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AlphaMap Early Beta

Version: v3.54.30000.B.8

by: Telic [More]

Early Beta with Dungeon Locations moved to a separate plugin AddOn.

"_Utilities" Plugin for display of locations with Flight Masters, MailBoxes, Repair facilities on Zone maps;
And extra info on City maps of Banks / Auction Houses and Anvils/Forges....

"_TravelAgents" Plugin for displaying Flight Masters/Zeppelin Towers/Sea Ports/etc. on Continent maps - click on to see destinations.

Waypoint arrow support for Cartographer/TomTom via Right clicking on world map POIs

Fix to Carbonite support which 'tricks' other AddOns in to thinking TomTom is installed !

Update to MobMap Support + fix(es)

Update to MobMap Support (ad nauseum).

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03-07-09, 01:54 PM

Telic

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Originally posted by Tenson
I have both Alphamap and Alphamap_beta installed, and when I use Alphamap, the instance modules show up fine (clicked at the addon screen), but if I just choose Alphamap_beta_instance_POI, it doesn't show up when I'm in Naxx.

But it works if I enable Alphamap_beta + Alphamap(original) instances.

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your great work.

I don't understand this - you can't actually have them both installed at the same time. If you install the early Beta, then it overwrites any of your current AlphaMap files.

If you re-install the original AlphaMap, it will overwrite some folders, but will leave the "..._POI_Utilities" and "..._POI_TravelAgents" folders in place - so you should probably delete them or make sure you uncheck them.

What is "Alphamap_beta_instance_POI"? And what doesn't appear when you're in Naxx?

Just delete all the AlphaMap related folders from your AdddOn directory, and then re-install the main version.

03-07-09, 07:28 PM
MyrddinEmbais A Kobold Labourer Forum posts: 0 File comments: 10 Uploads: 0	Next One : Code: Date: 2009-03-08 02:22:59 ID: 1 Error occured in: Global Count: 1 Message: ..\AddOns\AlphaMobMap\AlphaMobMap.lua line 123: unexpected symbol near ')' Debug: [C]: ?

03-07-09, 08:18 PM

Tenson

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Originally posted by Telic
I don't understand this - you can't actually have them both installed at the same time. If you install the early Beta, then it overwrites any of your current AlphaMap files.

If you re-install the original AlphaMap, it will overwrite some folders, but will leave the "..._POI_Utilities" and "..._POI_TravelAgents" folders in place - so you should probably delete them or make sure you uncheck them.

What is "Alphamap_beta_instance_POI"? And what doesn't appear when you're in Naxx?

Just delete all the AlphaMap related folders from your AdddOn directory, and then re-install the main version.

Sorry. I was confused, too. I was using Alphamap, then downloaded this beta, and extracted it, not realizing that it overwrote the previous.

I think it's working, I just didn't activate the "instance" module.

Thanks!

03-08-09, 04:34 AM

Telic

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Originally posted by MyrddinEmbais
Next One :

Code:

Date: 2009-03-08 02:22:59 ID: 1 Error occured in: Global Count: 1 Message: ..\AddOns\AlphaMobMap\AlphaMobMap.lua line 123: unexpected symbol near ')' Debug: [C]: ?

Doh !

...and the errors get sillier

Fingers crossed that this time we will be testing the functionality rather than my ability to generate random bugs

03-08-09, 09:26 AM
MyrddinEmbais A Kobold Labourer Forum posts: 0 File comments: 10 Uploads: 0	This Time no error messages shown but if you are in an instance the instance map is not loaded e. g. in hdb it showed the map of northrend and so on. It's impossible to switch to the instance map manually because alpha map switches back automatically to the worldmap. This issue occurs in all early betas. Another issue is if flight map is installed alphamap shows both icons for flightpoints. This is not very stylish because the icons are overlapping Last edited by MyrddinEmbais : 03-08-09 at 09:59 AM.

03-08-09, 01:42 PM

Telic

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Originally posted by MyrddinEmbais
This Time no error messages shown but if you are in an instance the instance map is not loaded e. g. in hdb it showed the map of northrend and so on. It's impossible to switch to the instance map manually because alpha map switches back automatically to the worldmap. This issue occurs in all early betas.

