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WowAceUpdater UAC Launcher  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)

Version: 1.0
by: deoradh [More]

The application is a small launcher program written to smooth the use of WowAceUpdater by Vista users who (smartly) have UAC enabled. If you're not on Vista, this program probably isn't of any interest to you.

WowAceUpdater is distributed via Click Once. However, it is unable to bring up the UAC elevation prompt on its own. Instead, you have to go through the Run As Administrator context item. This launcher was built with a manifest to safely request UAC elevation, after which time it can launch WowAceUpdater unhindered. This manifest is a standard, supported mechanism in Vista for interacting with the UAC system.

On my computer, I added the launcher as a task in WoW's entry in the Game Explorer (Start > Games > World of WarCraft, right-click, Customize). I might put something together at some point to add this entry automatically, but that involves too much arcana at the moment.

Requirements: Vista (x86 or x64), .NET 2.0, WowAceUpdater via Click Once

Installation: Unzip the file, execute the setup program.

The launcher has not been tested on a system that doesn't have UAC enabled, nor has it been tested on non-Vista OSs. But then, if UAC isn't present, there's no reason to install this program.

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Unread 05-26-08, 07:51 PM  
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Originally posted by Sinbad
Either stop being a hypocrite and remove your Launcher that helps what is essential a hacker program run or back off about UAC being so great!
And I've been programming since '82, and have had zero problems with UAC. Further, WAU is patently *not* employing any sort of hack. It is, in fact, using 1-Click, which is a completely supported and *RECOMMENDED* means of deployment created and promoted by the very folks who brought you UAC. And -- you'll just have to take my word for it -- there are much more security-critical pieces of software (read -- HR-level) being deployed with 1-Click than WAU.

The real problem is that Blizzard has chosen to drop their addons folder under Program Files. That is something that no addon management software -- WAU or otherwise -- can work around.

Go back to school.
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Unread 12-21-07, 10:29 AM  
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Originally posted by deoradh
Your hyperbole is inaccurate. I don't get any UAC prompts when copying files between machines, renaming files or folders, nor when I use the restroom. I only get it when I try to alter protected sections of the file system such as Program Files, the area traditionally (if, in the end, dubiously) used to store program-specific data. This is correct and proper behavior, done in a way that avoids spoofing (which sudo does not).

You also demonstrate a very limited concept of users. I've been programming since about 1982; I was using Linux by around 1994. I am hardly "average Joe", yet I'm not annoyed by UAC. I like it -- a lot -- just as I like the "unsafe" declaration in C#: it forces me to take responsibility for what I'm about to do, and to not be lazy.

Functionally, UAC is precisely what is needed by the vast majority of computer users (whether or not they use Windows). Pedagogically, it is also annoying enough to force people to think about computer security. Abdicating such thought is foolish; advocating against it is irresponsible.

That said, this is by far *not* the forum to have this debate. As I implied above, if you don't use UAC, this is not for you.

End of discussion.
I hate to tell you this, but I have been programming since 1975 and I have nothing BUT problems with UAC and think it is a piece of junk! It is constantly interfering when I try to copy files and asking me three or MORE times to confirm a simple operation that should not require ANY confirmation and did not require any confirmation prior to the implementation of UAC.

As for your Launcher to allow the use of the WoWAceUpdater, I STRONGLY advise everyone NOT to use WoWAceUpdater because IT uses techniques which NO honest utility program would use and ONLY a hacker program or a core system program would be likely to use. If a program is NOT part of the Operating System, then it has NO business hiding its files from the user and that is EXACTLY what WoWAceUpdater does! Thus, UAC SHOULD detect and block IT and using your Launcher to help get it past UAC is just defeating the system's PROPER defense mechanism.

Either stop being a hypocrite and remove your Launcher that helps what is essential a hacker program run or back off about UAC being so great!
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Unread 11-03-07, 05:20 PM  
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Originally posted by Tekkub
The users out there that know what they're doing, the ones that havn't gotten a virus or spyware in years, they're the ones that get annoyed by the goddamn thing popping up when they try to copy a file to another computer on their network, or they think about going to the bathroom...
Your hyperbole is inaccurate. I don't get any UAC prompts when copying files between machines, renaming files or folders, nor when I use the restroom. I only get it when I try to alter protected sections of the file system such as Program Files, the area traditionally (if, in the end, dubiously) used to store program-specific data. This is correct and proper behavior, done in a way that avoids spoofing (which sudo does not).

You also demonstrate a very limited concept of users. I've been programming since about 1982; I was using Linux by around 1994. I am hardly "average Joe", yet I'm not annoyed by UAC. I like it -- a lot -- just as I like the "unsafe" declaration in C#: it forces me to take responsibility for what I'm about to do, and to not be lazy.

Functionally, UAC is precisely what is needed by the vast majority of computer users (whether or not they use Windows). Pedagogically, it is also annoying enough to force people to think about computer security. Abdicating such thought is foolish; advocating against it is irresponsible.

That said, this is by far *not* the forum to have this debate. As I implied above, if you don't use UAC, this is not for you.

End of discussion.
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Unread 11-03-07, 04:51 PM  
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Originally posted by Tekkub
sudo is less of a pain in my ass than WAU is.
I believe WAU should be UAC in the last post or?

Anyway, I'm a power user and I still have UAC on, because even if it can be a pain in the ass (like cleaing up the all users start menu or creating a folder and renaming it in restricted directories) I don't see it very often now that I'm settled. So its an extra security layer that works, even if it could have been implemented better.
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Unread 11-03-07, 03:09 PM  
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sudo is less of a pain in my ass than WAU is. And I'm not trying to start a "religious war" here, I use both Vista and Linux, I'm hardly a fanboi of either.

The reason I commented was because you inmplied that the smart users turn WAU on. I think the case is more the opposite, since the feature is on by default. The "average joe" users live the annoying thing because they don't know how to turn it off. The users out there that know what they're doing, the ones that havn't gotten a virus or spyware in years, they're the ones that get annoyed by the goddamn thing popping up when they try to copy a file to another computer on their network, or they think about going to the bathroom...

WAU is a good idea, that's for sure... but MS erred far FAR on the side of caution, and the user suffers for that. My linux box really only bothers me for my password when I'm trying to install software or mess with system settings, it doesn't try to protect me from the other computers on my own network.

One could liken the linux version to a decent bike helmet in case you fall off, where the MS version is more like those parents that dress their kids up in so much padding they can hardly walk, let alone peddle a bike.
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Unread 11-03-07, 02:29 PM  
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Originally posted by Tekkub
"who (smartly) have UAC enabled"

HAHAHA! First damn thing I turn off. MS needs to look at *nix a bit harder and get "sudo" right.
sudo is "right"? That's your opinion. And a laughable one at that.

Keep your religious war on slashdot and out of my comments.
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"who (smartly) have UAC enabled"

HAHAHA! First damn thing I turn off. MS needs to look at *nix a bit harder and get "sudo" right.
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