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Crystallyne 04-27-11 04:26 PM

Minimap Icons Flashing (Resolved with Patch?)
 
I installed the new 4.1 beta version of Carbonite this morning and so far I've only found one problem. And it didn't start right away. But after playing for several hours, the icons on my minimap began flashing erratically, which was driving me nuts.

At first I thought it was my graphics (I've had issues with my new graphics card) but after rebooting it didn't fix it. Then I noticed the flashing reminded me somewhat of the flashing glow on harvest nodes which Carbonite adds.

I went to Carbonite Options > Map Minimap and set "Minimap herb/ore dot glow delay (0 is off)" to 0. And the problem stopped instantly and completely!

Again it didn't start right away, and I'm not sure what caused it to start doing that. But it was making ALL my minimap icons flash erratically.

I have my regular game minimap set up with the carbonite minimap seperate, situated just below my minimap and usually zoomed out so I can see more of the regular map and use the default minimap for a more localized view. (If that makes sense.) I have the "Move Minimap into Carbonite map" option disabled.

Thanks for putting out the new beta version so quickly! I love having my nodes flashing at me to remind me they're there, so I hope you can resolve this issue!

Edit: I just thought of something, it's possible the icons that are flashing are things that I have checked off in my Tracking list. I like to leave Class Trainers, Innkeepers, Mailboxes, Reagents, and Repair tracking turned on, and all those icons were flashing. If needed I can check to see if it was other icons that show up by default as well.

Edit 2: Okay it isn't just items I'm tracking. I turned everything but fishing and mining tracking off, and it's flashing for a quest I'm about to turn in. And now that it's started doing this, it won't stop even after a reboot. :(

Ellarnia 04-28-11 11:40 AM

fix
 
go to carbonite options->map minimap
click on minimap herb/ore dot glow delay (just above minimap docks always box)
and set it to 0 or a longer interval as to not drive you crazy

Crystallyne 04-28-11 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellarnia (Post 235908)
go to carbonite options->map minimap
click on minimap herb/ore dot glow delay (just above minimap docks always box)
and set it to 0 or a longer interval as to not drive you crazy

*coughs a little* Quote from my original post:

Quote:

I went to Carbonite Options > Map Minimap and set "Minimap herb/ore dot glow delay (0 is off)" to 0. And the problem stopped instantly and completely!
So yeah, I did do that. Thanks though!! I'm just hoping they can fix this issue because I do like having my harvesting nodes flash at me, but not ALL my icons! :p

jeffy162 04-28-11 06:18 PM

I'm using the beta, and the odd thing about the flashing map icons, for me at least, is this: The character I am on lately, I have the Carbonite ore gathering icons enabled, and they do not blink. Every other icon on the map does, but those do not. I have not changed the option for the rate at which the active node icon blinks. It is still at "4". I also like to see the blinking active node indicator, so I just ignore the other blinking icons.

tripleozero 04-30-11 10:09 AM

It's not just node icons. When using tracking, all the tracking dots also flash nonstop. It's not the usual Carbonite node flash - it looks more like a graphic flicker.

This is very noticeable when using Track Humanoids in one of the major cities.

Disabling Carbonite removes the issue.

EDIT: Setting the herb/ore delay to 0 DID fix the problem with the tracking dots and other stuff flashing. Think jeffy might be on to something with the wrong icons flashing.

Barnaby B. Barclay 05-03-11 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripleozero (Post 236129)
It's not just node icons. When using tracking, all the tracking dots also flash nonstop. It's not the usual Carbonite node flash - it looks more like a graphic flicker.

I use Gatherer for node tracking, thus I have disabled Carbonite's similar function... I even have the entire Carbonite Nodes addon--it's separate from the main addon--set not to load. Like triplezero said, the flashing is not like the mining/herb node flash, instead it looks more like a random flicker.

Schattens 05-03-11 12:08 PM

I'm having the same problem, but it is just the Beta judging from the dev's previous track record they will get it smoothed out before they drop the accual update.

