Just wanted to put in my two cents. Yes I miss wowace updater .. no I wont use wowmatrix. Reason, to many authors have issues with this site, and rather than piss them off, I will take the time and download what ones I cant get from curse. Compared to what you and others do this isnt a difficult task nor is it rocket science. As Long as you take the time to write these wonderful programs, I will put on my game face and take the extra two minutes and download it myself. Thanks again for a GREAT addon Cladhaire
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Originally posted by Dranwyr
I do wish to stress one thing- despite my issues regarding the handling of this whole thing, I absolutely respect your rights and I appreciate the work you do. Simply, thank you.
I'm glad that you find the addon useful and I respect and understand the position of you and the rest of my users. I will continue to make my addon available at WowInterface, which makes it incredibly easy to be notified of new versions.
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I do wish to stress one thing- despite my issues regarding the handling of this whole thing, I absolutely respect your rights and I appreciate the work you do. Simply, thank you.
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Originally posted by Dranwyr
Ack- apologies! You may wish to read again, but the intent was not to say that wowmatrix doesn't show ads. I was actually conceding that one to you: there is no way in Wowmatrix to show the *host site's* ads. In my response I mentioned that that was a sufficient reason for WoWI or Curse (or anyone else!) to block.
Then there's not much left to discuss. I consider the fact that they strip the ads from the other sites (by not having written in a way to display them) and putting their own ads in their place a morally reprehensible act. I wish that weren't the case, but it is.

EDIT: actually it was not a concession to you so much as it was an attempt to forestall someone jumping in and saying that site users already do that by visiting with adblockers. My intent was to say that that doesn't matter (and is not a valid counter agrument) because the host sites can in no way add their own ads into wowmatrix. [/b]
I agree here, but I take it a step further. I think there would be complete and utter outrage if AdBlocker inserted their own ads, while blocking those of the actual websites. That is the equivalent here, and where I'm coming from.
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Ack- apologies! You may wish to read again, but the intent was not to say that wowmatrix doesn't show ads. I was actually conceding that one to you: there is no way in Wowmatrix to show the *host site's* ads. In my response I mentioned that that was a sufficient reason for WoWI or Curse (or anyone else!) to block.

EDIT: actually it was not a concession to you so much as it was an attempt to forestall someone jumping in and saying that site users already do that by visiting with adblockers. My intent was to say that that doesn't matter (and is not a valid counter agrument) because the host sites can in no way add their own ads into wowmatrix.

Further EDIT: I only posted this one to correct poor rendering on my part, not to continue when you do not wish to.
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Originally posted by Dranwyr
They do not "use two other sites bandwidth" except inasmuch as they direct users who will be using that bandwidth to download anyway. And they do it for more than two sites. They use *less* bandwidth and server processor time in this fashion than users who would manually go and download those addons.


This is not true, because every time the application is opened the client visits every single page to get the version and check if there is an update. I am aware of the way the client works, and it causes enormous issues. Because it's so "easy" the users use the client often, and as a result it ends up POUNDING the servers. I'm sorry, but this just isn't the case.


They had no onus (nor requirement!) to go to any site whatsoever to reprint site ads. They have no obligation to do this. Bear in mind NO automated addon download tool does this, even the Curse's own tool (and WoWI doesn't have one yet; I DO look forward to that day). While this is absolutely a *good* reason for Wowinterface and Curse to block Wowmatrix, there is no moral reprehensibility for this action.
I retain the copyright to my addons. This allows me the right to determine when and where my addon is distributed. I choose WowInterface.com because of the way they operate and the good they have done for the community. I believe that the ads on WowInterface are unobtrusive and they allow the site to gain a bit of money for hosting my addons for free.

When WowMatrix does what it does, it bypasses all of this. Beyond that, it displays its own ads. I find that to be a problem, along with any other updater (none of which work any more) that does the same thing. It's my right, it's my choice and that is being bypassed.

(acknowledgement of previous arguments) I have seen lots of other folks claim that many users use web browsers with ad blockers that would seem to invalidate the argument, it nevertheless remains that there is no *way* to show ads in Wowmatrix, and that is a good enough reason for WoWI and Curse to want to block wowmatrix.
WowMatrix DOES display ads! Absolutely, 100%. It displays ads. It displays its own ads. This is my problem. They take away WowI's and display their own.

