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Version: 2.2.10
by: VgerAN [More]

Pawn helps you find upgrades for your gear and tell which of two items is better for your spec. Start with built-in advice from Ask Mr. Robot, or customize Pawn's stat weights to have it suggest items based on your favorite class guide or simulator. Pawn can help you decide whether it's better to use the cloak with 500 mastery or the one with 450 crit—whether you're just starting out, or you're an advanced player who plans out gear upgrades and regularly simulates and evaluates performance.

Language support

Pawn works with English, French, German, Italian, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish (European and Latin American), Simplified Chinese, and Traditional Chinese. Unlike most addons, Pawn's language has to match the language you play WoW in.

Staying in touch

For fastest assistance with Pawn, check the official thread at Curse. You can also become a fan of Vger on Facebook and get updates of new versions and stuff like that. You can also leave questions or comments there.

Getting started

If you're new to Pawn, don't worry—Pawn will automatically set itself up to give you advice based on math done by the experts at Ask Mr. Robot. Just watch for Pawn's green arrows. If you decide you want to go further, there are a lot of ways that you can customize Pawn, by tracking multiple specs at once, importing custom stat weights, and more.

Found a bug?

If you think you might have found a bug, just leave a comment here. In addition to a description of the problem, please make sure to include: (1) the language that you use Pawn and WoW in, (2) the specific items that don't work as expected, and (3) your class and spec if you're using the built-in (not custom) stat weights. Screenshots are usually very helpful as well.

Version 2.2.10

Added a compatibility fix for AethysRotation and other addons that scan your artifacts while you're logging in.

Version 2.2.9

Stat weights for all classes and specs have been updated based on hotfixes, balance changes, and new simulations.
Pawn will now suggest blue-quality gems only on items that are higher than level 900.

Version 2.2.8

Added new guidance and stat weights for all classes and specs to account for changes in WoW patch 7.2.5. The new weights are optimized for Mythic Keystone dungeons a higher gear level (870) than in previous versions of Pawn, given how quickly one can gear up alts currently.
In addition, the new weights for Assassination Rogues now assume that you use Master Poisoner.
Fixed a problem in Korean WoW that was introduced in 2.2.7.
Additional changes to French support to improve performance for players in all languages.
Lots of translation updates for Portuguese courtesy of Pawn fan tiagopl. (No updates for other languages in this update.)

Version 2.2.7

Pawn is now compatible with the French version of WoW patch 7.2.5.

Version 2.2.6

Pawn will now wait to start suggesting relics for the third slot of your artifact until you've actually unlocked it. (I thought it would be helpful for collecting a relic before you finish the questline, but it's proven to be annoying and misleading in practice.)

Version 2.2.5

Made a change to try to improve integration with Bagnon.

Version 2.2.4

Fixed a bug in Pawn where for some low-level characters, Pawn wouldn't recognize that one of your artifact's relic slots was locked, and would suggest relics for that slot.

Version 2.2.3

English: Fixed a problem where the Survival Hunter artifact Talonclaw didn't ever show relic upgrades. (It's possible that this problem exists for other artifacts—it would occur any time that the artifact had a different name on the item tooltip versus the shift-right-click artifact pane.)

Version 2.2.2

Worked around a game bug where WoW was saying that BoE relics looted at level 110 and then passed to lower-level characters would get fewer ilvls from that relic than they actually would.
Some other addons simulate shift-right-clicking on your artifact at logon to get information about it. This caused Pawn to sometimes receive incorrect information about your artifact, which would cause it to overestimate how much of an item level upgrade a relic would be. Pawn will now detect when this is happening and ignore the bad information it received.
Russian: Includes translations for new relic features.

Version 2.2.1

Fixed a bug in Pawn 2.2 where items in a player's bags that required a higher player level and couldn't be equipped were still getting green arrows.
Pawn will no longer work with WoW 7.1.5.
English: Relics that give a single level increase will now say "+1 level" instead of "+1 levels".
Russian: Hopefully fixed some of the catastrophic problems that started occurring with patch 7.2.
Italian: Includes translations for new relic features.

Version 2.2

Includes fixes for compatibility with WoW patch 7.2.
Pawn will now highlight relics that are an item level upgrade to one or more of your artifacts. Note that this upgrade feature is completely separate from Pawn's existing upgrade features—it's based on item level increase, not stats, and your custom scales are not used in any way.
This feature won't work until after you shift-right-click your artifacts. You only have to do that once (for each artifact) after upgrading to Pawn 2.2.
This feature will work for all of your artifacts regardless of which spec you're in.
Top-tier players who want to min/max specific artifact traits rather than focusing purely on their artifact's item level may want to turn this feature off—see Pawn's Options tab to do so.
Pawn will now suggest the cheap 100-stat gems on more items.
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Re: Re: Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

I see, so in addition to any scales you use to determine item value, you've also got a scale that just sums up all of the stamina on an item, even though you're not maximizing stamina. You don't actually use that scale to select gear, but rather just to know at a glance how much stamina you're going to get from an item. So, you'd want Pawn to be smart with your other scales (or maybe you don't have any other scales?), but not that special stamina scale.

Does that sound accurate? I'm just trying to understand what you want a little better, so I can plan for future versions. If the above is all true, then if I added a "always use the correct gem colors for each socket" option, a scenario such as yours would need that option to be set individually per-scale, not for the whole character, which is something I hadn't considered.


Originally posted by obuw
Ah yes, now it makes sense.

Well, wonderful. Problem is I would never socket a blue gem in a yellow slot since I'm dps. So it's being too clever for my taste.

