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Version: 4.65
by: elchefe [More]

Gnosis (Castbars and Timers)

Gnosis is a highly configurable castbar and single timer addon. Gnosis can show ticks of channeled spells, detect unintentional clipping while channeling and combine data of channeled spells to combat text addons (MSBT, SCT, Parrot). It also allows to create buff, debuff, and cooldown (spell, rune, item) timers with a similar set of options castbars have.

To visit Gnosis' development site or to grab alpha&nolib files go to Gnosis @ CurseForge
For questions or comments please visit Gnosis' official forum thread
If you find any bugs or have suggestions create a ticket here

PDF documents containing a general introduction to timer bars as well as an overview of Gnosis timer configuration commands and options can be found within the Gnosis addon folder.


Gnosis also allows to create as many castbars as you like and does not force predefined bars onto the user. The "casts" of following "units" can be shown:

  • Player, Target, Focus, Pet (= Vehicle)
  • Arena Opponents, Party, Mouseover, Bosses
  • Mirror bar (Fatigue, Feign Death, Breath)
  • Global Cooldown Indicator
  • Swings timers (one handed melee and ranged, single and combined versions)
  • Most ...'s Target Units are selectable (e.g. Target's Target's Target = targettargettarget), though those units require additional scanning if bars for those units are created

Main features:
  • unlimited amount of castbars
  • single bar buff, debuff, cooldown and item cooldown timers
  • horizontal & vertical bars, invertable bar growth direction
  • customizable look (alignments, colors, size, font, casticon, ...)
  • full control of castname and casttime strings
  • black-/whitelisting (i.e. show castbars not/only for specific spells)
  • support for all channeled spells (show tick markers including spellpushback support for those markers, configurable)
  • combine dps of channeled spells and output via combat text
  • anchor bars to frames or the mouse cursor

If you want to help localize Gnosis please visit Gnosis Localization @ Curseforge


Please visit Gnosis @ curse.com for detailed information about Gnosis.

Gnosis v4.65 04/03/2017
  • toc bump for patch 7.2
  • minimal changes
  • added files: Excel orignal of gnosis_cheatsheet.pdf, Word original of gnosis_howto_timers.docx

Gnosis v4.63 10/27/2016
  • toc bump for patch 7.1
  • added timer bar option to track all three aura effects (auraeffectX=maxvalue)

Gnosis v4.62 09/04/2016
  • added support for talent specializations 1 through 4
  • minor Legion based adjustments

Gnosis v4.61 07/21/2016
  • using "World" latency since the previous latency estimation is not possible anymore
  • fix for bars with fadeout duration set to 0

Gnosis v4.60 07/20/2016
  • minor modifications for Legion (patch 7.0.3)

Gnosis v4.50 06/25/2015
  • toc bump for patch 6.2
  • added spellid=id option to the aura command (buff/debuff) to allow scanning for a specific spell id only (and not the spellname)
  • minor changes and fixes

Gnosis v4.49 05/11/2015
  • added bcol="r,g,b,alpha" option (override border color)
  • added time format string option 'a' for automatic time precision increase below 1s when using zero decimals (e.g. r<0a> for the remaining duration)
  • added recharge [chargecnt] : spell(id) command to display the duration until the given spell gains a new charge, passing the option chargecnt will force Gnosis to display the current amount of charges (e.g. recharge chargecnt : Shield Block)
  • added synonymns for options hideicon/hidespark => noicon/nospark (shorter is sometimes better)
  • disabled automatic word wrapping and added option to (re)enable it
  • added name format string keyword trunc<cnt> to truncate the spellname to cnt characters
  • changes to how channeled spell tick extension are handled, changed default settings for soothing mist

Gnosis v4.46 02/26/2015
  • fixed a problem that would cause the new twitter functionality to fail

Gnosis v4.45 02/25/2015
  • toc bump for patch 6.1
  • better multistrike handling for channeled spells ticks
  • added resource : burningembers_decimals

Gnosis v4.44 01/21/2015
  • added startcntcpy option (for counters)
  • added internal tracking of cooldowns when a cooldown timer bar is active to prevent cooldowns ending early when
  • a global cooldown is triggered
  • minor internal tweaks

Gnosis v4.43 01/12/2015
  • added runetype=x option for runecd timer configurations
  • fixed global cooldown issues with some spells (Insanity)
  • added additional documentation

Gnosis v4.42 01/09/2015
  • timer bars: cast command will now show the non-interruptible status
  • changes to documents

