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Elitist Group  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)

Version: v1.7.6
by: Shadowed [More]

Elitist Group's goal is to shift focus away from single scores which don't tell you anything about the users choice of gear. Instead of a single score, Elitist Group shows you a variety of data from the players experience per dungeons and raid (can be broken down by boss), to whether their choice of equipment, enchants or gems fit their spec. You can still see the players average item level as well, but it's not the primary focus and only there to give you an idea of a players gear.

All user data will be compressed on logout to keep the database size more manageable. However, a variety of database management options are included to delete data after a certain period of time, or not save data on people from another server.

Interested in people being able to see your mains experience or request your data, but don't want the entire addon? Take a look at Elitist Group Sender, which does nothing more than respond to experience or data requests.

Slash command: /elitistgroup (/eg) use /eg help for a list of slash commands.

Bugs? Suggestions? Items flagged wrong?
Easiest way to report anything is through the ticket tracker. Should you be reporting an item being flagged incorrectly, make sure you include as much details as to why it's wrong.

How are items categorized?
Based on stats. Spell Power is a caster item, Hit is for DPS, Strength is only for melee dps, Defense for tanks and so on. As you can see in the screenshots, you are given what an items type is. Whether an item is allowed or not is based on spec, meaning Holy Paladins will be flagged for wearing Retribution gear, but a Retribution Paladin will not.

If somebody is missing an enchant or gem, Elitist Group will also tell you that.

Summary
To speed up checking out your raid or dungeon group, you can use /eg summary. It will quickly inspect everyone in your group and give you a summarized report on the status of their gear, enchants and gems.

Player notes
Finished a dungeon, was your tank amazing? Notes will allow you to rate him 1 - 5 and leave a comment for future reference, these can even be synced between your friends or guild. You can leave one note per person, with your most recent note being used. Use /eg rate to open this.

Dungeon experience
Quickly see how much experience a player has in a particular dungeon or raid, broken down by hard modes and even by pass. For raids, players are experienced after roughly 3 clears and for 5 mans it's around 6 (combined runs, not 6 of each). The scoring is setup to reward full clears. That way, somebody who can only clear the first 4 bosses of 25-man Trial of the Grand Crusader will have to do a lot more clears to be considered experienced, compared to the person who can full clear it.

To make it easier on players, achievements are factored into the experienced weighting. For example, A Tribute to Insanity and The Immortal will count for a full clear. Even doing 25-man Uldaur hard mods will increase your 25-man Ulduar normal mode experience.

No reason your alt should be left out of the fun because you haven't done a dungeon on the character yet. As of v1.5, you can setup a character as your main and whenever people request your data in Elitist Group they will see your mains experience. No more being left out because of an inexperienced alt!

Item level
To stop 200 item level blues being worth the same as 200 item level epics, simple modifiers are applied to item level based on quality: -0% epic, -5% blue, -10% green, -40% white, -50% grey. Heirlooms are considered 187 item level blues at 80, or 2.22 item level/per player level.

Suggested dungeons are the lowest item dropped -11% for 5-mans, -10% for normal 10 and 25 mans and a -9% modifier for heroic 10 and 25 mans.

Addon communication
Notes and player data can be synced. Players can request your gear or notes at any time; however, you can disable all communications entirely so you will not send or parse to them. Finer control over what channels to monitor is also included in /eg config, you can set it to not listen for gear requests from party or raid, but still in guild.

While in combat, you will not send or parse comm messages.

To prevent people from corrupting your database, Elitist Group will not accept other players gear data unless the player themselves sent it (Johnny can send his gear data, Steve cannot send Johnny's unless Steve is on your trusted list).

As of v1.5, more complicated syncing has been added to allow you to send your entire user or notes database, see here for information.

Author: Shadowed <[email protected]>
Date: Wed Jun 30 22:09:07 2010 -0700
- Fixed the reported message when loading EA

Date: Tue Jun 29 13:15:50 2010 -0700
- Updated to 6 inspects/11 seconds
- Removed debug prints

Date: Mon Jun 28 23:10:07 2010 -0700
- Added throttling for tomorrows restart to inspection, following changes:
- On login (only shown once), a message is displayed explaining the changes, and blaming Gearscore if you see an unexpected amount of inspect throttled messages
- If you use /eg to inspect someone and you are throttled and don't have data, you'll get a message indicating you have X seconds until inspections are enabled
- Group scanning will account for the throttle and wait until more become available
- Added an option in /eg config that lets you "save" a certain number of inspections that the group scanner won't use, so you can still do normal inspections while the scanner runs
- Everything will take other mods inspections into account, in theory.