Crystallyne 05-03-11 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schattens (Post 236465)
I'm having the same problem, but it is just the Beta judging from the dev's previous track record they will get it smoothed out before they drop the accual update.

Agreed. :) Personally, I'm waiting patiently for the update, not doubting it'll come. It may take them time, but they have always come through. And the bugs are relatively minor and easy to deal with, for me.

Crystallyne 05-03-11 03:42 PM

Resolved?
 
Since this morning's patch, this issue seems to be resolved for me. My nodes are flashing correctly, and the other markers aren't flickering anymore. Perhaps Blizzard fixed something on their end that was interacting wrong with addons? Then again, this issue didn't show up right away for me, so there's a chance it may return. I hope not though!

Can anyone else confirm this issue seems resolved?

Edit: Ugh, I guess not. I had to reload my ui for another reason, and the flashing is back. Ah well, it was nice while it lasted. heh

Felwhisper 05-03-11 08:34 PM

Carbonite 4.1 beta 1
Mine still does it. My repair, flight master, arena master, food & drink and all icons flash; very irritating. i did the fix above but yea carbonite is making ALL icons on the map flash, not just herb & ore nodes.

jeffy162 05-03-11 10:36 PM

Seems to be working OK for me, too.

Edit: Well, until I reloaded the UI anyway. It was fun while it lasted, though.

Barnaby B. Barclay 05-05-11 04:23 AM

Update: the same flicker that is occurring on the minimap is visible on items in my bags with CDs: Hearthstone, etc., though NOT items on the character screen (trinkets and so-forth)

jeffy162 05-05-11 12:06 PM

Well, there was a "mini-patch" (for me, anyway) today, and it seems to have fixed the blinking minimap icons. I reset the active node indicator option in Carbonites options back to "0.4" and the only icon that was blinking was if I found an active node.

Reloading the UI didn't change anything. Nothing was blinking except the active node indicator.

Can someone confirm this, please?

EDIT: Never mind. A reload didn't do it, but a restart definitely did! It's BAAAAA-aaaaaaaack! :o

carboniteaddon 05-09-11 10:20 PM

The flickering minimap icons appear to be a game bug when changing the minimap texture file. I experimented and found a trick that appears to fix it. This will be in the next version, which is about done. I plan on releasing it tonight.

jeffy162 05-09-11 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carboniteaddon (Post 236975)
The flickering minimap icons appear to be a game bug when changing the minimap texture file. I experimented and found a trick that appears to fix it. This will be in the next version, which is about done. I plan on releasing it tonight.

That's good to hear, faatal. I've noticed that, for some odd reason, it can be quite random. I can log into a character, and the whole time I am playing that character, the icons won't blink. Change to another character, and the icons don't blink until I "zone", or do a "/rl". On another character, the icons might start out blinking, but if I "zone" or "/rl" they stop blinking. On top of it, this can happen with any character at any time. It doesn't seem to matter how many, or which, addons I have enabled, it can happen (or not happen) regardless.

carboniteaddon 05-09-11 11:27 PM

It appears to be some type of caching or loading problem. I'm sure you will let us know if Carb 4.1 does not fix it. ;)

Yelina 05-10-11 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carboniteaddon (Post 236982)
It appears to be some type of caching or loading problem. I'm sure you will let us know if Carb 4.1 does not fix it. ;)

FYI :I didn't play much yet today. But after installing Carb 4.1 I started the game on one of my chars
And the flashing icons on the mini map were still there.

fixitman333 05-10-11 05:44 PM

I have the same issue. I also use separate WoW and carb minimaps. Only icons for things I am tracking are flashing. I also use HandyNotes, and none of the vendors, mailboxes, etc are flashing.

jeffy162 05-11-11 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carboniteaddon (Post 236982)
It appears to be some type of caching or loading problem. I'm sure you will let us know if Carb 4.1 does not fix it. ;)

It still appears to be a random thing. Yesterday, I logged onto one character, and everything was fine (no blinking icons except for the active node indicator). Logged onto another character and everything was blinking again.