Gnosis v4.40 01/05/2015
  • added documents regarding timer bars (howto timers, cheatsheet)
  • new features
    • added commands npc, exit, charspec, glyph, talent
    • added feature to start a counter (command counter, optional keywords startcnt, stopcnt)
    • new logical operators & (and), ? (relaxed and), * (or)
  • changed and fixes
    • changed combo point tracking due to WoD changes
    • fixed text alignment when not using automatic text resizing
    • newly created bars will have automatic text resizing disabled
    • fixed a problem with spec=1|2 timer option in combination with logical operations

Gnosis v4.33 12/04/2014
  • changed default amount of Mind Flay and Insanity ticks to four (Enhanced Mind Flay passive)

Gnosis v4.32 11/12/2014
  • final pre WoD update
  • added option to show/hide bars only while inside/outside (specific) instances
  • minor tweaks and fixes

Gnosis v4.31 11/09/2014
  • updated channeled spells settings for Drain Soul and Divine Hymn
  • minor fixes and improvements

Gnosis v4.30 10/31/2014
  • WoD related tweaks
  • added a few sound files

Gnosis v4.25 10/15/2014
  • toc bump and changes for patch 6.0.2
  • added sub-commands aurastacks=# and auraeffect=# to show stack count/effect value instead of duration (with a maximum value of #)
  • added sub-commands mcnt=# and msize=#.# : latency tick markers are used to break up the bar into mcnt pieces, e.g. to display combo points; the default value of msize is msize=1.0 (which is the maximum value); decreasing msize will decrease the tick marker size (valid values are 0.0 < msize <= 1.0); only works for multi-spell timers

Gnosis v4.20 10/27/2013
  • added new import/export format (though, previously exported scripts can still be imported)
  • added bar chat hyperlinks (to share castbar/timer bars ingame)
  • shift clicking the 'new (icon-like) bar' button will create an icon-like bar
  • added group/raid-wide buff/debuff tracking command
    • groupdot/groupdebuff : debuffname/spellid
    • grouphot/groupbuff : buffname/spellid
    • groupaura : auraname/spellid
  • added resource commands:
    • resource : xp (shows player experience)
    • resource : rested (shows rested experience left)
  • added timer bar option to play sounds/music/files
    • 'plays' for sounds, 'playm' for music and 'playf' for files (see Combattext/Cliptest tab to see available sounds/music)
    • plays="3.0-MONEYFRAMEOPEN" will play the MONEYFRAMEOPEN sound at most every 3.0 seconds
  • minor tweaks and changes

Gnosis v4.10 10/13/2013
  • added timer spell commands
    • gcd : spell(id)/any (shows general global cd or of specific spell)
    • unitname : exact unitname/any (shows name of unit for any or if selected unit matches given unitname fully)
    • spellknown : spell(id) (shows spell if currently known == in spellbook)
    • icon="spell(id)" (overrides shown icon)
    • portrait="unit" (overrides shown icon with portrait of given unit)
    • shown="barname" (entry only valid if bar "barname" is currently active/shown)
    • hidden="barname" (entry only valid if bar "barname" is currently not active/shown)
  • added configuration interface improvements
  • changed command "cast : all" to "cast : any"
  • added default monk channel support: fists of fury and soothing mist (channeled spells can be manually changed or added)
  • minor optimizations, changes and fixes

Gnosis v4.05 09/11/2013
  • toc bump for patch 5.4
  • minor changes

Gnosis v4.03 07/07/2013
  • fixed a problem related to moving while casting
  • minor changes and fixes

Gnosis v4.02 05/22/2013
  • TOC bump for patch 5.3
  • added and updated libraries for new potential goodies

Gnosis v4.01 03/19/2013
  • "Release Spirit" fix
  • added new GCD Indicator (for non casttime spells)
  • added name and time format string options (new keyword effect == aura effect value, also txeff<>)
  • added Boss 5 unit
  • added mastery tick handling for channeled spells
  • minor optimizations and bug fixes

Gnosis v4.00 03/06/2013
  • toc bump for patch 5.2
  • changed default look of newly created bars
  • added new default castbar texture and font
  • upped maximum spark width and height to 1500%
  • internal changes for easier importing/exporting of bars
  • added range check to timer bars (resource : range) using LibRangeCheck-2.0
  • added support for Mind Flay (Insanity) channeled spell
  • using LibDialog-1.0 to prevent possible tainting of static popups

Gnosis v3.26 11/28/2012
  • fixed a bug when creating default GCD/swing timers
  • toc bump for patch 5.1