Date: Thu Jun 24 13:43:34 2010 -0700
- Added Ruby Sanctum info, the suggested numbers will be tweaked most likely, these will only be enabled if you are on 3.3.5
- Fixed leaked globals

Date: Wed Jun 16 20:07:18 2010 -0700
- Fixed invalid pattern match in group and individual player links
- Fixed talent #615 error in ElitistGroup.lua
- Fixed Scarab Broach being listed as dps, should be healer
- Fixed rare case where a cross server sync would show up as coming from your server

Date: Sun May 16 18:29:54 2010 -0700
- Updating localization is also good I suppose
- Fixed a rare error that can occur on inspection if a players talents are loaded incorrectly
- Added support for the group linking features to ElitistArmory

Date: Thu Apr 29 20:15:09 2010 -0700
- Fixed leaked global
- Fixed spaces not being replaced with a %20 for Elitist Armory URLs, was breaking Chatter linkifying
- Merge: 872c02f 3983f90
- Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/elitistgroup/mainline
- Summary inspects now prioritize those without data
- Added the ability to cap experience points from an achievement
- Synced the experience points with http://elitistarmory.com/experience
- Synced item overrides with Elitist Armory

Date: Thu Apr 1 21:46:42 2010 -0700
- Fixed an error when listing items by slot name rather than item name

Date: Mon Mar 22 09:27:03 2010 -0700
- Added an option in /eg config to reset the /eg summary inspect queue, by default this is disabled (It always processes the inspect queue even closed)
- Merge: ee085ef d5d1707
- Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/elitistgroup/mainline

Date: Sun Mar 21 10:09:12 2010 -0700
- Added Last Word override

Date: Fri Feb 26 16:38:27 2010 -0800
- Fixed an error in group_notes.lua:183 if the notes table wasn't created

Date: Thu Feb 25 14:55:20 2010 -0800
- Added an URL button which will let you link to people on ElitistArmory
- Reporting to chat will now mention that people can lookup their character in more detail on ElitistArmory.com
- Added Scourgebane as a Physical DPS enchant

Date: Mon Feb 15 10:06:45 2010 -0800
- Fixed an error if bad data was set in the database

Date: Sat Feb 13 09:32:19 2010 -0800
- Fixed error when somebody has a Shiny Shard of the Flame/Scale and the other version of it

Date: Fri Feb 5 12:51:56 2010 -0800
- Trying a fix if itemQuality returns nothing, although this shouldn't happen

Date: Tue Feb 2 15:56:19 2010 -0800
- Added info on the main/alts feature when showing the welcome to EG message
- Fixed QueueUnit trying to scan the player

Date: Sun Jan 31 09:45:53 2010 -0800
- Fixed error in scan.lua:444 when using group notes
- Moved to a single OnEnter/OnLeave function
- Updating data will reset who scanned it, fixes scanned by data being "stuck" if somebody synced it

Date: Sat Jan 30 23:37:58 2010 -0800
- Added widget builder, might as well given how much custom UI stuff I'm doing
- Exposed talent texts
- Added hook in for Elitist Group Leader if it's loaded to /eg
- Added support for reporting to custom chat channels
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Unread 01-12-10, 12:26 PM  
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When you say "the normal way" you mean when you target and type /inspect correct? Are you using any other inspection mods like Gearscore, Examiner or a mod that puts talents into tooltips.

Try the alpha at: http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroup/ to see if that fixes the lag issues (alpha, not the release!)
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Unread 01-12-10, 11:50 AM  
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fpsdrop!

Okay, so.. I just downloaded the addon and i suffer from MAAAJOOOR FPS drops when inspecting players the "Normal" way.. Also when using Auctioneer the window Auctioneer uses below a ITEM overlays this addons window on the same place.


