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7.3.0

Altoholic  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)

Version: 7.3.001
by: Thaoky [More]

Hi, my name is Thaoky, and I'm an Altoholic

Altoholic is an Ace 3 addon written for people who dedicate most of their time to leveling alts, and who want to have as much information as possible in one addon. The main feature of the addon is the search functionality which allows users to search their alts' bags or loot tables in an Auction-House-like frame (see screenshots). All this with multiple-realms/accounts support.

Paypal donations accepted at : [email protected]



About the addon & the author

I've been playing WoW since the European release, and I used to rely on addons like character viewer to check my alts' inventory, but since it was more or less abandoned and not always stable for me, I decided to write an addon myself and to improve the search feature as much as I could. I hope you'll enjoy it as much as I do

The addon has been in development since December 2007 and was officially released in late March 2008. It's still not final, and although it has considerably evolved since the initial release, there are still a lot of things I haven't had time to implement yet.
Please note that this is my first addon, and that English is not my native language.

Features:

- Languages supported: enUS, frFR, deDE, esES, ruRU, zhCN & zhTW.

- Account-wide data summary:

  • Characters' talents: Full talent trees & glyphs are supported for both specializations.
  • Money, /played, rest xp for each character, subtotals by realm, and grandtotals for the account.
  • Bag usage: see at a glance which characters should get bigger bags (bag size, free slots and types included)
  • Characters' skills: skill summary on one screen, namely the 2 main professions + the 3 secondary skills as well as riding. I may add more if there's demand. Profession cooldowns included.
  • Reputations: a list of all the reputations of the current realm's characters. You can see at a glance if all your alts are at least honored with Honor Hold if you want to get the new 2.4 blue PVP set. Suggestions on how to gring reputations will be available soon.

- View containers (bags, bank, keyring) of all alts, on all realms.

- Guild banks : You have 10 alts in 10 different guilds on the same server, all of them with access to a guild bank ? Not a problem, you can see them all here.

- E-mail: allows you to see which alts have mail without having to reconnect them. The addon will tell you when mail is about to expire on a character. Threshold configurable (up to 15 days). Multiple realm support as well. Mails sent to a known alt (one you've logged on at least once) will be visible in the addon without having to reconnect it.

- Equipment: See the equipment of the current realm's alts in one screen. Very useful when purchasing stuff for your alts at the AH. Multiple realms supported. Right-clicking any equipment piece will allow you to find an upgrade, this feature is similar to the official wow armory feature, and is quite performant, even though it doesn't match the accuracy of the official one.

- Search: the most important feature of the addon, it uses an AH-like frame to display search results. You can either search bags on the current realm, on all realms, or a loot table.
The loot table is a table based on AtlasLoot, but which contains only item id's, and therefore keeps memory usage minimal.

The Search menu allows you to find items based on their name (even partial), level, type or rarity, almost like at the AH. It is also possible to search known recipes.

- Quest Log: See the quest logs of all your alts, as well as an indication of which alts are on a specific quest. Clicking on a quest link in the chat log will tell you which alts are on that quest.

- Suggestions: Currently, only profession leveling suggestions are available when mousing over your current level in a specific profession. Suggestions are based on the leveling guides posted on the official US forums (credit goes to their respective authors). The addon also suggests you where to quest/grind xp depending on your character level.

Suggestions were also added for the most recent factions. More to come later.

- Auction house: You can see which auctions/bids you've placed with an alt without being logged in or being at the AH.

- Professions: You can browse all known recipes in a thotbot like frame (see screenshot).

- Mounts & Pets of all your alts.

- Achievements are tracked for all you alts (see screenshot).

- Guild Members: a list of your connected guildmates, along with their alts (if they're using Altoholic too), and their average item level. Clicking their AiL will also allow you to "remotely" inspect their equipment.

- Guild Skills: a list of altoholic users in your guild, along with their alts and direct profession links. All professions are available in one click.

- Guild Bank tabs: a list of altoholic users and the time at which they last visited the guild bank. If you haven't visited the guild bank for a few days, you can remotely update your local data without going to a capital city.

FAQ

The FAQ has been moved here : http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=372&a=faq


Credits

- I'd like to thank my guild, Odysseüs on EU-Marécages de Zangar, for assisting me since the earliest phases, thanks guys for everything you've done
- Thanks to the wowace community, you've been very helpful and this addon would not be there without the technical answers you gave me (especially Xinhuan, author of BankItems)
- Thanks to all the guys who are behind AtlasLoot, keeping the loot table up-to-date is a tremendous work, and the search functionality of Altoholic would not be what it is without your hard work.
- Thanks to Ayindi (wowace) & sLiz3r (curse) for the German translation.
- Thanks to NightOwl (wowace) for the zhTW translation.
- Thanks to Wang (wowace) for the zhCN translation.
- Thanks to Hellbot for the ruRU translation.
- Thanks to Laumac for the frFR translation.
- Thanks to IrregularByte for the esES translation.
- Brykrys for the LinkWrangler support.