Gnosis v3.25 11/02/2012
  • IMPORTANT: exit your WOW client before updating. do not downgrade, otherwise you will lose your character specific settings.
  • added support for malefic grasp and spinning crane kick
  • changed the way character specific configurations are stored
  • minor adjustments

Gnosis v3.23 10/05/2012
  • added synonyms for icd command (innercd and proc)
  • added norefresh option for innercd/proc command (disables duration refresh while timer is already active)
  • added full icon support for innercd/proc command

Gnosis v3.22 09/27/2012
  • fixed bug that could prevent bars from showing

Gnosis v3.21 09/24/2012
  • fixed spark misalignment bug for vertical power/resource timers
  • minor improvements and optimizations

Gnosis v3.20 09/05/2012
  • fixed tainting of global variable '_' (fixing glyph insertion problem)
  • added tracking of combo points (resource : combopoints)
  • added tracking of multiple resources (resource : soulshards, eclipse, holypower, chi, shadoworbs, burningembers, demonicfury)

Gnosis v3.12 08/30/2012
  • initial release for patch v5.04

Gnosis v3.11 12/27/2011
  • fix: latency box size not changing correctly

Gnosis v3.10 12/22/2011 - Merry Christmas and a happy new year
  • added command "icd" to track procs/inner cooldowns
  • added option to treat channeled spells as normal casts
  • made sure castbars start to fade as soon as the cast finishes
  • /gnosis bar="bar name" text="..." time=10 allows to manually create a timer

Gnosis v3.03 11/30/2011
  • toc update for 4.3
  • minor optimizations

Gnosis v3.02 08/23/2011
  • implemented Ace3 related band-aid

Gnosis v3.01 06/29/2011
  • toc update for 4.2
  • WoW API related change (CLEU)
  • corrected default tick amount of Evocation (Mage)

Gnosis v3.00 06/03/2011
  • timer changes
    • removed nodur keyword (not required anymore)
    • added logical and/or keywords
    • added conditions <lower bound value, upper bound value, lower bound stacks, upper bound statcks>, e.g. resource:power<0,50> or resource:power<50%,100%> or buff unit=player:Shadow Orbs< , ,2>
    • added resource:threat (amount of stacks: 3 tanking, 2 insecurely tanking, 1 higher threat than tank, 0 lower threat than tank)
    • added commands to track weapon imbues and poisons (enchmh, enchoh), e.g. enchmh : Instant Poison
    • replaced "harmful" and "helpful" commands with "harm" and "help" (both are supported, use the shorter ones in the future)
  • added option for additional castbar border (not including icon)

Gnosis v2.80 05/08/2011
  • added full support for patch 4.1 channeling
  • redone clipping detection
  • added options for top and bottom icons
  • changed how bars display text/icon when "shown when not casting"
  • multi-spell timers changes
    • added hidespark command (hides castbar spark)
    • added incoming heal tracking (resource:heal)

Gnosis v2.70 04/30/2011
  • added tracking of totem durations (totemdur:1..4 command)
  • timer related behavioral corrections
  • minor optimizations

Gnosis v2.65 04/27/2011
  • patch 4.1 related updates
  • added sbcol="r,g,b,alpha" command to multi spell timer bars

Gnosis v2.61 04/08/2011
  • removed default font selection (Desyrel, which is packaged with Gnosis)
  • added cursor anchoring to timer bars
  • time format string related fix

Gnosis v2.60 04/06/2011
  • multiple minor additions/changes/fixes
  • major performance optimizations

Gnosis v2.53 02/16/2011
  • new timer bars commands
    • zoom=x (zoom bar if less than x remaining)
    • nodur (enables displaying of buffs/debuffs without duration)
    • cast=all or spellname (shows casts)
    • resource:health or power or altpower (= e.g. sound value for Atramedes encounter)
  • optimizations
  • removed Drain Mana (since removed from the game)

Gnosis v2.52 02/05/2011
  • general bar changes
    • added talent spec option
  • timer bar changes
    • added command staticdur (force minimum time displayed by timer)
    • added rune cooldown tracking to timers (runecd command)
    • added spec=# (1/2) option to timers
  • cleaned up option mess

Gnosis v2.51 01/30/2011
  • timer bar changes
    • added name format string override (nfs command)
    • added dot/hot recast advise (recast command)
  • added option to enable shield icon around cast icon for non interruptible spells
  • multiple optimizations

Gnosis v2.50 01/16/2011
  • added Multi-Spell Timers (see addon description for more information)