Thank you- I had been looking for that. Note this is *after* Wowmatrix was accused of costing sites bandwidth. While it may have been the wrong move to make, it was certainly an understandable one for them TO make. Sending a DMCA cease request is the correct way to inform someone to stop. Had they not stopped, then there would be fault to be found.
There has always been fault to be found. You obviously have not read the direct numbers from curse.com about how much of an impact the sites have as a result of wowmatrix and the parasitic way that it handles updates. It hurts the sites that we rely on. Period. This is fact, you cannot get around it because the numbers show it quite clearly.

This is FUD. While technical errors are aggravating, this is unremarkable. They were not hosting an out of date version of ARL- they were posting an automated link to a version that was out of date, and this is due to misconfiguration on the HOSTING end, which also got resolved very quickly. There are two ways you could be talking about how they list your addons: either the list of addons a user has installed (which is FUD) or the master list of addons which shows which addons they could install, which goes (went) to WoWI to collect them. As a user of your addons Lightheaded and TomTom, which I used to have to manually update (and have to again), I have never been poorly served by how WoWmatrix installed your addons. You may have felt aggrieved that you had to support someone who HAD run into difficulties, but you have no obligation to do this, and WoWmatrix is extrremely unlikely to have been adding to your support burden as the automated installer prevents a lot of manual mistakes.
Fine, that was one example. How about them continuing to host the last GPL'd version of Cartographer? They claim it's the latest, when it's not the case. Fine, I'll accept that you believe this is FUD, but then again you're not an author actually sitting here trying to support people.

They always claim to have the latest because "They update with WowMatrix every day". I find this out after four or five messages telling them to update the addon to fix a bug from weeks ago. Granted, it only happened after the block.. but it's still real.

It continues to happen with Cartographer.

Now as I say this, I acknowledge that I am not you and you may have had a greater support burden than I have stated here. If so, I am sorry. Regardless, while this may be a reason for you, personally, to take issue with WoWmatrix (or even on behalf of others), it is again not a reason for moral outrage. It's a technical error at worst, and ALL applications have them.
There is no moral outrage. I posted my reasons for not hosting my addons at wowmatrix. I believe I am completely within my right to do that (which you acknowledge), but I also believe I am justified in doing so. You can disagree, but that doesn't take the factual basis out of my arguments.

A fair reason for you to want to remove your addon. They were under no obligation to remove your addon from a list of addons they supported automation for, just as you are under no obligation to allow them to do so. This is FUD, regardless of its factual nature, however, as there is no wrongdoing here.
That is a matter of opinion. They essentially strip WOWIs ads and display their own. Were this not the case, I'd not have as much of a problem.

The last fact I acknowledged previously, as the current verbiage of choice is no longer that they were stealing bandwidth, but that they are utilizing bandwidth in violation of terms of usage. Since there are no terms of usage posted on the site before allowing access to the site, this could be debated, but really, it doesn't matter if I DO debate it, as they have (again) every right to block access by anyone or anything for any reeason.

My apologies- I just saw the last line about not wanting to get into a debate with me. You have withheld damaging commentary, but not your opinion (as I have not withheld mine). I disagree that the arguments presented are not FUD in some cases (as outlined), but it doesn't matter about my opinion. Your RIGHT to not host/allow access is definitely agreed upon. Should you wish to terminate this discussion now, I will not continue or browbeat you. Should you wish to post a final response to this one, I will read it respectfully (as I hope I have shown!) and decline to comment further except if you specifically request a response.
I'm willing to concede some points, but you remain uneducated about one major point. Wowmatrix displays ads. Period. the fact that they essentially strip the ads from Curse and WowInterface and display their own is a morally reprehensible act by my definition.
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Yes, they've created a phenomenal product. A product which they produce and make money by using other people's copyright and the two other sites bandwidth. Had they approached the main sites and worked with them to create something that displayed the site's ads and was able to be controlled in a way.. then I would be behind it 100%. It's incredibly unfortunate that they took the route they did.
They do not "use two other sites bandwidth" except inasmuch as they direct users who will be using that bandwidth to download anyway. And they do it for more than two sites. They use *less* bandwidth and server processor time in this fashion than users who would manually go and download those addons.
They had no onus (nor requirement!) to go to any site whatsoever to reprint site ads. They have no obligation to do this. Bear in mind NO automated addon download tool does this, even the Curse's own tool (and WoWI doesn't have one yet; I DO look forward to that day). While this is absolutely a *good* reason for Wowinterface and Curse to block Wowmatrix, there is no moral reprehensibility for this action.
(acknowledgement of previous arguments) I have seen lots of other folks claim that many users use web browsers with ad blockers that would seem to invalidate the argument, it nevertheless remains that there is no *way* to show ads in Wowmatrix, and that is a good enough reason for WoWI and Curse to want to block wowmatrix.


