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Elitist Group  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)

Version: v1.7.6
by: Shadowed [More]

Elitist Group's goal is to shift focus away from single scores which don't tell you anything about the users choice of gear. Instead of a single score, Elitist Group shows you a variety of data from the players experience per dungeons and raid (can be broken down by boss), to whether their choice of equipment, enchants or gems fit their spec. You can still see the players average item level as well, but it's not the primary focus and only there to give you an idea of a players gear.

All user data will be compressed on logout to keep the database size more manageable. However, a variety of database management options are included to delete data after a certain period of time, or not save data on people from another server.

Interested in people being able to see your mains experience or request your data, but don't want the entire addon? Take a look at Elitist Group Sender, which does nothing more than respond to experience or data requests.

Slash command: /elitistgroup (/eg) use /eg help for a list of slash commands.

Bugs? Suggestions? Items flagged wrong?
Easiest way to report anything is through the ticket tracker. Should you be reporting an item being flagged incorrectly, make sure you include as much details as to why it's wrong.

How are items categorized?
Based on stats. Spell Power is a caster item, Hit is for DPS, Strength is only for melee dps, Defense for tanks and so on. As you can see in the screenshots, you are given what an items type is. Whether an item is allowed or not is based on spec, meaning Holy Paladins will be flagged for wearing Retribution gear, but a Retribution Paladin will not.

If somebody is missing an enchant or gem, Elitist Group will also tell you that.

Summary
To speed up checking out your raid or dungeon group, you can use /eg summary. It will quickly inspect everyone in your group and give you a summarized report on the status of their gear, enchants and gems.

Player notes
Finished a dungeon, was your tank amazing? Notes will allow you to rate him 1 - 5 and leave a comment for future reference, these can even be synced between your friends or guild. You can leave one note per person, with your most recent note being used. Use /eg rate to open this.

Dungeon experience
Quickly see how much experience a player has in a particular dungeon or raid, broken down by hard modes and even by pass. For raids, players are experienced after roughly 3 clears and for 5 mans it's around 6 (combined runs, not 6 of each). The scoring is setup to reward full clears. That way, somebody who can only clear the first 4 bosses of 25-man Trial of the Grand Crusader will have to do a lot more clears to be considered experienced, compared to the person who can full clear it.

To make it easier on players, achievements are factored into the experienced weighting. For example, A Tribute to Insanity and The Immortal will count for a full clear. Even doing 25-man Uldaur hard mods will increase your 25-man Ulduar normal mode experience.

No reason your alt should be left out of the fun because you haven't done a dungeon on the character yet. As of v1.5, you can setup a character as your main and whenever people request your data in Elitist Group they will see your mains experience. No more being left out because of an inexperienced alt!

Item level
To stop 200 item level blues being worth the same as 200 item level epics, simple modifiers are applied to item level based on quality: -0% epic, -5% blue, -10% green, -40% white, -50% grey. Heirlooms are considered 187 item level blues at 80, or 2.22 item level/per player level.

Suggested dungeons are the lowest item dropped -11% for 5-mans, -10% for normal 10 and 25 mans and a -9% modifier for heroic 10 and 25 mans.

Addon communication
Notes and player data can be synced. Players can request your gear or notes at any time; however, you can disable all communications entirely so you will not send or parse to them. Finer control over what channels to monitor is also included in /eg config, you can set it to not listen for gear requests from party or raid, but still in guild.

While in combat, you will not send or parse comm messages.

To prevent people from corrupting your database, Elitist Group will not accept other players gear data unless the player themselves sent it (Johnny can send his gear data, Steve cannot send Johnny's unless Steve is on your trusted list).

As of v1.5, more complicated syncing has been added to allow you to send your entire user or notes database, see here for information.

Author: Shadowed <[email protected]>
Date: Wed Jun 30 22:09:07 2010 -0700
- Fixed the reported message when loading EA

Date: Tue Jun 29 13:15:50 2010 -0700
- Updated to 6 inspects/11 seconds
- Removed debug prints

Date: Mon Jun 28 23:10:07 2010 -0700
- Added throttling for tomorrows restart to inspection, following changes:
- On login (only shown once), a message is displayed explaining the changes, and blaming Gearscore if you see an unexpected amount of inspect throttled messages
- If you use /eg to inspect someone and you are throttled and don't have data, you'll get a message indicating you have X seconds until inspections are enabled
- Group scanning will account for the throttle and wait until more become available
- Added an option in /eg config that lets you "save" a certain number of inspections that the group scanner won't use, so you can still do normal inspections while the scanner runs
- Everything will take other mods inspections into account, in theory.

Date: Thu Jun 24 13:43:34 2010 -0700
- Added Ruby Sanctum info, the suggested numbers will be tweaked most likely, these will only be enabled if you are on 3.3.5
- Fixed leaked globals

Date: Wed Jun 16 20:07:18 2010 -0700
- Fixed invalid pattern match in group and individual player links
- Fixed talent #615 error in ElitistGroup.lua
- Fixed Scarab Broach being listed as dps, should be healer
- Fixed rare case where a cross server sync would show up as coming from your server

Date: Sun May 16 18:29:54 2010 -0700
- Updating localization is also good I suppose
- Fixed a rare error that can occur on inspection if a players talents are loaded incorrectly
- Added support for the group linking features to ElitistArmory

Date: Thu Apr 29 20:15:09 2010 -0700
- Fixed leaked global
- Fixed spaces not being replaced with a %20 for Elitist Armory URLs, was breaking Chatter linkifying
- Merge: 872c02f 3983f90
- Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/elitistgroup/mainline
- Summary inspects now prioritize those without data
- Added the ability to cap experience points from an achievement
- Synced the experience points with http://elitistarmory.com/experience
- Synced item overrides with Elitist Armory

