Fishing Ace! is all the core goodness of Fishing Buddy distilled down into it's simplest form.
If you equip a fishing pole, you will get double-right-click casting. Optionally, Fishing Ace will turn on Auto Loot and it will set the audio values to maximize the sound of the bobber.
It's a standard Ace2 addon -- /fishingace or /fa for help.
Note: The word "Ace!" in the name of the addon has nothing to do with the fact that it uses Ace2 in its construction (although, it *does*, in fact, use Ace2). I just like the name and I think it's cool. If you don't like it, feel free to continue using Fishing Buddy! for all of its not-yet-implemented in Ace2 functionality (not that it uses any of the "Buddy!" system in its construction either);
Change Log - Fishing Ace!
Version 0.4.2i
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Optional Files - Fishing Ace!
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I have installed this...updated the toc...and when i tried to use it on my lock, nothing happened...no button...no way to make this work...i turned on auto lure...nothing...i turned on auto loot and action...it did not find an action button to work as this says it will...i have about 15 buttons for it to choose but it didn't choose any...am i doing something wrong...besides not using caps appropriately??
Last edited by trinkalou : 03-30-2008 at 05:44 PM.
Cool, I guess you really see the people here that take addons way too seriously.
I got that Fishing Ace referred to the correct term (as in, the Barren, the Ace, the best). Only thing that was misleading was reading a bit of these comments. Leave the poor guy a lone, he set out to improve a mod he likes to make it better for himself and is providing it to others out of his own free will, if you have an issue with the semantic surrounding the name of the addon you need to get a reality check.
Also, this talk of marketing for Ace? What the hell? Whether or not there's marketing for Ace, who cares?
At most you could ask him to replace the image with one of someone fishing, nothing more.
Clean it up guys. No rules on this website define what he can and can't use for an addon name, within proper taste of course. If or when someone from the Ace team raises this issue with us, we can't and will not do anything about it. If you are that concerned about it, please contact someone from the Ace team and ask them to submit a request. While I do not take sides nor do I state which party is correct in this argument you have going, I do believe that this is the wrong place to be taking care of it...
Originally posted by HouseWyrth Just saw that there was an update to FishingAce and thought I'd see if there was anything substantive about features on the page... and, I am instead greeted by all of this.
Hopefully I'm not speaking out of the side of my neck, but as I remeber the discussion when this project first started, over on the wowace wiki, the use of "Ace" in the name had NOTHING to do with using Ace2 to build it. It was being used with one of the other meanings of the word intended... you know, the one where it means that you're REALLY good at something.
It's just ridiculous that the first assumption made is that the author is somehow engaging in harmful commer******m. Maybe it would have been better to assume the best until you read substantive proof of anything else, not just the name of the Mod.
Noone needs proof of anything because its ABOUT the name.
That rule applies to addons hosted on wowace.com.
It's also not only about the name but also the decency to discuss this with the owner of wowace, since 1. its using their stuff and 2. they have a rule about naming.
Furthermore the current name ("Fishing Ace! An Ace2 (TM)(SM)(c) Addon") is unacceptable for obvious reasons.
Have been using this mod for quite some time w/o any problems. As of Thursday it doesn't work on my main char. For the others that fish, it works fine.
Getting zero error messages and everything is enabled, did a clean install twice. Mod is simply not doing anything on one character.
1) no auto lure
2)no casting when double clicking
3) have not installed any new mods
This frees up button slots for me so any help is greatly appreciated, tyvm in advance!
Just saw that there was an update to FishingAce and thought I'd see if there was anything substantive about features on the page... and, I am instead greeted by all of this.
Hopefully I'm not speaking out of the side of my neck, but as I remeber the discussion when this project first started, over on the wowace wiki, the use of "Ace" in the name had NOTHING to do with using Ace2 to build it. It was being used with one of the other meanings of the word intended... you know, the one where it means that you're REALLY good at something.
It's just ridiculous that the first assumption made is that the author is somehow engaging in harmful commer******m. Maybe it would have been better to assume the best until you read substantive proof of anything else, not just the name of the Mod.
Well... the comments have gotten a bit off track (or maybe I am on the wrong train). Is this a complete replacement for FB? I've always used FB and loved its functionality and Sutorix's support over the months (could be years).
Originally posted by Zidomo The final line was unneeded . I'm not going to start something here with publically "naming names". But I know at least one author that has made plain mention of using Dongle in their Googlecode SVN revision notes .
Yes.. I have.. because when I make a commit to an addon, updating Dongle.lua.. it shows up there. I meant every word of the final line, because I feel you are making hasty generalizations about a topic you don't even know half of the history about. Personal opinion? Sure.
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If you want to strongly discourage anyone referring to Dongle except in the code, yes fine, that's very much your right. I frankly don't see the problem with mod authors making mention of what they use for other libraries, though.
I detest fanaticism, in everything.
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Its same thing as a mod author who doesn't use any third-party libraries telling people in the mod description that they "have made optimizations to my mod to make its display of kitties more realistic". Its not "marketing", its telling people simple technical details.
And as a computer scientist, and a computer science teacher, I'm appaled with the way some people throw around the words "optimized" and "modular" without fully understanding the implications, or definitions of the words.