In violation of the copyright of Omen3, they download the addon and hosted it on their own servers. This is a complete violation of Xinhuan's copyright. This problem has since been resolved, but they didn't even consider relenting until a DMCA notification was sent to them. This is a fact.
Thank you- I had been looking for that. Note this is *after* Wowmatrix was accused of costing sites bandwidth. While it may have been the wrong move to make, it was certainly an understandable one for them TO make. Sending a DMCA cease request is the correct way to inform someone to stop. Had they not stopped, then there would be fault to be found.

This is a fact. They were hosting an out-of-date version of ARL which caused Ackis quite a bit of trouble. They continued to list TomTom and my addons on the updater where users continued to say "My addons are up to date". This was not the case and it caused me a lot of trouble. This is a fact.
This is FUD. While technical errors are aggravating, this is unremarkable. They were not hosting an out of date version of ARL- they were posting an automated link to a version that was out of date, and this is due to misconfiguration on the HOSTING end, which also got resolved very quickly. There are two ways you could be talking about how they list your addons: either the list of addons a user has installed (which is FUD) or the master list of addons which shows which addons they could install, which goes (went) to WoWI to collect them. As a user of your addons Lightheaded and TomTom, which I used to have to manually update (and have to again), I have never been poorly served by how WoWmatrix installed your addons. You may have felt aggrieved that you had to support someone who HAD run into difficulties, but you have no obligation to do this, and WoWmatrix is extrremely unlikely to have been adding to your support burden as the automated installer prevents a lot of manual mistakes.
Now as I say this, I acknowledge that I am not you and you may have had a greater support burden than I have stated here. If so, I am sorry. Regardless, while this may be a reason for you, personally, to take issue with WoWmatrix (or even on behalf of others), it is again not a reason for moral outrage. It's a technical error at worst, and ALL applications have them.

I had requested that my addons be removed from WowMatrix. The only way I had to contact them was via the contact form. I received no response and only after WowInterface blocked them did my addons get removed from the listing. This is a fact.
A fair reason for you to want to remove your addon. They were under no obligation to remove your addon from a list of addons they supported automation for, just as you are under no obligation to allow them to do so. This is FUD, regardless of its factual nature, however, as there is no wrongdoing here.


The last fact mentioned (bandwidth usage in violation of terms of service) I acknowledged previously, as the current verbiage of choice is no longer that they were stealing bandwidth, but that they are utilizing bandwidth in violation of terms of usage. Since there are no terms of usage posted on the site before allowing access to the site, this could be debated, but really, it doesn't matter if I DO debate it, as they have (again) every right to block access by anyone or anything for any reason.



My apologies- I just saw the last line about not wanting to get into a debate with me. You have withheld damaging commentary, but not your opinion (as I have not withheld mine). I disagree that the arguments presented are not FUD in some cases (as outlined), but it doesn't matter about my opinion. Your RIGHT to not host/allow access is definitely agreed upon. Should you wish to terminate this discussion now, I will not continue or browbeat you. Should you wish to post a final response to this one, I will read it respectfully (as I hope I have shown!) and decline to comment further except if you specifically request a response.
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Originally posted by Dranwyr
Poor verbiage on my part. I should have said FUD rather than misinformation, since any one of those could be true. I have heard LOTS of people reiterate those points, but *zero* factual substantiation which is why I picked that word. The best part is the change over on the final point over usage of bandwidth to usage of bandwidth in violation of their terms of usage which IS factually correct, and easy to find. The reason I posted in the way I did is due to the very wearying (to me) tone of moral outrage associateed with an automated download tool.
This is where we disagree. I have nothing wrong with an automated download tool, but I specifically disagree with this one for the reasons I list.. which I will reiterate.

