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Works with 3.3

Author:	danltiger [More]
Version:	1.20
Date:	04-24-2010 05:00 AM
Size:	115.15 Kb
Downloads:	11,091
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Tidy Threat: Small enough for a gnome, tough enough for a tauren..

New: GUI Configuration, under the Addon Options menu.

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Tidy Threat: Mouseover threat measurement

OR, use the new GUI configuration panel!

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Tidy Threat... the ORIGINAL highly-suggestive interface element! Long before EPEEN was even an itch in Blizzard's pants, Tidy Threat was deflowering hundreds of monitors with vertically-endowed prowess.

Tidy Threat is a simple threat monitor which is simple enough for a new player to understand, yet powerful enough for a raid tank (like me!).

Simple explanation:
As you attack on an enemy, the statusbar grows upward indicating how much of a threat you are. If you reach the mark on the thermometer, the enemy will attack you. As you continue to gain threat, the bar will also continue to rise, indicating the amount of threat that you'd need to lose for the enemy to attack someone else.

More Complex Explanation:
The status bar shows your threat compared to the next-highest threat for the rest of your group. If you are the top threat holder, it will also show how much your threat exceeds the next highest. In other words, if you are tanking and the bar extends above the line, into the red, you've got solid aggro.

Here's the two rules:
If you're DPSing: Don't go into the RED!
If you're tanking: Stay in the RED!

No mode changes are required for Tank vs DPS usage; The interface is dual purpose. For additional data, players can enable the Detail Window, which will display real threat numbers.

Tidy Threat also adds threat data to your tooltips, allowing you to read AoE threat via mousing over the unit. (See the screenshot)

Options
In addition to the interface panel (Under the Interface>Addons screen), Tidy Threat can be configured via command line:

'/ttt autohide' will hide Tidy Threat while not in combat.
'/ttt show' will show Tidy Threat, and disable auto-hide.
'/ttt detail' will enable the popup detail window.
'/ttt sound' will enable the High Threat warning sound.
'/ttt lock' will lock the position of Tidy Threat.

Change Log - Tidy Threat

1.6:
* Fade and Mirror Image should display somewhat properly, now :-D
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1.5:
* Modified /ttt reset to flush the old variables... running that command should clear bad config data, which was resulting in LUA errors.
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I didn't do such a good job documenting changes.. oops
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1.1:
* Now saves position/visibility/lock between sessions! :-D
* Threat Lead extension bar range has been changed from 33% to 68%.
* Clamped to screen area
* New command: /reset

Optional Files - Tidy Threat

File Name	Version	Size	Author	Date	Type
TidyLDB	3.3.1	11kB	Danno	12-07-2009 10:28 PM	Patch

Archived Versions - Tidy Threat

File Name	Version	Size	Author	Date
Tidy Threat	1.15	122kB	danltiger	12-28-2009 03:11 PM
Tidy Threat	1.14	122kB	danltiger	12-27-2009 08:09 AM
Tidy Threat	1.13	122kB	danltiger	12-26-2009 03:44 PM
Tidy Threat	1.12	122kB	danltiger	12-26-2009 09:48 AM
Tidy Threat	1.11.1	71kB	danltiger	12-10-2009 05:53 AM
Tidy Threat	1.11	54kB	danltiger	11-11-2009 06:12 AM
Tidy Threat	1.10	54kB	danltiger	10-04-2009 10:26 AM
Tidy Threat	1.9	53kB	danltiger	08-15-2009 10:04 PM
Tidy Threat	1.8	53kB	danltiger	08-04-2009 06:35 PM
Tidy Threat	1.7	53kB	danltiger	07-21-2009 04:11 PM
Tidy Threat	1.6	53kB	danltiger	07-15-2009 11:30 AM
Tidy Threat	1.5	53kB	danltiger	07-09-2009 09:24 PM
Tidy Threat	1.4	53kB	danltiger	07-02-2009 07:53 AM
Tidy Threat	1.3	53kB	danltiger	06-25-2009 12:44 PM
Tidy Threat	1.2	130kB	danltiger	06-24-2009 03:12 PM
Tidy Threat	1.1	129kB	danltiger	06-18-2009 09:51 AM
Tidy Threat	1	51kB	danltiger	06-16-2009 04:26 PM

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07-15-2010, 06:13 AM
sconley A Fallenroot Satyr Forum posts: 25 File comments: 20 Uploads: 0	The version on Curse is not the same as the one here.

05-07-2010, 09:41 PM

trclocke

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Quote:

Originally posted by danltiger
It's the percentage to reach aggro. This is a value determined directly from Blizzard's function, UnitDetailedThreatSituation(). It takes into account the ranged vs melee differences.

Absolutely beautiful. Thanks a ton for the help, and for creating this little gem. TidyThreat does exactly what I need, then, and unlike anything else I've found, it's actually compact (!) and fits seamlessly with my layout.