Join the #altoholic IRC channel on Freenode : irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/

IMPORTANT NOTE: As with every new expansion, many things have changed in the API, and it is REQUIRED to clear your Saved Variables for the addon.
This means cleaning the following files in \WTF\Account\<your_account>\SavedVariables : Altoholic.lua & All DataStore*.lua

There WILL be bugs if you use your old files without cleaning them first.
Some fixes to work around API changes are too time consuming, so cleaning is required. A meager price to pay once per expansion.

7.3.001 (04/09/2017)

- Caged pets are now properly recognized in the inventory.
- Search tab : fixed caged pets not being returned in the search results.
Note: caged pets stored in the guild bank are not correctly visible. This is due to the game returning different item information for the caged pet when it is stored in the guild bank vs in your bags.
If someone knows a way around this, I'm all ears :)
- Search tab : fixed mythic keystones not being returned in the search results.
- Made some improvements to the emissaries' panel, progress is now shown for each alt/zone. Quests are now sorted by expiry time (closest to expiry at the top). Thanks Paintstorm & Caspianroach for the suggestions.
- Account Summary : Improved formatting of artifact power in the tooltip.
- Grids -> Sets : added some extra filters for sets (faction + PVP type).
- Characters -> Quests : the panel is being rewritten, but I have to face the facts, it won't be ready anytime soon, and the release has been delayed long enough.
If you cannot live with this panel, edit the file Altoholic_Characters\Frames\Quests.lua, and delete lines 219+220 in the Update function.
Note: rendering is primitive, you just have a list of quests, and the filter in the "Quests" icon does not work. Categories are listed, but that's all.
Sorry, I had hoped this would have been ready for 7.3 .. but Blizzard released sooner than I had expected.

7.2.003b (01/06/2017)

- Fixed minimap icon not being properly restored at logon.

7.2.003 (01/06/2017)

- Fixed a bug where searched results were not shown in the proper quality (ex: upgraded items).
- Changed the navigation of the characters' tab. In order to win some real estate for future updates, I have removed the drop down list that allows you to select the realm.
You can now select alts from other realms directly from the character icon.
- Updated Herb and Mining Nodes, that was long overdue. (Thanks 2TailedFox !)
- Fixed a lua error in the search tab.
- Fixed Midsummer achievements.
- DataStore_Quests: now tracking emissary quests
Notes about emissary quests:
- There are 2 places to view the status of your emissary quests: Grids -> Daily quests & Grids -> Emissary quests
- In the 'Daily quests' panel, you can view the emissaries that you have COMPLETED TODAY, they will be reset every day, like any other daily quest.
Since there is no way to determine when they should actually reset, it's the best compromise.
- In the 'Emissary quests' panel, you can view the emissaries that are in your characters' quest logs, meaning that these are the quests NOT YET COMPLETED.
Because the quest log is only scanned when you log on, make sure that you log on with your alts on a regular basis, otherwise you will see outdated information in this panel.
- These 2 panels complement each other, it is intentional that they show you what has been completed vs what has not.

- Brought back a name to the minimap button frame, goes against my principles, but I love you guys that much!
(the fear of an army of angry users armed with pitchforks may have changed my mind though :P)
- Added a new panel in the grids tab : Sets !
In this panel you can see all the transmog sets you collected, across all classes.
This panel shows you all set variations that exist, even some that are normally hidden until they have been collected (Tier 3, darkmoon faire, other faction ..).
If you were wondering what to do with all those marks of honor.. here is your chance to spend them :p
The whole thing was quite complex to implement and required a deep dive in the data, and a crapload of manual work.
Mapping the whole table of sets took me a few days.
Some days I believe Blizzard organizes their data in such a way in order to mentally torture addon authors..
But anyway, I'm quite happy with the result, and hope you'll enjoy it too :)

A few notes about this panel :
- Due to the amount of manual work, it is possible I have mistakenly copy-pasted a wrong set ID. If you identify one, please let me know.
- If you mouse over a set and see "Fetching item data ..", mouse away and over it again, this is due to the way the game handles the item cache. Nothing I can do about it.

!! Important tip for the crazy set transmog collectors out there (like me :p) :
I was not really sure if looting a given piece of equipment that is not for your class is actually registered into your list of transmogs.
While running Sunwell with my mage, I dropped a piece that was part of the warlock set, and it actually counted.
I could not see it directly in the addon, because I only read data for the current alt, but when I logged my warlock, the piece was definitely there.
It also means that if you are hunting for specific parts, you can run a legacy raid with alts having the same armor type.
That will not work for all pieces, but for some, it helps :)

It clearly does not work for weapon types you can't equip. I looted a nice bow with my mage, but my hunter did not have the transmog.