Gnosis v2.10 01/10/2011
  • added text rotation

Gnosis v2.08 12/23/2010 - Happy Christmas
  • added Boss units (and targets thereof)

Gnosis v2.07 12/11/2010
  • fixed bug (maximized amount of ticks shown when extremely hasted to 15)

Gnosis v2.06 12/06/2010
  • added vehicle only castbar (pet/vehicle also shows pet casts)
  • added combined outline & monochrome font modifiers

Gnosis v2.05 11/11/2010
  • configuration system updates
  • minor spell pushback changes

Gnosis v2.04 10/30/2010
  • fixed castbar anchoring problem
  • added option to hide/show castbar depending on group layout
  • minor tradeskill merge & spell pushback code changes

Gnosis v2.03 10/19/2010
  • fixed minor bug related to spell pushback of channeling spells
  • reworked channeled spells list
  • added warlock channels: health funnel and soul harvest
  • removed hunter channels: volley
  • slight change to default combat text output for aoe heal channels

Gnosis v2.02 10/16/2010
  • support for additional ticks on channels from haste (for priest and warlock spells, more coming soon, if needed)
  • multiple fixes

Gnosis v2.01 10/14/2010
  • options will not be created on startup, thereby reducing memory footprint extremely
  • added options to handle text shadow (offset and color)

Gnosis v2.00 10/12/2010
  • toc update to 40000
  • major performance optimizations
  • option to color target name by its class color (col<class> and col<cpre>)
  • correction to text alignments (especially CENTER)
  • disabled resizing of long strings for freely aligned text
  • removed rank commands from the default name format string

Gnosis v1.99 09/22/2010
  • compatible with wotlk 3.3.5, the cataclysm beta and the 4.0.1 ptr
  • added option to hide castbar while in/out of combat
  • added code to make sure introduction frame will be shown on character creation

Gnosis v1.98 09/01/2010
  • fixed bug with unlocked icons

Gnosis v1.97 08/31/2010
  • fixed bug preventing successful default castbar set creation

Gnosis v1.95 08/31/2010
  • reworked anchoring
  • added options to anchor to frame and mouse cursor
  • added overheal (oh) command to combat text output'
  • fixed error with critical heals not recognized for combat text output

Gnosis v1.92 08/02/2010
  • changed default cast interrupt color
  • added cast success color

Gnosis v1.91 07/22/2010
  • tracking of mouseover(target) added
  • option to show/hide castbars for casts of enemy/friendly units added
  • split up config gui for easier to find options

Gnosis v1.90 07/08/2010
  • implemented combat text merge for healing channels (please delete channeled heals from the channeled spells tab to get new settings for those spells)
  • corrected mirror bar fading behaviour

Gnosis v1.86 07/02/2010
  • tradeskill merge fix when crafting a single item

Gnosis v1.85 07/02/2010
  • tradeskill merge overhaul
  • option to hide blizzard pet/vehicle castbar
  • nolib creation added

Gnosis v1.80 06/12/2010
  • major performance enhancements
  • minor internal changes
  • added "who" to name format string (displays casting unit name)

Gnosis v1.70 06/06/2010
  • added support for any possible unit (...target), many of those are selectable as unit in the config gui
  • those units require additional scanning, most features like channeling support, spell pushback detection and interruptible status are available, spell interrupted and spell failed are not
  • renamed units in config gui
  • removed gcd_reverse unit (bar direction inversion should be enough)

Gnosis v1.60 06/04/2010
  • intro frame extensions
  • added bar orientation options (horizontal/vertical)
  • added invert bar direction option
  • rotatable icon
  • added newline (\n) command to name and time format strings
  • c<x> as new option for time format string = (total-remaining) time

Gnosis v1.52 05/25/2010
  • fixed bug removing unconverted castbar configurations after first logon with v1.50/v1.51

Gnosis v1.51 05/25/2010
  • intro frame after logon (ui reload) if no castbars configured and Gnosis is enabled
  • minor bug fixes

Gnosis v1.50 05/24/2010
  • saving character configuration data char specific reducing memory usage tremendously when playing with multiple chars; every time you log into a char old configurations will be converted if those exist
  • added function Gnosis:LoadConfig(name,bMainTab,bCastbars,bChanneledSpells,bClipTest) to allow for easier loading of configurations; might be useful for addon compilation authors or if you would like to be able to load configurations with macos; example: /script Gnosis:LoadConfig("DefaultConfig",false,true,false,false) to just load castbars from configuration "DefaultConfig"
  • added following locales: zhCN (simplified) & zhTW (traditional Chinese), thanks to wowuicn * koKR (Korean), thanks to talkswind & yuk6196 * ruRU (Russian), thanks to StingerSoft * you can chose between all locales on the Gnosis config gui main tab
  • right clicking unlocked castbars will open the castbars config gui
  • moved Gnosis to curseforge svn, grab your alphas there if you like