I've already played with the .tga files for the thread bars a little to make them more understated (specifically the square skin), and I'm going to see if with my limited knowledge of .lua scripting I can figure out how to adjust the width of the threat bar itself, since I'd prefer it at about half of where it's at now.

Edit: got it. Man does that look good.
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9159/wowscrnshot050710225732.jpg

Edit 2: tanked a few raids the other day, and your solution for watching your threat lead as a tank works beautifully for me. I'm really glad to have this compact little bar replace massive addons like DTM or Omen.

Keep up the good work!

Last edited by trclocke : 05-12-2010 at 12:08 PM.

05-07-2010, 09:27 PM

danltiger

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Quote:

Originally posted by trclocke
Wow, fast response

So question, then - does the below-the-line bar just hang out at completely full between 100% threat and the percentage needed to have aggro (110% for melee, 130% for ranged)? Or is this extra threat accounted for?

;-)

It's the percentage to reach aggro. This is a value determined directly from Blizzard's function, UnitDetailedThreatSituation(). It takes into account the ranged vs melee differences.

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05-07-2010, 09:09 PM

trclocke

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Wow, fast response

Quote:

Originally posted by danltiger
I guess you could say that it's based on aggro, then.

So question, then - does the below-the-line bar just hang out at completely full between 100% threat and the percentage needed to have aggro (110% for melee, 130% for ranged)? Or is this extra threat accounted for?

Quote:

The bar above-the-line represents the relative amount of threat that you'd need to lose for the next highest person to gain aggro. If that red area is half full, then that essentially means You=100%, Next=66%. If that bar is 1/4 full, You=100%, Next=83%. If that red area becomes a sliver, get your finger on Taunt.

Ok, I think that makes sense. So if there is anything at all filled in that above-the-line section, you definitely have aggro on your current target. That's pretty useful.

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05-07-2010, 08:34 PM

danltiger

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Quote:

Originally posted by trclocke
Interesting. Thanks for the reply. Let me see if I'm understanding this correctly.

I assumed that being above that mark simply meant you were above 100% of the tank's threat. For example, melee DPS don't actually pull aggro until they reach 110% of the tank's threat, and ranged DPS don't pull aggro until 130%. Based on this, simply having more threat than the tank does not mean you're actually tanking, and (for example), a ranged DPS could have the above-the-line section nearly 1/3 full before the mob they're attacking comes after them.

Is the above not the case? Is the above-the-line section based on aggro rather than threat?

I guess you could say that it's based on aggro, then.

Quote:

Re: tanking, I'm not sure I follow how the above-the-line section tracks tank threat. If you have primary threat on a mob and it's attacking you, that doesn't automatically make the above-the-line section completely full? If not, say that section is 1/3 full, what does that mean exactly? The person behind you has 66% of your threat or something?

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05-07-2010, 06:42 PM

trclocke

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Interesting. Thanks for the reply. Let me see if I'm understanding this correctly.

I assumed that being above that mark simply meant you were above 100% of the tank's threat. For example, melee DPS don't actually pull aggro until they reach 110% of the tank's threat, and ranged DPS don't pull aggro until 130%. Based on this, simply having more threat than the tank does not mean you're actually tanking, and (for example), a ranged DPS could have the above-the-line section nearly 1/3 full before the mob they're attacking comes after them.

Is the above not the case? Is the above-the-line section based on aggro rather than threat?

Re: tanking, I'm not sure I follow how the above-the-line section tracks tank threat. If you have primary threat on a mob and it's attacking you, that doesn't automatically make the above-the-line section completely full? If not, say that section is 1/3 full, what does that mean exactly? The person behind you has 66% of your threat or something?

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Originally posted by danltiger
I appreciate the suggestion, but here's the thing; Tidy Threat already shows you the threat of the next highest member. Sort of. I'll explain...

See how there's a mark/line on the Tidy Threat meter? When you reach that mark, that means you've got aggro. (The bar is colored red above that line) For a DPSer, staying under that line is the only thing that matters. For a tank, you'll be interested in what happens above that line; It shows the difference in threat between you and that next-highest group member. In other words, it shows you your 'Threat Lead'. To keep the bar compact, it's a bit smaller than the rest of the bar, but its range is 68%. As a tank, you'll want to keep the bar as high above that line as possible.

No need for stance/form checking. Just a single bar, which tells you a heck of a lot.

05-07-2010, 06:01 PM

danltiger

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I appreciate the suggestion, but here's the thing; Tidy Threat already shows you the threat of the next highest member. Sort of. I'll explain...