- Added a new library : LibMVC
LibMVC modifies the way frame templates are implemented.
Previous version relied on "class extensions", which were a first step towards a proper MVC pattern.
This is something I wanted to do ever since Blizzard added the 'parentKey' attribute in XML.
The current version is getting close to AngularJS and class extensions are now called controllers (as they should).
A goal I have had for a long time but never had time to implement was to support some sort of inheritance,
so that the OnLoad of a frame could call the OnLoad of the frames it derives from.
There is no way to do this natively, hence this new library.
Using AngularJS a lot at work has helped seeing clearer through this.
LibMVC also supports injecting services into controllers, as in Angular.
I have not decided yet if I will implement data binding, that might happen, but at a later stage.

This is 100% transparent for users. Devs on the other hand may be interested in checking the simple implementation.
The whole addon has not yet been corrected to support this, so those who are curious should check the Guild or Achievements tabs, they're pretty clean.


7.2.002 (28/04/2017)

- Fixed a bug assigning gained artifact xp to the wrong artifact.
- Fixed a Lua error when scanning an artifact's data.
- Added the faction Armies of Legionfall.
- Changed format of large numbers displayed in the Artifact pane.
- Added support for Nethershards and Legionfall War Supplies (Thanks AlexSUCF !)
- Sending a mail to an alt no longer update its last mailbox visit time
- Added Legion fishing achievements
- Moved enUS at the top of each locale.xml to load this locale first (never knew this was an issue :/)
- Valor currencies now being properly tracked

7.2.001 (29/03/2017)

- DataStore_Talents : Fixed a few issues when scanning artifact data (Thanks AlexSUCF !)
- DataStore_Talents : Fixed an issue when artifact XP was updated.

Note: I haven't had time to play much tonight, but I did not discover urgent issues. I'll keep testing tomorrow & Friday and will post a fix if anything break.
At the very least, I'll have to test the new reputation paragons to see if anything is broken on that side.

Older patch notes : see changelog.txt
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lol ^^
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Originally posted by Thaoky
It's already implemented in my version.. there's even more than that, but that's a feature you'll discover when I release
I hope it'll allow to add some adverticement code around the profession link ^_^
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It's already implemented in my version.. there's even more than that, but that's a feature you'll discover when I release
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Just a suggestion, if it is possible, grab the profession link and allow to repost it from Altoholic interface.
I often need to post my JC/BS/IC chars books while i'm on main, and it turning to the headache >.<
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There's a typo in the options, the second "show fubar icon" is actually "show fubar text", only the label is incorrect. I actually did not test b2f, so there may be issues like this one. I'd suggest going fully LDB, it's open and works like a charm.

Glad you fixed it anyway
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Originally posted by Thaoky
b2f most likely detects the presence of LDB, and thus adds the "LDB" icon that you see in fubar. I'd suggest hiding it from your LDB display or whatever available option you can find in b2f.
Well see.... i hide it in b2f, i hide it in alto, and its still there.. O.o

I have two options in alto for "show fubar icon" they both either make the text "Altoholic" show or the icon, or both... neither disables it, and i't doesn't show up under the default fubar menu.

On disabling B2F the problem no longer persists, but i kinda need it to display bugsack on my fubar. any more ideas? Thanks for the help, i found the keybind option lol, i dont know why i didnt look there in the first place.

EDIT: i think ive found a way to move away from fubar and b2f, so I wont have this problem anymore, but im pretty sure it was some handling between b2f and the icon display, because when i would enable it from b2f, it would show a smaller icon on the fubar, in addition to the normal alto icon and/or text. *shrug* oh well.
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Originally posted by bitechu
Something weird has been happening. I have Fubar, Broker2Fubar, and altoholic. For some reason, i cant fully disable the icon on fubar thru altoholic options, and b2f just makes an extra icon. :S i dont know whats going on! lol.

I was also wondering if there was a way to add a keybind to open the window?
b2f most likely detects the presence of LDB, and thus adds the "LDB" icon that you see in fubar. I'd suggest hiding it from your LDB display or whatever available option you can find in b2f.

Yes, you can also create a keybind, but that's from the default interface, not from altoholic's option tab.
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Something weird has been happening. I have Fubar, Broker2Fubar, and altoholic. For some reason, i cant fully disable the icon on fubar thru altoholic options, and b2f just makes an extra icon. :S i dont know whats going on! lol.