Today, I logged onto one of those same characters (the one everything was fine for), and everything was blinking again. Logged onto the other character, and nothing was blinking. Logged back onto the other character again, and the blinking had stopped.

Through all of this, one thing (at least for me) has remained constant. The Carbonite herb/ore icons have not blinked at all. I don't know why, but....

Crystallyne 05-11-11 10:23 AM

I have installed the newest update, and my icons are still flashing as well. :( I also use seperate default and carb minimaps. (I have the carb minimap positioned below my regular minimap, but zoomed out a bit to see more of the map.) I hope y'all can get this sorted out!! Thanks for all the effort put into it!

symbiosis 05-14-11 12:38 AM

Mini map flicker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystallyne (Post 237063)
I have installed the newest update, and my icons are still flashing as well. :( I also use seperate default and carb minimaps. (I have the carb minimap positioned below my regular minimap, but zoomed out a bit to see more of the map.) I hope y'all can get this sorted out!! Thanks for all the effort put into it!


Mine has the flicker problem still, but not on the carbonite, but just on the blizzard one...also I was wondering since this was the problem of the flickering is anyone else with carbonite having trouble going from DX 9 -> DX 11? I'm not saying carbies to blame but the same time i was asking about this issue, I was having that problem (and have left it there as my mouse dissapears too). and as I said it could be any number of things, just that carby was at the scene of the crime so to speak

fixitman333 05-14-11 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by symbiosis (Post 237277)
Mine has the flicker problem still, but not on the carbonite, but just on the blizzard one...also I was wondering since this was the problem of the flickering is anyone else with carbonite having trouble going from DX 9 -> DX 11? I'm not saying carbies to blame but the same time i was asking about this issue, I was having that problem (and have left it there as my mouse dissapears too). and as I said it could be any number of things, just that carby was at the scene of the crime so to speak

I just upgraded to a DX 11 capable card last week (from 285GTX to 570GTX). I've had no problems switching from DX 9 to DX 11, but I've found that DX 11 is unstable and performs very poorly. Reverting back to DX 9 actually resulted in a big improvement. I hadn't thought about the possibility of an addon causing that until now. I'll see what happens without addons after work today though.

shadow78 05-17-11 06:55 AM

did a little test...
 
if you use Gatherer.. disable it..
get GatherMate2.
it's stop it..
think it's Gatherer really ( it need a update anyways)

Test it out yourself guys.. and let others know if this help you out..
I hope it's not carbonite or server minimap

Yelina 05-17-11 11:16 AM

I don't use Gatherer. I have Carbonite :)

jackpotmonkey 05-18-11 01:44 AM

It appears this may have something to do with the gameobjectcache.wdb file in the cache/wdb/enus/ folder, this would explain why the problem seemed to be fixed after the mini patch (as patches erase all the cache files) and why it re-appeared after a reload/restart of the game client. What the spacific problem is lies beyond me as I am not an author, but maybe this will help point in the right direction.

fixitman333 05-18-11 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow78 (Post 237447)
if you use Gatherer.. disable it..
get GatherMate2.
it's stop it..
think it's Gatherer really ( it need a update anyways)

Test it out yourself guys.. and let others know if this help you out..
I hope it's not carbonite or server minimap

I use GatherMate2, and everything I've selected for tracking on the Blizzard minimap dropdown was flashing. I decided to login to one of my "utility" toons to check for incompatibilities with other addons. The results were strange....

First, bear in mind that I have three accounts within my BNet account for multiboxxing. I'm certain that I've seen the flashing on all the characters I frequently use on the first and third accounts. I have a level 2 tauren warrior parked at the BB AH (my "utility" toon). That toon is on my second account, and has never learned any trades. The only reason he is even level 2 is because of discoveries during the run to Ratchet. His carbonite settings are all at the default values from a fresh install almost a year ago (same savedvariables files).

