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SpellTips is an addon that will modify your tooltips to show approximately how much damage or healing a spell will really do with +dmg/healing gear equiped. All tooltips are affected now, even pets (only water elemental's currently) and the trainer window are supported so you must disable it from the UI screen to see base values anywhere. It is simplistic by design and coded to be very efficient.

Plans:
- Find appropriate modifers for the spells currently supported. - ongoing effort
- Clean up code - ongoing effort
- Translation - need people to report errors and try to fix them
- Hope for Blizzard to realize what a mistake it is for them to not be doing this in the default UI and then get it done themselves so that the values will be truly accurate. - expected 9 months after I quit the game ;p

Known Bugs:
- Several spells have slightly inaccurate values due to lack of information, please test and give feedback.
- Empowered healing talents show much more than they actually give due to a flaw in a hack to fix the base value of heals which blizzard screwed up in 2.x
- Localization is up to users to help fix, if you notice something not working then look in the locale file for your language and fix the patterns to match the text for the spell correctly.
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Old 12-15-2008, 11:39 AM  
Fonjask
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Originally posted by eloora
Is this mod being updated for patch 3.0/WotLK? Or is there anything similar that's still being worked on?
Try DrDamage on wow.curse.com; it doesn't do exactly the same as Spelltips, but it does display the actual damage on the icon itself (just fiddle around with the options for a little while)
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Old 10-31-2008, 05:29 PM  
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Is this mod being updated for patch 3.0/WotLK? Or is there anything similar that's still being worked on?
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Old 08-07-2008, 09:35 AM  
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Translations still need updating to work correctly. I haven't gotten much feedback from people using other languages so I don't even know how well the translations had been working before. Database sites don't have the information I need for translating new spells so I need people to help do it. If you want things working for your class in your locale then please look in the SpellTable.en.lua file, copy it to your SpellTable.[locale].lua file over the old entries, and then translate it all yourself. The format is fairly easy to understand, just translate name, pattern, and pattern2. After you've checked and made sure it works for all spells then post it here or if you have trouble let me know.
How to translate the "pattern" and "pattern2"? I thought it was the string before or after the value,but I failed to using it in Chinese client.Maybe I misunderstand this.
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Old 07-19-2008, 05:05 PM  
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OK, well, it's jsut that when you say "Several spells have slightly inaccurate values due to lack of information, please test and give feedback." It would be hard for me to test, when I don't know/remember the base amount in order to see how much of an inaccuracy there is, but I will look elsewhere if I decide I need an addon like it again, thanks for the comment.
Testing is now directed at WotLK beta testers only as indicated by my "'complete enough' for BC" comment. You don't need to know the base values to tell if the tooltip is accurate, either it is or it isn't. If it isn't then you list all relevant info such as reported values, actual values, how you tested, what talents you have, etc.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:00 PM  
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That's outside my design philosophy ie. "keep it simple, stupid." For nearly 3 years the intent of this addon has been to seamlessly correct the default tooltip because blizzard hasn't cared enough to make them accurate.

I did entertain the idea of adding a command to suspend it which should be part of my overhaul but that's the closest you'll get from me. Bloat can go elsewhere.
OK, well, it's jsut that when you say "Several spells have slightly inaccurate values due to lack of information, please test and give feedback." It would be hard for me to test, when I don't know/remember the base amount in order to see how much of an inaccuracy there is, but I will look elsewhere if I decide I need an addon like it again, thanks for the comment.
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:37 AM  
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Is it possible to show the given value set (the base range I guess) then have the modified values out to the side, and have one of those sets in brackets or parentheses?
That's outside my design philosophy ie. "keep it simple, stupid." For nearly 3 years the intent of this addon has been to seamlessly correct the default tooltip because blizzard hasn't cared enough to make them accurate.

I did entertain the idea of adding a command to suspend it which should be part of my overhaul but that's the closest you'll get from me. Bloat can go elsewhere.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:20 PM  
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Is it possible to show the given value set (the base range I guess) then have the modified values out to the side, and have one of those sets in brackets or parentheses?
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Old 07-18-2008, 06:31 PM  
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It sounds like with the consolidation of spell damage and healing into spell power that blizzard will finally be fixing a bug with healing spell tooltips that was introduced in 2.0 and has lasted throughout BC. The bug being that talents which modify healing by a percentage wouldn't update the base tooltip. I've had a hack in to try to get it close but it was never quite right.

There haven't been many updates for this addon because it was in a state I considered "complete enough" for BC. With all the new spells for WotLK I will have a lot of work to be done nailing down coefficients and how talents interact with one another. Any help finding info and posting in these comments will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:33 PM  
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It sure would be nice to see this updated, I still use it although it's not truely accurate its better than nothing. Please update this mod soon.








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I believe it should be updated, the only other options for this kind of stuff i know are DrDamage and TheoryCraft but they have too many useless stuff in, that's what i like about Spelltips, so clean and straight to the point ;D
But with 2.3 this need to be updated with the new spell bonus given to Power Word: Shield an d all those Wards =/
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:59 PM  
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I believe it should be updated, the only other options for this kind of stuff i know are DrDamage and TheoryCraft but they have too many useless stuff in, that's what i like about Spelltips, so clean and straight to the point ;D
But with 2.3 this need to be updated with the new spell bonus given to Power Word: Shield an d all those Wards =/
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:25 AM  
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With 2.3 due out soon the accuracy of the healing spells at least, is a little off. On my priest on the PTR there is additional gains to Lightwell, Circle of healing which will have to be recalculated. I'm sure there are more but I've not been able to copy my pally/druid/shammy
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:48 AM  
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Any clue on about how accurate this is yet? Or should I continue waiting a while until more bugs and miscalculations are fixed.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:50 AM  
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Small bug

Prayer of Mending (level 68 Priest spell found here ) is having the "jumps" or hops calculated with the +healing bonus.

It should be only 5 jumps. And I have tested it with only this add-on enabled.

Other than that, keep up the good work
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:57 AM  
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Well I still haven't gotten any translation updates so I've changed the format to be simpler for other locales. All new spells still need translations and several old ones could use some polishing to make the captures work better. The project has always been flagged to allow others to upload files or you can just post them in the comments.

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Old 12-11-2006, 05:04 PM  
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Yes the spell translations still need updating as I said before. I was just telling you how to fix that additional error so you would be able to test your translations correctly.
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