See how there's a mark/line on the Tidy Threat meter? When you reach that mark, that means you've got aggro. (The bar is colored red above that line) For a DPSer, staying under that line is the only thing that matters. For a tank, you'll be interested in what happens above that line; It shows the difference in threat between you and that next-highest group member. In other words, it shows you your 'Threat Lead'. To keep the bar compact, it's a bit smaller than the rest of the bar, but its range is 68%. As a tank, you'll want to keep the bar as high above that line as possible.

No need for stance/form checking. Just a single bar, which tells you a heck of a lot.

Quote:

Originally posted by trclocke
I really like how compact Tidy Threat is. It's perfect for when I'm DPSing. It would be nice if it worked how bar4threat does for tanking, though:
http://www.wowinterface.com/download...ar4threat.html

The idea is to have a 'tank mode' where, assuming you're top on threat and tanking something, the threat bar is full (to show you're top on threat) but a different colored bar is overlayed on top of your threat bar to show the threat of the person closest to you in threat. If this were implemented I could use Tidy Threat for both tanking and DPSing.

It sounds like bar4threat decides you're tanking based on whether you're in bear form, defensive stance, or whether you have righteous fury or frost presence active. That would be a pretty easy way to tell if you're trying to be a tank.

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Last edited by danltiger : 05-07-2010 at 06:04 PM.

05-07-2010, 10:43 AM
trclocke A Kobold Labourer Forum posts: 0 File comments: 106 Uploads: 1	I really like how compact Tidy Threat is. It's perfect for when I'm DPSing. It would be nice if it worked how bar4threat does for tanking, though: http://www.wowinterface.com/download...ar4threat.html The idea is to have a 'tank mode' where, assuming you're top on threat and tanking something, the threat bar is full (to show you're top on threat) but a different colored bar is overlayed on top of your threat bar to show the threat of the person closest to you in threat. If this were implemented I could use Tidy Threat for both tanking and DPSing. It sounds like bar4threat decides you're tanking based on whether you're in bear form, defensive stance, or whether you have righteous fury or frost presence active. That would be a pretty easy way to tell if you're trying to be a tank.

04-29-2010, 05:36 AM
FlawedOne A Kobold Labourer Forum posts: 0 File comments: 5 Uploads: 0	its back and working thank you

04-27-2010, 05:14 AM

danltiger

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One problem down; That's a start!

If the threat bar doesn't show up, it could be a conflict with another addon. A simple way to test this out would be to disable all other addons, and run only Tidy Threat.

However, depending on the test conditions, you might not see anything, even with Tidy Threat working perfectly. If you're the only unit on the threat table, Tidy Threat won't appear. So, if you're testing things out while soloing, you'll want to use a hunter/warlock/DK with pet. If you don't have one of those classes, you'll want to enlist the aid of a friend.

If you still have problems after testing, it might be a good idea to delete the saved variables file for Tidy Threat. Look under your "World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\<ACCOUNT_NAME>\<REALM_NAME>\<CHARACTER_NAME>\SavedVariables" folder, and delete the "TidyThreat.lua" file.

Hope that helps!

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Originally posted by FlawedOne
Hi

Just tried the latest build and the error has gone

TidyThreat still does not show any threat though. The bar shows, but does not 'fill up' with colour to represent any threat.

Out of interest I selected 'show in combat' and it does not show when I engage a mob, so obviously does not know when I'm combat either.

Any ideas of what I could try and do to provide more details on why it has stopped working?

Could this be a conflict with another addon?

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04-27-2010, 02:59 AM
FlawedOne A Kobold Labourer Forum posts: 0 File comments: 5 Uploads: 0	Hi Just tried the latest build and the error has gone TidyThreat still does not show any threat though. The bar shows, but does not 'fill up' with colour to represent any threat. Out of interest I selected 'show in combat' and it does not show when I engage a mob, so obviously does not know when I'm combat either. Any ideas of what I could try and do to provide more details on why it has stopped working? Could this be a conflict with another addon?

04-25-2010, 07:21 AM

danltiger

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Oops! :-o

Fixed, now.

Quote:

Originally posted by Rilgamon
There is one of worst and biggest problems with this AddOn.
Your pledgie is no longer working

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04-24-2010, 05:30 AM
Rilgamon A Chromatic Dragonspawn Forum posts: 163 File comments: 90 Uploads: 21	There is one of worst and biggest problems with this AddOn. Your pledgie is no longer working __________________ 1001 AddOns

04-24-2010, 05:02 AM

danltiger

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Hmm....

Try "/ttt reset", and then /reload (to reload your UI).

Hope that helps!

Quote:

Originally posted by FlawedOne
Hi I got the error pasted below today.

However, even when I do the fix mentioned in other posts and get the graphic back, it refuses to show any threat even though I'm tanking and top of omen.

Obviously only myself and my guildmate have this problem. Is there a way to completly un-install tidy threat and start again?