I initially logged in to that toon with only the carbonite suite enabled. I was greeted with a LUA error about getWintergraspTimer that was stuck in a loop (error number was counting up fast). I closed all the info windows I could see , having to tell WoW not to disable my addons during the process. I then logged out and back in, only to be greeted by the same continuing error. Oops, I missed a few.... I got them all closed, then relogged again. The errors were gone.

I turned on tracking of reagents, flight masters, and banks. None of them flashed. I then turned on tracking of everything, and nothing flashed. I even went outside BB and then back in, getting splattered by an NPC in the process (lol). I still saw no flashing icons. Finally, I logged out and enabled all of my addons. I still saw no flashing icons.....

I decided it was time to login to my 85 priest on that account. I still saw no flashing icons. He is an herbalist/scribe, so I flew around until I found an herb node. It was flashing normally. I then turned on all tracking options and flew around for a bit. The only thing that flashed was herb nodes (I didn't fly over water). I figured that maybe that account didn't have the issue, and I just didn't notice.

For my final test, I logged in to my 85 mage on my third account. He used to be herb/mining, but is now tailor/enchant. I was just doing dailies with that toon a couple hours ago, so I'm certain the issue was there. I say "was" because the issue is now gone. I have tried everything I could think of to recreate the issue, but it wouldn't return. I have been dealing with this issue on that toon since it first started happening. It has never just stopped and then restarted later.

I don't know what stopped the unwanted flashing. I do hope that this information will help the authors figure it out though. If the issue returns, I'll reply with whatever details I can.

symbiosis 05-22-11 03:55 PM

Carbonite is disabled and it stops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jackpotmonkey (Post 237524)
It appears this may have something to do with the gameobjectcache.wdb file in the cache/wdb/enus/ folder, this would explain why the problem seemed to be fixed after the mini patch (as patches erase all the cache files) and why it re-appeared after a reload/restart of the game client. What the spacific problem is lies beyond me as I am not an author, but maybe this will help point in the right direction.

It is still doing it after the mini patch...and i disable carbonite for some runs like BH, then come out in areas like SW etc, and it doesnt do it anymore

jackpotmonkey 05-23-11 11:09 PM

Found a fix, kinda
 
If you are having this issue, turn tracking off for all non-gathering options, then reload your ui (/reload or /console reloadui), when you re-enable the tracking for the non gathering options (like bankers, mailboxes, ect) after the reload, they will no longer flash for at least that session, this seems to fix it untill you close the game client completely.

SgtGonzo 05-24-11 10:47 AM

tried all listed fixes so far....
 
icons are still flashing, tried the listed fixes in this thread so far. I'm using the latest DL 4.1, and do not have gatherer installed. blink blink blink .... have to disable carbonite to get it to stop.... :( help?

jeffy162 05-25-11 08:43 PM

For me, the blinking icons are still random. Sometimes when I log in, they blink. Sometimes they don't. It doesn't matter which server or character I log onto, or how many addons are enabled, either. The only thing I've found to stop it with any consistency is to change the blink rate of the active node icon in Carbonites options. Open Carbonites options to the "Map Minimap" page, and look for the "Minimap herb/ore glow delay (0 is off) 0.4" line. Click anywhere on that line and you will get an edit box that pops up. Change the value to 0 (zero) hit "Accept", and it should stop the blinking.

carboniteaddon 05-30-11 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixitman333 (Post 237556)
I initially logged in to that toon with only the carbonite suite enabled. I was greeted with a LUA error about getWintergraspTimer that was stuck in a loop (error number was counting up fast). I closed all the info windows I could see , having to tell WoW not to disable my addons during the process.

I found that getWintergraspTimer error and fixed it. Fix will be in the next version, which I hope will be soon.

carboniteaddon 05-30-11 02:07 PM

I tried a few more things and the flicker persists. Appears to be no way around it.

Found a post on the Blizzard bugs forum from someone making an addon that changes the blips and they have the same problem. No response from Blizzard to his post. Blizzard will need to fix it.