It's not morally reprehensible, and while there have been issues with getting functionality addon authors may have desired into a tool whose sole purpose is to make an end-user's life easier, the fact remains that requirements made of Wowmatrix have been followed through with REMARKABLE alacrity. Better even than host site's response time.
Yes, they've created a phenomenal product. A product which they produce and make money by using other people's copyright and the two other sites bandwidth. Had they approached the main sites and worked with them to create something that displayed the site's ads and was able to be controlled in a way.. then I would be behind it 100%. It's incredibly unfortunate that they took the route they did.

They have a great product, you're not saying anything wrong there.

But really the point I failed to make (my fault) is, the only point that actually matters is that is is YOUR addon, and you have the right to host it and control it however you please. The other reasons don't matter except inasmuch as they help (or hinder) you in arriving at any decision you make. [/b]
And this is precisely where I have an issue. You say there is no factual substantiation of my claims. This is not the case:

* WowMatrix has violated author copyright by hosting addons without permission and changing the code of the addons it does install.
In violation of the copyright of Omen3, they download the addon and hosted it on their own servers. This is a complete violation of Xinhuan's copyright. This problem has since been resolved, but they didn't even consider relenting until a DMCA notification was sent to them. This is a fact.

* WowMatrix has hosted out of date versions of numerous addons causing the authors to spend signifigant amounts of time providing support for users who refused to acknowledge that they were using an out-of-date version of addons.
This is a fact. They were hosting an out-of-date version of ARL which caused Ackis quite a bit of trouble. They continued to list TomTom and my addons on the updater where users continued to say "My addons are up to date". This was not the case and it caused me a lot of trouble. This is a fact.

* When authors request that their addons be removed from WowMatrix, they have not complied.
I had requested that my addons be removed from WowMatrix. The only way I had to contact them was via the contact form. I received no response and only after WowInterface blocked them did my addons get removed from the listing. This is a fact.

* They have been and continue to try to utilize the bandwidth and hosting technology of Curse and WowInterface in clear violation of the terms of service of those websites.
This is a fact.

I really do not want to get in a debate with you, but please don't go around claiming that my response to this is FUD or not fact-based. It is. I specifically left my opinions out of the response.
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Poor verbiage on my part. I should have said FUD rather than misinformation, since any one of those could be true. I have heard LOTS of people reiterate those points, but *zero* factual substantiation which is why I picked that word. The best part is the change over on the final point over usage of bandwidth to usage of bandwidth in violation of their terms of usage which IS factually correct, and easy to find. The reason I posted in the way I did is due to the very wearying (to me) tone of moral outrage associateed with an automated download tool. It's not morally reprehensible, and while there have been issues with getting functionality addon authors may have desired into a tool whose sole purpose is to make an end-user's life easier, the fact remains that requirements made of Wowmatrix have been followed through with REMARKABLE alacrity. Better even than host site's response time.

But really the point I failed to make (my fault) is, the only point that actually matters is that is is YOUR addon, and you have the right to host it and control it however you please. The other reasons don't matter except inasmuch as they help (or hinder) you in arriving at any decision you make.

EDIT- Note, I am making no judgement on your decision not to host/allow WoWmatrix regarding your addon, nor am I making a judgement of WoWinterface's decision to block Wowmatrix. You and they both have every right, *regardless* of any reasons you may have!
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Originally posted by Dranwyr
A lot of misinformation there. The only part that matters (and really, it *is* sufficient) is

Nothing more is needed.
What misinformation? Everything I stated was complete and utter fact. I would appreciate if you could elaborate.
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A lot of misinformation there. The only part that matters (and really, it *is* sufficient) is

As an addon author, I have the right to control where and when my addons are distributed. This allows me to provide a level of support for my users that I feel is necessary.
Nothing more is needed.
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