(BTW, trying to "spam" my servers trade channel to get my gearscore infected server to use this addon! So fix these bugs! )
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Unread 01-12-10, 11:47 AM  
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Okay, so.. I just downloaded the addon and i suffer from MAAAJOOOR FPS drops when inspecting players the "Normal" way.. Also when using Auctioneer the window Auctioneer uses below a ITEM overlays this addons window on the same place.


(BTW, trying to "spam" my servers trade channel to get my gearscore infected server to use this addon! So fix these bugs! )
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Unread 01-12-10, 11:03 AM  
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Thanks for this addon! It's much like Gearscore but instead of giving some number that really means nothing, it will give contextual information! GJ mate

[edit] Shift-clicking items into chat windows from the player windows would be really nice. Kind of a bummer to have to inspect them manually and do it.
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Unread 01-12-10, 11:00 AM  
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You really need to be using the latest version before posting.

1) Hasn't been the case since the 9th

2) Doesn't care about socket bonuses

3) See #2
There's no reason to ignore guild members. If you don't care what they are doing, don't do anything with the information.
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Hi, I am sorry if this has been posted already, but there are a few cases where the tool is mis-reading gems for tanks or in a lot of cases people that don't use the socket bonuses. Can we have some customization to ignore certain conditions in order to customize it some to what we consider important?


Some Examples:

I don't care if a tank has PvP enchant on the shoulders that perobably means they are trying to stack Stam

I don't care if a DK or a Ret Pally override socket bonuses to stack strength

I don't care if a tank is overriding socket bonuses to stack Stamina

etc...

Also can we have an option for the addon to not even evaluate guild members we group with? Even if they are not geared if they are guildies we are most likely grouping with them on purpose to gear them out. We know what the tool will tell us

I love the addon otherwise. Thanks
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Unread 01-12-10, 12:11 AM  
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If you have items being flagged incorrectly, make sure you are using the latest alpha at: http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroup/ as it has a lot of detection changes to fix bugs.

Jaidan: Tooltip data will show gear, enchants gems, it will not show average item level of gear in the tooltip. Since you can duplicate the issue so easily, can you do a bisect search and disable half your addons/test, disable other half if it still happens and repeat?

Odds are it's something that works with inspect, so Gearscore, anything that adds talents to targets or tooltips if you want to try narrowing it down.
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Unread 01-11-10, 11:32 PM  
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Amazing addon, it's everything that gs should have been, but isn't.

However I've run into one show stopping problem on my first day using it. Everything was fine until I tried to open the window and during a raid. When I did that I started getting massive 2-3 second screen lockups and finally ended up dcing. Restarted wow, came back in. Opened the window and again lag lag lag dc. =/ I run a lot of addons so I could be conflict of some sort. Disabled the addon and no more lag. No problems outside the raid.

Additionally it would be nice to see a summary on the mouseover tooltip. Something like you have in the summary window. Have it like avgilvl/bad gear/bad enchants/bad gems. So that just by mousing over we can get a rough and quick idea of the person belongs in the raid at all. I see your hesitancy as it leads to a "gear score" type problem, but the convenience of being able to see the most important data all in one quick glance would be amazing.
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Unread 01-11-10, 10:23 PM  
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Not going to happen
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Unread 01-11-10, 10:16 PM  
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want

Hi!

Very pretty addon, but I want a small feature:
-show in tooltip average ilevel like in Gear Score

Thanks.
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Unread 01-11-10, 09:59 PM  
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It was fixed already, but haven't pushed it yet.
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Unread 01-11-10, 09:54 PM  
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Excellent addon and I like its spirit. That said, I observed that Icewalker is downgraded as a DPS enchant for boots for Holy Paladin. Could that be changed please? It is a very viable enchant for paladins with Pursuit of Justice as runspeed enchants do not stack with it. EJ also lists that as a viable enchant. Thanks!
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Unread 01-11-10, 08:28 PM  
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Then it's the alpha at http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroup/ that has the change.
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Let me re-install the one from here, I grabbed it off the curse client.

-edit-

Still flagged the gem as bad, as a DPS melee only gem.
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Are you using v1.1? I don't remember if it's in v1.1 or the alpha, but STA/STR was changed to not be flagged as bad.
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