Gnosis v1.40 05/18/2010
  • german localization added (thanks to Xploder from Kil'Jaeden EU)
  • added option (main config tab) to switch between locales
  • new castbar spark options (color, width, height), slightly changed default spark look
  • new layering of statusbar, latency tick boxes and castbar spark

no new feature releaes coming in the near future! only bugfixes and adding of localizations.

Gnosis v1.34 05/16/2010
  • fixed bug hiding latency box if channeled tick displaying was disabled while channeling
  • added button on main config tab to create standard castbar set (player, target, focus, pet and mirror) for a quick start for new players -> just move bars and lock them if you don't want to configure the bars
  • minor performance improvements

Gnosis v1.33 05/15/2010
  • added time format string
  • ready for localization, if anyone wants to provide a full set of localized strings I'd be happy to add those and your name to the Gnosis description page

Gnosis v1.32 05/11/2010
  • fixed bug preventing loading from multiple stored configurations
  • added option to change border size of unlocked icon

Gnosis v1.31 05/09/2010
  • option to unlock, move and scale castbar icon
  • cleaned up small parts of the code

Gnosis v1.30 05/08/2010
  • new default bar look (including font)
  • additional options for castname/casttime/latency text alignments
  • easier bar- & textcolor editing options
  • minor internal tweaks & fixes

Gnosis v1.27 02/28/2010
  • added option to hide Gnosis text output
  • castbars/channeled spells/config sorted by name
  • added option to name format string to show remaining item count when tradeskill merging
  • added option to control minimum gap between castname and casttime (with enabled option to automatically reduce size of long strings)
  • main tab settings and combattext/cliptest settings can be stored in configurations as well

Gnosis v1.26 02/23/2010
  • added missing channeled spells (Evocation, Drain Life, Drain Mana, Hurricane, Volley)

Gnosis v1.25 02/09/2010
  • slight change to clipping detection and tick combining to fix problems with arcane missiles and similar spells (do not use clipping detection for spells like AM!)
  • drain soul (and similar spells) clipping detection and tick combining now correctly supported

Gnosis v1.24 02/08/2010
  • fixed melee swing for druids while shapeshifted

Gnosis v1.23 02/06/2010

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Thizzelle
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i like the addon alot anyway to cut back on the mem usage?
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Originally posted by Thizzelle
i like the addon alot anyway to cut back on the mem usage?
You shouldn't ever worry about memory usage by an AddOn when you don't develop AddOns yourself. Only when you see your framerate dropping by a large amount should you contact the author and tell him about memory.

Gnosis uses Ace3 iirc and it could be that it's the first AddOn to be loaded by your wow installation. That's why memory usage is higher, as the libraries are taking memory as well.

Ontopic: Nice addon
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any planning to add support for showing whether the spell is interruptible or not?
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Meleeswing

Is there any reason the meleeswing bar shouldn't be working while in cat or bear form for a druid?
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Re: Meleeswing

Originally posted by Eckdahl
Is there any reason the meleeswing bar shouldn't be working while in cat or bear form for a druid?
I'd really appreciate if people would read the description saying:
Please post requests and comments on Gnosis' Curse website (at least if you want me to reply), I won't answer on wowinterface.
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...ls/gnosis.aspx

To your problem:

I'll look into it and eventually fix it (haven't had the opportunity to test Gnosis with a druid). Please post your next comments on curse (if it's not meant as information for wowinterface users).
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Originally posted by ragnarok00
any planning to add support for showing whether the spell is interruptible or not?
It's in there, srsly, at least if you have not disabled the border completey (i.e. border size 0). Non interruptible status is implemented as a border indicator, check out the castbar options for border colors.