I guess I'll just stick with ratingbuster for stamina values.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

Yes, that's pretty much it. I have an offense scale, and a stamina scale. I think adding an "always use the correct gem colors for each socket" option would solve the issue for most cases. Even better if it is a per-scale option.

Originally posted by VgerAN
I see, so in addition to any scales you use to determine item value, you've also got a scale that just sums up all of the stamina on an item, even though you're not maximizing stamina. You don't actually use that scale to select gear, but rather just to know at a glance how much stamina you're going to get from an item. So, you'd want Pawn to be smart with your other scales (or maybe you don't have any other scales?), but not that special stamina scale.

Does that sound accurate? I'm just trying to understand what you want a little better, so I can plan for future versions. If the above is all true, then if I added a "always use the correct gem colors for each socket" option, a scenario such as yours would need that option to be set individually per-scale, not for the whole character, which is something I hadn't considered.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

Okay, maybe in the next version, then. I'll make it per-scale unless it looks like it's going to be a bunch of extra work to do it that way (probably not).
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Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

Thanks a bunch.

By the way, another handy feature of ratingbuster is, when comparing two items it can show you the difference between them. Would allow lazy brains like mine to do one less basic subtraction, if that wouldn't be too much of a hassle to add.

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Okay, maybe in the next version, then. I'll make it per-scale unless it looks like it's going to be a bunch of extra work to do it that way (probably not).
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Re: Re: [BUG] Sockets counting Twice

That's definitely scheduled for a future version.
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Pawn 1.0.1 will give you the ability to go back to the old gem socketing behavior, where it just used the correct colors instead of maximizing the item value. I'll probably release it this weekend.
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1.0.1 has been released.
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Originally posted by VgerAN
1.0.1 has been released.
Wonderful, much better now.


One other issue keeps coming up - I believe Pawn ignores what you have socketed on the item, and tries to socket it with the ideal gem, right?

I can see how that might be the better way of evaluating items for some situations (like knowing how your item would compare to that new thing that dropped, if it was socketed properly).

However, say, when I am comparing my pvp necklace with a resilience/stamina gem to my dps necklace (to see how much offense I'm giving up for how much defense), it calculates the value of the pvp necklace assuming a better dps gem.

Well in any situation where your items are socketed with less than ideal gems (money constraints, pvp gear, socketing for meta requirements etc) pawn will show "incorrect" values. Not exactly incorrect of course; it will just show the potential value of the item rather than its current value.

A "use currently socketed gems" option would solve this issue, although I am not sure the number of situations where it would be useful is enough to justify the time that would be spent on coding it in.
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This should only be the case for the unenchanted value. The enchanted value should always show the current state of the item, including the actual gems that you have socketed. Empty sockets will be valued at the value you gave to that empty socket as a "stat," but filled sockets will be valued based on the stats of the gems in them. Socket bonuses will be counted if you qualify OR if there's at least one open socket still. Only the unenchanted value will ignore the gems currently in the item.


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One other issue keeps coming up - I believe Pawn ignores what you have socketed on the item, and tries to socket it with the ideal gem, right?
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I see, that makes sense. I never use the enchanted value, since, well, it is the enchanted value, and it makes little sense to compare your item in its enchanted state to a new item with no enchant on it.

So if I wanted to use pawn to compare two items I already own, I should use the enchanted values. If I want to use it to compare a drop to what I have, I should use the unenchanted values.

Things would be sooo much better if there was an option to just ignore enchants alltogether, but not ignore gems.

Originally posted by VgerAN
This should only be the case for the unenchanted value. The enchanted value should always show the current state of the item, including the actual gems that you have socketed. Empty sockets will be valued at the value you gave to that empty socket as a "stat," but filled sockets will be valued based on the stats of the gems in them. Socket bonuses will be counted if you qualify OR if there's at least one open socket still. Only the unenchanted value will ignore the gems currently in the item.
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If you always socket your items so that the total value is maximized (or even get pretty close), and assign appropriate values to the four socket "stats," then you can also ignore gems, always compare unenchanted values, and turn off the enchanted values entirely.

Originally posted by obuw Things would be sooo much better if there was an option to just ignore enchants alltogether, but not ignore gems.
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I just wanted to comment on how glad I was to find your mod! I had spent hours putting together a spreadsheet that assigned a value to all the gear that could be an upgrade based on the stats. While helpful I had begun to think maybe I should make a mod to do it for me. Then I found yours. I spend maybe 2 minutes setting it up and now the tooltips show the exact same values that I get in my spreadsheet. Exactly what I wanted!

Thanks for the addon!
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Thanks. I still find myself using my spreadsheet to plan gear acquisitions, but I hope to make my spreadsheet less and less necessary with each version of Pawn.
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Enchanted item values, unenchanted items values discrepency

Ok, I'm a bit fan of straight comparison on item. This includes Enchantes/Gems. However, Pawn is messing with this. When comparing an enchanted item to an un-enchanted one (for instance weapons, one unenchanted, and teh same one enchanted with 81 heals) Pawn doesn't correct the un-enchanted weapon to include the 81 healing that would be enchanted on it.

"why don't you use the un-enchanted value only?"
Because that would not include gems into the calculation. Any item i get will likely be enchanted with the same enchants, and i suspect the same for the rest of you in most cases. Is there a way to fix this?
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Re: Enchanted item values, unenchanted items values discrepency

Why do you say that using the unenchanted value doesn't take gems into account? That's the point of having stats for empty sockets. Set the values of the empty sockets to the values of the gems you'd put in them. Then, the unenchanted values of the new healing weapon will be directly comparable to the unenchanted values of the old healing weapon, even if one of them had gems already socketed and was enchanted.
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