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I don't see that happening, so I can't see what's happening with Fishing Ace as "marketing" (other than the mod title). Others may disagree.
Please note I didn't say a word about Fishing Ace. I came here, because Dongle was being thrown around in an argument it didn't belong in, period.
SVN commit notes are _not_ the same as an addon description or title or picture. If you can't see the difference between a legitimate track of revision history in the development process, I don't know what more I can do.
Let's let these file comments get back on topic. This discussion doesn't belong here.
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Originally posted by Zidomo
[b]The final line was unneeded . I'm not going to start something here with publically "naming names". But I know at least one author that has made plain mention of using Dongle in their Googlecode SVN revision notes .
Pretty much all of us mention the library we use in our SVN revision notes. Thats because revision notes are NOTES FOR US FOR WHAT WE DID, the point of them is so if something breaks or we need to revert to an older file we know what changed at what revision, and for helping others who are working with the code.
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If you want to strongly discourage anyone referring to Dongle except in the code, yes fine, that's very much your right. I frankly don't see the problem with mod authors making mention of what they use for other libraries, though.
Because, we end up with exactly this problem you see in this mod, 10000 mentions to the library.
200 mentions to Ace only with an image is marketing.
Originally posted by Cladhaire Find me an addon that touts that its a "Dongle addon" and I will take care of it. It's absolutely not encouraged, and I actively fight it.
It's extremely important to me that an addon stand on its own regards, not sit as part of a marketing machine, by the way. Making hasty generalizations without knowing what you're talking about is a bad thing.
The final line was unneeded . I'm not going to start something here with publically "naming names". But I know at least one author that has made plain mention of using Dongle in their Googlecode SVN revision notes .
If you want to strongly discourage anyone referring to Dongle except in the code, yes fine, that's very much your right. I frankly don't see the problem with mod authors making mention of what they use for other libraries, though.
If someone is doing boosterism--"I'm using Kenny's Library because its the best/its small & efficient/it breeds cute kitties"--that's, IMHO, neither here nor there, as long as its accurate. I just don't see it mattering.
Its same thing as a mod author who doesn't use any third-party libraries telling people in the mod description that they "have made optimizations to my mod to make its display of kitties more realistic". Its not "marketing", its telling people simple technical details.
If, on the other hand, the main devs for that library are actually encouraging people to make large mention of the library in their mod descriptions, then yes, that might be "marketing". "Encouraging people" meaning regularly saying to do so in the Kenny's Library forums, putting up advice to do so in Kenny's Library wiki, encouraging authors to randomly criticize other libraries in mod descriptions, etc..
I don't see that happening, so I can't see what's happening with Fishing Ace as "marketing" (other than the mod title). Others may disagree.
Originally posted by Zidomo So says the dev who has moved to Dongle .
Many (many) mods make mention in their comments/description of the libraries they use in the code, Ace, Dongle or otherwise. Its not "marketing"; no problem there.
But yes, using "Ace" in a mod name is something that has been discouraged for a while by the library devs (since the switch to Ace2).
Find me an addon that touts that its a "Dongle addon" and I will take care of it. It's absolutely not encouraged, and I actively fight it.
It's extremely important to me that an addon stand on its own regards, not sit as part of a marketing machine, by the way. Making hasty generalizations without knowing what you're talking about is a bad thing.
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Originally posted by Zidomo So says the dev who has moved to Dongle .
Many (many) mods make mention in their comments/description of the libraries they use in the code, Ace, Dongle or otherwise. Its not "marketing"; no problem there.
But yes, using "Ace" in a mod name is something that has been discouraged for a while by the library devs (since the switch to Ace2).
Actually any author that showed off that they used Dongle in their mod description would be murdered by clad, saying "Switched to Dongle" or "Updated Dongle to latest version" in a changelog doesn't count, it's called SVN and keeping logs of what you're doing.
Having an image with "Ace" in it, having the title with Ace in it even in the Ace category, and then mentioning it as a standard Ace2 addon is marketing, and it's stupid and useless.
Originally posted by Zidomo So says the dev who has moved to Dongle .
Many (many) mods make mention in their comments/description of the libraries they use in the code, Ace, Dongle or otherwise. Its not "marketing"; no problem there.
But yes, using "Ace" in a mod name is something that has been discouraged for a while by the library devs (since the switch to Ace2).
this is exactly my point
It is none of your concern/business what I use to make my addons. stick to yelling at me whats wrong with it usability-wise.
Many (many) people are wrong in mentioning that they use some kind of backend as it IS marketing. period.
also, you mean "the addon devs" not "the library devs" and I know that it has been discouraged, I've been there from the start/been part of that decision.
As it stands right now today 9.9.07 this mod does.. 1 thing it replaces the normal bobber sound with "i saw a fish"..
It doesnt auto cast, it wont autolure, what exactly is the point of this mod? at least with fishing buddy you are tracking useful information etc.. here you are just wasting peoples time/memory space/etc. People may as well simply replace the sound effect in the data folder rather than load a mod to do it.
As for the name being fishing ace... that is really the last thing on the list thats wrong with this particular mod!
So in closing either fix the mod to do more than change the sound effects, or just pull it from distribution.
. I'm not going to start something here with publically "naming names". But I know at least one author that has made plain mention of using Dongle in their Googlecode SVN revision notes 
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