Code:

Date: 2010-04-24 10:29:55 ID: 1 Error occured in: Global Count: 1 Message: ..\AddOns\TidyThreat\TidyThreat.lua line 409: Usage: <unnamed>:SetPoint("point" [, region or nil] [, "relativePoint"] [, offsetX, offsetY]) Debug: [C]: ? [C]: SetPoint() TidyThreat\TidyThreat.lua:409: TidyThreat\TidyThreat.lua:401 AddOns: Swatter, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) ACP, v3.3.3 AtlasLoot, vv5.10.01 AucAdvanced, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) AucFilterBasic, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) AucFilterOutlier, v5.7.4568.2531 AucMatchUndercut, v5.7.4568.2531 AucStatClassic, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) AucStatHistogram, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) AucStatiLevel, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) AucStatPurchased, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) AucStatSales, v5.7.4568.2842 AucStatSimple, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) AucStatStdDev, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) AucStatWOWEcon, v5.7.4568.2530 AucUtilAHWindowControl, v5.7.4568.3311 AucUtilAppraiser, v5.7.4568.2530 AucUtilAskPrice, v5.7.4568.3175 AucUtilAutoMagic, v5.7.4568.3142 AucUtilCompactUI, v5.7.4568.2530 AucUtilEasyBuyout, v5.7.4568.3583 AucUtilFixAH, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) AucUtilGlypher, v5.7.4568.2545 AucUtilItemSuggest, v5.7.4568.3108 AucUtilPriceLevel, v5.7.4568.2545 AucUtilScanButton, v5.7.4568.2530 AucUtilScanFinish, v5.7.4568.2530 AucUtilScanProgress, v5.7.4568.2530 AucUtilSearchUI, v5.7.4568.3655 AucUtilSimpleAuction, v5.7.4568.4553 AucUtilVendMarkup, v5.7.4568.2530 Babylonian, v5.1.DEV.130 Bartender4, v4.4.2 BeanCounter, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) BigBrother, v Broker2FuBar, v1.0 ClassLoot, vv1.7.1 Configator, v5.1.DEV.130 CurseProfiler, v DBMCore, v DebugLib, v5.1.DEV.130 Enchantrix, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) EnchantrixBarker, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) EnsidiaFails, v epgp, v5.5.16 epgplootmaster, v0.4.9 epgplootmasterml, v0.4.9 FuBar, v FuBarHealBotFu, v3.0.2-1.00 Gatherer, v3.1.14 Guild2Guild, v7.5.9 GuildLaunchCTRaidTracker, vv2.0.2 GuildLaunchProfiler, v00.08.00BETA GuildMailbox, v0.0.3 HealBot, v3.3.3.1 HitsMode, v4 LibRock10, v LoggerHead, v3.3.0.104 MailGet, v Omen, v3.0.9 oRA3, v PowerAuras, v3.0.0E Prat30, v3.3.8 Prat30HighCPUUsageModules, v Prat30Libraries, v RaidBuffStatus, v3.249 Recount, v SharedMedia, v3.0.1-177 SlideBar, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) Stubby, v5.7.4568 (KillerKoala) TidyPlates, v5.11.4 TidyPlatesGrey, v TidyThreat, v1.15 Vamp, v1.0 XPerl, v3.0.8 XPerlArcaneBar, v XPerlParty, v XPerlPartyPet, v XPerlPlayer, v XPerlPlayerBuffs, v XPerlPlayerPet, v XPerlRaidAdmin, v XPerlRaidFrames, v XPerlRaidHelper, v XPerlRaidMonitor, v XPerlRaidPets, v XPerlTarget, v XPerlTargetTarget, v BlizRuntimeLib_enUS v3.3.3.30300 <eu> (ck=979)

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04-24-2010, 04:59 AM

danltiger

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Ack! Not sure how I missed your original message, but I'm sorry.

I've got an update pending, so I'm hoping that fixes things for you.

Quote:

Originally posted by FlawedOne
Hi

I seem to have an issue since the new WOW patch last Wednesday. I can get Tidy Threat to show, but it does not change colour when I engage a mob, even though I maybe solo. Unfortunately I have not spotted any error messages from Tidy Threat, which I know is very unhelpful.

After the last wow patch I was having problems logging in, it was taking 2 attempts so I did update where ever possible the addons I use. That included downloading the latest version of Tidy Threat.

When i logged on Tidy Threat display had 'disappeared' typing /ttt show had no effect. I tried deleting the saved variables files that are in my char's folder along with one I found in general saved variables folder.

I have also tried with my other chars, the TidyThreat bar shows, but does not change colour when I go into combat, even though I am solo so have 100% threat. Typing /ttt detail does show 100% threat on nameplates though.

Sorry I cannot be more helpful, but is there anything you can suggest? If I re-install, what files should I delete?

Thank you for any help you can give

PS one of my guildies seems to have the same problem with a fresh install

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