I was also wondering if there was a way to add a keybind to open the window?
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Re: Suggestions

Originally posted by Everglow
Love this addon. Do you plan to add suggestions for profession leveling beyond level 375 (WotLK content)?
Yes I do, just a matter of time actually, I'm pretty busy with adding support for multiple accounts at the moment. Help is appreciated if you (or anyone else) have got some good sources for leveling guides
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Love this addon. Do you plan to add suggestions for profession leveling beyond level 375 (WotLK content)?
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Re: Re: Re: Usage note

The minimap icon indeed appears on the right, and your screen size or another icon may indeed have caused the problem. I'll consider it solved.

Regarding the nil value, well, it's not related to professions in any way, and the fact that you got a message in the chat frame about recipes that could not be recorded is normal, it's due to the fact that your cache was not up to date yet. Technically, this could be automated, but the risk of infinite loop is too important, so I want to keep this a manual operation.

Back to the nil value, it's actually a value that represents the amount of time before an auction expires. Based on wow api, this value is always comprised between 1 and 4. I've only seen it at nil because of auctioneer, so I added a test to convert a nil to a '1', making this error practically impossible, but still..

I'm busy with a few other things at the moment, but I'll keep this one under the arm for review.
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Re: Re: Usage note

Originally posted by Thaoky
I'm surprised you did not get the icon because it's there by default, are you sure you did not have a previous installation ? Maybe as part of a pack or something ?
This is my first installation of Altoholic that I installed using WoWMatrix (which I HIGHLY RECOMMEND!!!). As soon as WoWMatrix installed the addon, I checked all of my addons to ensure they were up to date, which they were.

I believe that the icon was on the right side of my minimap, and hidden by my crappy screen size (the minimap is slighly cut off on my screen). Once I moved it to the left side of the minimap via the settings, I am able to see it without issues. It might have also been hidden under another icon as well, as I do have a couple different add ons that have icons beside the minimap.

Originally posted by Thaoky
The error you're getting with the AH pane is strange, it had been reported earlier and only occurred when a specific value was nil. The thing is that I'm testing this value right before the line that triggers the error, so it should basically never happen. I know it's a conflict with the auctioneer suite, can you reproduce the issue with 100% certainty ? if so, let me know exactly how, and I'll see what I can do.
I just tried to replicate the error, and everything worked fine. Last night, however, I did open my alt and while logged into my alt, I opened all of my skills (cooking, smelting, enchanting, first aid). While doing that, I got a chat message telling me that Altoholic did not record one or more of my recipies and to open that item again. I followed that, and once I stopped receiving those messages, I closed out of the alt. I am thinking that the nil value was caused due to Altoholic not recording all of my recipies (inc. first aid patterns, enchanting formulas, smelting abilities).

I am assuming that now that Altoholic knows all of my alt's abilities, I will be OK as it will learn new recipies as my alt learns them.

Whatever the issue was, it seems to be working as intended now.

Additional info (not sure if it will help):
Main: Troll Death Knight (65)
Alts: Blood Elf Warlock (55)
Tauren Druid (9)
Tauren Warrior (4)

The Warlock is the alt that I had trouble with when viewing from my main.

Thanks a ton! I really do love this AddOn!!!!!
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Unread 01-03-09, 03:19 AM  
Thaoky
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Re: Usage note

@All: Best wishes for 2009

@Shalvia:

I'm surprised you did not get the icon because it's there by default, are you sure you did not have a previous installation ? Maybe as part of a pack or something ?

The error you're getting with the AH pane is strange, it had been reported earlier and only occurred when a specific value was nil. The thing is that I'm testing this value right before the line that triggers the error, so it should basically never happen. I know it's a conflict with the auctioneer suite, can you reproduce the issue with 100% certainty ? if so, let me know exactly how, and I'll see what I can do.

@Eggburt:
Hmm, yes, which fault are you talking about ?
I remember reading something about lightheaded triggering errors with addon x or y but that were not really errors, there's a post on wowace about this iirc. I would not worry too much about it though, but give me more details, we never know.
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Unread 01-02-09, 08:28 PM  
AnrDaemon
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Re: Conflict with Lightheaded

Originally posted by Eggburt
I continue to get this fault periodically, which basically states that this mod conflicts with Lightheaded and may cause performance issues.
Which "this fault" you're getting periodically? Sorry, that i'm not reading it directly from your mind, my mindreading crystal is in polishing service ATM.
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Unread 01-02-09, 06:45 PM  
Eggburt
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Conflict with Lightheaded

I continue to get this fault periodically, which basically states that this mod conflicts with Lightheaded and may cause performance issues.

Recently, I have noticed an increase lag, which may or may not be attributed to the two mods. However, with the lag I am having while doing 25 mans, I have tried everything to increase performance. I have been disabling everything before raids to help.

I love both Altoholic and Lightheaded and consider them both to be mods that I cannot live without.

Are there any known fixes for this issue, or am I left with the decision on which one to disable?
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