This is usually caused by another AddOn that is changing the map - for example MobMap can cause this type of behaviour but I did try to resolve the issue in the latest AlphaMobMap...
You can use the AlphaMap Pause button to pause auto-updating, and then you 'should' be able to select any map you like....

Is this happening with 'MobMap' disabled?
Is this happening if AlphaMap is the ONLY enabled AddOn?
Does the problem go away when the _POI_ plugins are disabled, or if AlphaMobMap is disabled?

Another issue is if flight map is installed alphamap shows both icons for flightpoints. This is not very stylish because the icons are overlapping

Do you mean Dhask's separate Flight Map addon ?
I had assumed people would just use that Flight Map, OR AlphaMap_POI_TravelAgents, rather than both... so just disable one yes?

My Flight master icons should just be on continent maps mainly, while the utility icons should be on the zone maps... so they shouldn't overlap - but I may have missed some?
There's definitely danger of some icons overlapping Instance icons....?

Last edited by Telic : 03-08-09 at 01:46 PM.

03-08-09, 03:37 PM

MyrddinEmbais

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Originally posted by Telic
This is usually caused by another AddOn that is changing the map - for example MobMap can cause this type of behaviour but I did try to resolve the issue in the latest AlphaMobMap...
You can use the AlphaMap Pause button to pause auto-updating, and then you 'should' be able to select any map you like....

Is this happening with 'MobMap' disabled?
Is this happening if AlphaMap is the ONLY enabled AddOn?
Does the problem go away when the _POI_ plugins are disabled, or if AlphaMobMap is disabled?

Do you mean Dhask's separate Flight Map addon ?
I had assumed people would just use that Flight Map, OR AlphaMap_POI_TravelAgents, rather than both... so just disable one yes?

My Flight master icons should just be on continent maps mainly, while the utility icons should be on the zone maps... so they shouldn't overlap - but I may have missed some?
There's definitely danger of some icons overlapping Instance icons....?

I've tested a lot and found out that the automatic map update is caused by a setting in the atlas options. If this setting is disabled also the automatic map updates of alpha map are ending.

Would it be possible to have the atlas option enabled and prevent alphamap from switching automatically ?

If i'm understanding right alpha map should show the instance map if i am in an instance. I've tested this with a few instances and alpha map shows always the overall map of the continent which the instance belongs to.

And yes i meant Dhask's Flight Map addon. Only his flightpoint symbols and this one of your AlphaMap_POI_TravelAgents are overlapping. So i disabled AlphaMap_POI_TravelAgents.

Last but not least i found another issue with AlphaMobMap. If i try to locate a npc with mobmap the marks shown on alpha map are not shown on their correct place. I've double checked this with the marks shown on the worldmap.

rgds
Myrddin

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03-09-09, 07:50 AM

Telic

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Thanks for all the extra information

Originally posted by MyrddinEmbais
I've tested a lot and found out that the automatic map update is caused by a setting in the atlas options. If this setting is disabled also the automatic map updates of alpha map are ending.

Would it be possible to have the atlas option enabled and prevent alphamap from switching automatically ?

I'll have a look in to this - but the AlphaMap Pause button should still already help(?)

If i'm understanding right alpha map should show the instance map if i am in an instance. I've tested this with a few instances and alpha map shows always the overall map of the continent which the instance belongs to.

Yes, depending on accurate zone naming in AlphaMap - which language client are you using?
I also wonder if it might be caused by the map updating of other AddOns - does it still happen if you disable the Atlas option you mention above?
Perhaps something has changed in WoW, is it possible for you to test with the last non-beta version of AlphaMap - I can't think of anything I've done that would affect this

Last but not least i found another issue with AlphaMobMap. If i try to locate a npc with mobmap the marks shown on alpha map are not shown on their correct place. I've double checked this with the marks shown on the worldmap.

Just NPC dots searched for in a particular way?
Or all types of mob/creature dots that get displayed?
I wonder if the scaling is not working... do you think the dots are appearing as if they were still being displayed on something as large as the World Map itself?