Date: Thu Apr 1 21:46:42 2010 -0700
- Fixed an error when listing items by slot name rather than item name

Date: Mon Mar 22 09:27:03 2010 -0700
- Added an option in /eg config to reset the /eg summary inspect queue, by default this is disabled (It always processes the inspect queue even closed)
- Merge: ee085ef d5d1707
- Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/elitistgroup/mainline

Date: Sun Mar 21 10:09:12 2010 -0700
- Added Last Word override

Date: Fri Feb 26 16:38:27 2010 -0800
- Fixed an error in group_notes.lua:183 if the notes table wasn't created

Date: Thu Feb 25 14:55:20 2010 -0800
- Added an URL button which will let you link to people on ElitistArmory
- Reporting to chat will now mention that people can lookup their character in more detail on ElitistArmory.com
- Added Scourgebane as a Physical DPS enchant

Date: Mon Feb 15 10:06:45 2010 -0800
- Fixed an error if bad data was set in the database

Date: Sat Feb 13 09:32:19 2010 -0800
- Fixed error when somebody has a Shiny Shard of the Flame/Scale and the other version of it

Date: Fri Feb 5 12:51:56 2010 -0800
- Trying a fix if itemQuality returns nothing, although this shouldn't happen

Date: Tue Feb 2 15:56:19 2010 -0800
- Added info on the main/alts feature when showing the welcome to EG message
- Fixed QueueUnit trying to scan the player

Date: Sun Jan 31 09:45:53 2010 -0800
- Fixed error in scan.lua:444 when using group notes
- Moved to a single OnEnter/OnLeave function
- Updating data will reset who scanned it, fixes scanned by data being "stuck" if somebody synced it

Date: Sat Jan 30 23:37:58 2010 -0800
- Added widget builder, might as well given how much custom UI stuff I'm doing
- Exposed talent texts
- Added hook in for Elitist Group Leader if it's loaded to /eg
- Added support for reporting to custom chat channels
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Unread 01-06-10, 05:36 PM  
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That's already what happens, look at the top right when you mouseover an item.
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Unread 01-06-10, 10:55 PM  
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Originally posted by Shadowed
That's already what happens, look at the top right when you mouseover an item.
Understood, but I don't know if it's my font or if it's the length of the word, prehaps it'd be better to use a shorter word. Having "Enhancme..." all the time looks a little tacky ;-)
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Unread 01-06-10, 11:00 PM  
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It's either your font or you're using an old version. It shows the full "Enhancement" for me.
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Unread 01-07-10, 07:04 AM  
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Originally posted by Shadowed
It's either your font or you're using an old version. It shows the full "Enhancement" for me.
It might also be my scale/resolution. I'm running at around 0.8 scale at 1680x1050. ;-)
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Unread 01-07-10, 08:43 AM  
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Hi Shadowed. Thanks for great addon. How can i add comment for people with whom i am not in party anymore? E.g. i understood that tank in random heroic is unadequate and leaved. I can't find any option to do this.
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Unread 01-07-10, 11:33 AM  
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/rate will let you leave a rating even after somebody left a group before it finished, or you leave before it's ifnished.
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Unread 01-07-10, 11:47 AM  
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Tooltips clash with EquipCompare

I noticed that the tooltips in EG that show gem/enchant information tend to clash with EquipCompare. When I mouse over an item in EG, EquipCompare activates and shows my companion item to the one in EG. EG then puts its tooltip "under" the EquipCompare addon.

Any ideas on how to suppress or alter the tooltips in some way that they might work together?
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Unread 01-07-10, 11:59 AM  
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Ugh stupid. Can you link the mod
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Any chance to edit the notes on a player after leaving the group?

thanks in advance,
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JohnDoe03: You can already edit notes through /rate up until the point where you join another group.

xythian: I'm probably going to shift tooltips around so the info is shown first, but the reason you see the comparison tooltip all the time is you have it set to always show.
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looks cool will give it a go tommorow, have you thought about having ur interface being ldb rahter than /commands? would def guide me to using it.
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LDB plugin is already in the next push which will likely be later tonight.
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Awesome addon, I love it.

A few things I have noticed running it in our raid last night:

Mjolnir Runestone - not a tank item (called as a bad item for a Hunter)
Needle-Encrusted Scorpion - not just a ranged item (Death Knight)
Totem of Electrifying Wind - not just a DPS (Caster) item, there is an enhance talent which lets you use this from time to time: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51532 - I was told this is the BiS totem without spending emblems on the 264 one.
/eg summary - it would be great to be able to use it outside of instances.

And then one request:
Allow the addon to show which alts are of linked to main when toggled on. For example, if I would login to my main you could show a list of my alts and add a checkbox next to them whether I want people to see a link to my main's gear or not and to show them shared rating/notes, that way they could always check out how experienced I am on other characters.
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Unread 01-08-10, 01:19 AM  
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The first two were fixed already in the version pushed a few hours ago, I added a manual override for the totme.

/eg summary doesn't work outside of an instance because you need to be within range to inspect people. I suppose I could swap it to work as long as you are in a group thought.

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It's not that I don't want to do this, it's that it's not an easy thing to implement cleanly. The problem is trust and verifiability, there is no way to prove that X is Ys alt. While right now you can fake your own gear and send that to someone, it's easy to verify if the info is false as soon as they are within inspect range.
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