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I am looking for a replacement to AzCastBar and one thing I would need is the ability to keep track (as separate cast bars) stealable buffs. ACB calls this TargetAuras and has a specific option called Show Stealable Buffs which when combined with Show Buffs and nothing else will show me bars for all the buffs the target has that are stealable. As a mage this is invaluable. Does your addon do something similar, and if not, can that feature be added?
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Originally posted by Annekynn
I am looking for a replacement to AzCastBar and one thing I would need is the ability to keep track (as separate cast bars) stealable buffs. ACB calls this TargetAuras and has a specific option called Show Stealable Buffs which when combined with Show Buffs and nothing else will show me bars for all the buffs the target has that are stealable. As a mage this is invaluable. Does your addon do something similar, and if not, can that feature be added?
I'm very well aware that both Quartz and AzCastbar (which take a modular approach to all their functionality) supply users with a lot more than castbars. That's no route I want to take Gnosis on, Gnosis is supposed to be a great castbar addon with support for stuff that has something to do with spell casting (like the channeled spell tick support and everything that can be derived from that).

What you are asking me to do is to implement a dot timer into Gnosis which I am completely unwilling to do (you are talking about castbars which are showing the target buffs but that's missing the point). There are multiple addons out there that supply users with awesome (de)buff/cooldown timers. And I admit I'm no fan of all in one addons. I prefer to pick addons which provide the exact features I'm looking for. I also think many people are afraid of using multiple addons for no good reason, nowadays most addons behave quite well performance wise.

Remark: People still seem to be unwilling to read the addon description saying that I won't answer on the comments section of wowinterface. I very well respect wowinterface but Gnosis main website is the curse(forge) one. If you have requests or comments which you want me to reply to post your comments on curse please. This will be my last reply here (which does not mean I won't read the comments on wowinterface from time to time, I just won't reply).

Have fun, hope you will find a way to also use Gnosis.
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Was going to replace AzCastBar with this beauty until I couldn't figure out how to align the cast time text to anywhere else but the default position at the right of the bar. Looks like I'll be sticking with ACB unfortunately.
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I really like your addon! If you have time at one point, I'd love to be able to move the spell name and casting time text above the cast bar. I overlay my cooldown line (fortexorcist) on the castbar and with the text there it just looks too messy.

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Unread 05-16-10, 10:44 AM  
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This is an awesome castbar, I love it! So much better than the other ones with their janky skins. This is nice and original.
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Can you edit border texture?
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Default configuration

Have you considered improving the "out of the box" experience of this addon? Personally, I think it would be much more useful if it came with a player castbar with a sane default configuration, and the blizzard castbar hidden, out of the box. Configurability is well and good, but many addons skimp on the default config (do dominos and bartender4 *really* think I want 8 actionbars in the middle of my screen? unlikely, at a minimum they could anchor to the screen edges by default...).
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Re: Default configuration

I'd still prefer if people would post requests on curse. But I'm always open to good suggestions how to do things better.

Originally posted by kergoth
Have you considered improving the "out of the box" experience of this addon? Personally, I think it would be much more useful if it came with a player castbar with a sane default configuration, and the blizzard castbar hidden, out of the box.
On the main config tab there's a button to create a standard set of bars most users probably want/need to have. What's hard to know is: what barsize do users prefer and were should those bars sit on the screen. Most users won't agree on those very basics.

What is a "sane" default configuration? What do you not like about the basic configuration of castbars? I'm always open for suggestions.

I'll consider creating those standard bars and hiding blizzard castbar/mirror bar on first start (per character).

Configurability is well and good, but many addons skimp on the default config (do dominos and bartender4 *really* think I want 8 actionbars in the middle of my screen?
Honestly I cannot really agree with you that Gnosis "skimps" on the default config. Sure, no bars are created, but that is exactly to not force something onto the user she does not want. On the other hand I put some thought into the default bar configuration (well, probably time showed me what I like). Again, what is it you do not like about default bar look? And I admit it might not be easy to configure name and time format strings, but those are configured rather complete out of the box. The rest should be straightforward, and most users probably don't see the need to edit many options.
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Re: Re: Default configuration

Originally posted by elchefe
I'd still prefer if people would post requests on curse. But I'm always open to good suggestions how to do things better.



On the main config tab there's a button to create a standard set of bars most users probably want/need to have. What's hard to know is: what barsize do users prefer and were should those bars sit on the screen. Most users won't agree on those very basics.
While that's certainly true, it's no more difficult to modify the bars than to create them. If that standard set are those most users want to have, then why do you force them to click that button at all? Just provide it configured that way -- they can always go into the options and configure / add / remove from there.

It usually makes sense to optimize for the common case, not the less common, and trying to cater to everyone is an exercise in frustration, but that's just my personal opinion In this case, it's lovely that it's this configurable, and you've done an excellent job with that, I simply think someone should be able to install the addon and test it out immediately without having to jump through hoops first.
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