I made a change for the next Carb version which should help a bit:
Multipled delay of "Minimap herb/ore dot glow delay (0 is off)" x4, so flicker is less annoying. Appears to be a game bug. Set to 0 or 999 if you can't stand flicker.

carboniteaddon 05-30-11 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackpotmonkey (Post 237923)
If you are having this issue, turn tracking off for all non-gathering options, then reload your ui (/reload or /console reloadui), when you re-enable the tracking for the non gathering options (like bankers, mailboxes, ect) after the reload, they will no longer flash for at least that session, this seems to fix it untill you close the game client completely.

Tried that and it still flickers.

carboniteaddon 05-30-11 02:37 PM

This will also help:
Added check for active tracking spell before changing minimap dots.

Meaning no flicker unless find herbs or find minerals are active.

fixitman333 05-31-11 05:18 AM

Why not just give us an option to not change minimap dots? I prefer to use the carb minimap for quest tracking only, so is there even a reason to change the dots on the blizzard minimap?

shadow78 05-31-11 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixitman333 (Post 238465)
Why not just give us an option to not change minimap dots? I prefer to use the carb minimap for quest tracking only, so is there even a reason to change the dots on the blizzard minimap?

uh there is a option.. it's been talked about many time here.. change .4 to 0 to default blizz style... the .4 just make dots blink ..

jackpotmonkey 06-01-11 03:33 AM

Yeah the first time i tried the reload it worked, the icons were flashing then after the reload (I was in sw) and re-enabling they were no longer flashing, however subsequent attempts have all resulted in no change what so ever. This issue also appears to effect things that you cannot actively turn off for tracking (such as daily quests/quests at your level), basically any overlay icon on the map. I am not sure how the flashing nodes was implamented but it appears that there is no longer a distinction between the gatherable nodes and other map icons, but for some reason at times it works as intended and only the gatherable nodes flash.... perhaps there is another way to go about isolating the nodes to flash without calling all the other icons as well, i knowtice that when everything is flashing the effect is not a smooth flash either, and it seems to flash between 2 different icons rather than on then off.

well, too tired to think anyways, wish i knew enough to be of some help cause its a frustrating bug.

fixitman333 06-01-11 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow78 (Post 238485)
uh there is a option.. it's been talked about many time here.. change .4 to 0 to default blizz style... the .4 just make dots blink ..

I got so used to the node icons flashing, that I forgot that wasn't the default behavior. I'll just go back to the default style until I hear this is fixed :)

jackpotmonkey 06-01-11 06:31 AM

workaround tested repeatedly
 
Ok I have tested this 3 times now and it seems to work each time, its just a temporary fix in that it will work untill you close the game client, which if you're like me and just log out to the login screen it should stay fixed untill you patch or have to close the client for some reason.

1. Go into your Wow folder and Delete the Cache Folder contained within (this must be done with the game client closed).
2. Launch the game normally
3. Log into a toon that has carbonite enabled (Note: It may need to be a toon that is in a major city away from gathering Nodes, My toon was parked in Stormwind)
4. When this toon gets loaded up the mini map icons will still be flashing, however if you reload your ui (/console reloadui) after the reload the icons will behave properly.
5. Now just remember that you will have to delete the cache folder again if you completely close the client, and reload UI after the first time you load without the cache, but this workaround should fix you up until a coded fix is found.

carboniteaddon 06-01-11 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackpotmonkey (Post 238550)
I am not sure how the flashing nodes was implamented but it appears that there is no longer a distinction between the gatherable nodes and other map icons, but for some reason at times it works as intended and only the gatherable nodes flash....

It works exactly the same. You cannot flash individual icons. You can only change the graphic page that all the icon art is on. Blizzard changed something in the game with how the page gets updated when it is set. Even changing it to the default art each time causes the flicker.

Perfectdoll 06-02-11 05:26 AM

Am not sure if it helps any, but I have noticed that when I'm in a party with the blinking icons error happening, my party members icons remains unblinking, even if everything else does.


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