(Sorry to depend so much on other people's testing

I'm starting to think I may have to delay release until I can get my gaming PC back on line...)

03-12-09, 06:40 AM

MyrddinEmbais

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I'll have a look in to this - but the AlphaMap Pause button should still already help(?)

Yes, the Pause Button helps, but is not necessary if the option in atlas settings is disabled

I'm using the german client. It is still happening with the Atlas Option disabled. But not in all inis. I'll test this with the non Beta version if i have some spare time

I've only tested with mob/creature dots. Scaling should be ok, must be something different.

03-14-09, 12:40 PM
Telic A Defias Bandit Forum posts: 3 File comments: 431 Uploads: 8	@MyrddinEmbais Thanks for all the extra information I will try and investigate this further in the next couple of days... AlphaMap uses the following 'type' of script to check where you are when you enter an Instance : /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage( GetRealZoneText() ) And the returned text needs to agree with what AlphaMap has in its localisation.de.lua file. For example, to display the correct map when you enter "Gun'Drak", then the above script should say : GunDrak (i.e. no apostrophe) If GetRealZoneText() returns "Gun'Drak" or "Das Gun'Drak" or something else, then AlphaMap won't be able to display the correct map... So for correct localisation I need to know what text is reported by the above script inside all the different Instances on each different language client. It needs to be EXACTLY alike, including special characters like 'umlauts', and making sure to include prefixes like "Das..." or "Der...", etc. I will try to double check the German localisation file from the information available to me, but any localisation help is always welcome Last edited by Telic : 03-14-09 at 12:44 PM.

03-14-09, 06:13 PM

MyrddinEmbais

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Re: @MyrddinEmbais

Originally posted by Telic
[b]Thanks for all the extra information

Don't worry about. I love you're addon.

You can take a look at the german atlas localisation file to get the correct spelling for the instances. I've never had problems with automatic instance detection and atlas.

rgds
Myrddin

03-17-09, 01:42 PM

Telic

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Re: Re: @MyrddinEmbais

Bleh! I can't see what the compatibility problem might be with any Atlas option.

I'm thinking I'll just have to put AlphaMap development on hold for a while

(Anyone who wants the new plugins of the Beta with the old version of MobMap support can unzip AlphaMobMap separately from the main line version of AlphaMap)

Originally posted by MyrddinEmbais
Don't worry about. I love you're addon.

You can take a look at the german atlas localisation file to get the correct spelling for the instances. I've never had problems with automatic instance detection and atlas.

rgds
Myrddin

03-18-09, 06:23 AM

MyrddinEmbais

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Re: Re: Re: @MyrddinEmbais

Originally posted by Telic
Bleh! I can't see what the compatibility problem might be with any Atlas option.

I'm thinking I'll just have to put AlphaMap development on hold for a while

(Anyone who wants the new plugins of the Beta with the old version of MobMap support can unzip AlphaMobMap separately from the main line version of AlphaMap)

Maybe it's not an alpha map problem and the atlas option works in a way which is not correct?

03-18-09, 08:20 AM
Telic A Defias Bandit Forum posts: 3 File comments: 431 Uploads: 8	Beta.8 Attempt to correct positioning of MobMap dots... @MyrddinEmbais I don't think Atlas is changing the map at all (unless using Right-Clicks to open the WorldMap), so I'm left wondering if it is a more complex incompatibility involving AlphaMap + Atlas + something else... (AlphaMap_MajorCities?) i.e. is the error still happening with only AlphaMap and Atlas enabled? [Which Atlas Option are we talking about anyway?] Last edited by Telic : 03-18-09 at 08:23 AM.

03-18-09, 03:33 PM

MyrddinEmbais

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Re: Beta.8

[Which Atlas Option are we talking about anyway?]

We're talkin' about "Auto-Select Instance Map". If this option is selected, also alpha map begins to auto select maps.

The other problems we were talkin about have nothing to do with that.

Last edited by MyrddinEmbais : 03-18-09 at 03:34 PM.

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