Has this been cheaked out?? Iam afraid i not about to follow a link that just pasted here.
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Well, one of the links goes to curse.com, which is obvious, and the other goes to a .edu domain, which can only be registered by a legitimate US educational institution (in this case, Colorado State University) and is extremely unlikely to be hosting malware, so I think you're pretty safe.
Anyway, as long as your operating system and browser is reasonably up to date, and you're running some kind of antivirus/antimalware software, the chances of any link posted on a forum infecting you are pretty low, especially if the person posting the link went through the trouble of posting so much information around it. Most spammers post only a link, or a link surrounded by broken English. Finally, I've never understood the point of coming to post only "I don't trust this link, so I'm not clicking on it." If you don't want to click a link, great. Nobody's trying to force you. |
I go becase i like to help. Iam not real computer literate so i look to see if anyone cheaked it out.
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Obviously, nothing on the internet is ever 100% safe. If you're unwilling to accept any risk, you should never even connect your computer to any network.
That said, I think the fact that an .edu domain is controlled by a legitimate educational institution does make it safer, because such institutions generally have strong policies about what types of files users may host on their network, and strong penalties for users who violate these policies. A .com domain might be hosted by a provider who has similar policies, or it might be hosted by a "rogue" provider in Russia or China who doesn't care what's on their servers. Finally, I've been using the internet on a near-daily basis for the last 15 years or so, and have never -- not once -- had my computer infected with any kind of virus, worm, trojan, keylogger, spyware, or other malware. The only things any security scans ever complain about are tracking cookies, or occasionally "no CD" cracks back in the days when requiring the game disc to be in your CD-ROM drive was a popular anti-piracy measure. It's just not that hard to avoid being infected by malware, and I really don't understand how so many people get so completely destroyed by viruses. :confused: |
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Let's say there's some kind of virus on one of the pages. If your computer is reasonably up to date, and reasonably protected, the chances of that virus being able to infect you are pretty low. Even if it does get through, the chances of it having an immediate and catastrophic effect on your computer are probably pretty low (I'm basing this on the fact that I've cleaned up dozens of computers for friends and relatives that had dozens or even hundreds of viruses on them, yet had continued to function without data loss for months or years). Let's say there is no virus, but there's some other kind of scam. Let's say, for example, that the addon he wants you to install has some sneaky code in it that sends his character some gold the next time you open a mailbox. The addon is published on Curse, he's posted the link publicly here on WoWInterface, and people in this very thread have already reviewed the addon's code and commented on it. Do you really think that nobody would have noticed something like that? Finally, let's say his whole point is just to get you to "waste" 90 minutes of your day playing WoW with some strangers. Even if that's the case, and the promise of a 30-day game card is a lie, who cares? Does it really ruin your life, or have any effect on anything, if you spend 90 minutes of your day playing WoW with some strangers for "nothing"? All of the time you spend playing WoW is for "nothing". I just don't understand why there's so much fear and paranoia going on in this thread. The guy sounds legit, and I can't see much potential of any kind of payoff even if it is an elaborate scam. If you don't trust him, or don't trust the links he posted, don't click on the links, and don't volunteer for his reasearch. It's that simple. I'm generally a pretty big pessimist, so the fact that I'm apparently on the optimistic side of this conversation concerns me. :rolleyes: |
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Weather or not you can "wrap your head around it", always remember that people have their reasons for doing things regardless of weather or not you know what those reasons are or if you agree/disagree with them. |
Use Dropbox or some other online cloud storage, or an external hard drive, or a USB stick, or even CD-Rs or DVD-Rs, to back up your important stuff. Having critical information in only one place is a bad idea even if you don't use the internet. What if your hard drive fails tomorrow?
Burn a disk image to a CD and keep it around. Replace it periodically with a new one. If your computer ever has some unrecoverable software problem (such as a virus that you can't remove), you can just restore from the backup, wiping away everything that's on the hard drive. Really, it just comes down to common sense. If you don't trust the guy, or are afraid of clicking on links, nobody here is trying to force you to click on the links he posted, or participate in his study. Posting things like "I wouldn't click on that link without calling the place that controls that site and talking to someone first" and "I own a web hosting company" togther gives less knowledgable readers the impression that (a) you are an authority on the subject, and (b) as such an authority, you are advising them that links on the internet are scary and not to be trusted. If your personal situation means that you need to be extra cautious, that's fine; it's not your situation that bothers me, it's the impression your posts give average users. |
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Regardless of your experiences, wanting to look up a phone number for a company/institution, call them on the phone, and talk to a live person about a page on their website before you're willing to click on a link to that page seems like a very extreme position to take.
Do you really think that's a reasonable thing to suggest to the average WoW player? What about the people running the website? Do you think they're equipped to handle the volume of phone calls that they would receive if everyone followed your advice? Anyway, how are you going to find the phone number to call without clicking on internet links? Do you collect paper phone books from every city and county in the country? What about other countries? How do you get all these phone books? Should everyone dedicate a room in their house to collecting phone books so they can check out every link before they click on it? Where does it all end? |
When in doubt, use NoScript.
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The way things are with security and Wow, I find absolutely nothing wrong with calling up a company to inquire about the validity of something on their website. We are consistently reminded that we should be safe when dealing with any website regarding Wow. Making a phone call because you wish to be safe isn't hurting anyone. |
I'm sorry but I don't see anything combative about Phanx's last question.
When you propose something you suggest it as standard practice for "everyone", no? Moderately popular sites can get hundreds or thousands of unique hits. You're suggesting that all of these hundreds or thousands should have first phoned in before visiting. This is also very much a catch-22 situation, I mean did you phone in to WoWi before visiting the site? Did you phone-in to the site where you found the Wowi link? If it was a search engine, do you phone-in to Google for any link they might return before visiting that link? If you're doing all that for wow related sites only... what do you do for sites not related to a hobby. |
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Plus, you said you use the same computer for work and for personal use (playing WoW, reading forums, etc.). A keylogger that sent all your keystrokes back to its maker could come from a website totally unrelated to WoW, and get your WoW password anyway. If you believe this is such a great threat to your computer and/or your happiness, shouldn't you exercise these extreme security measures for all websites, not just WoW-related ones? Quote:
If there's some way to get a phone number that does not require either having a physical copy of a paper phone book or clicking on an internet link to a site you have not previously discussed with a live person over the phone, then yes, I guess I do need a lesson, because I can't imagine what that way could possibly be. |
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Directory assistance is not free on most (if any) wireless plans. For example, my carrier charges $1.99 per use.
It's been about a decade since I had a landline in my home, and the only people I know who have one nowadays are all over 60, but according the Wikipedia page you linked, calling directory assistance from a landline is not free either, and costs anywhere from $1.25 for getting a local number, to $7.95 for getting an international number. I don't know about your web browsing habits or your financial situation, but I certanly can't afford to pay $1.99 every time I want to click on a link to a site I haven't visited before. For instance, I got home about 2 hours ago. In that time I've done laundry and cooked dinner for myself, yet I've still had time to browse web pages on 22 different domains. Had I called each of them beforehand, I'd be out more money than I pay for an entire month of Internet service, and probably used up most (if not all) of the voice minutes I pay for on my cellular plan. Though, I suppose if I'd had to make so many phone calls, I wouldn't have had time to visit so many sites. :p Also, how would Google respond if I called them and asked them if it was safe to click a link to a Google Code project page? How would SourceForge respond if I called them and asked if it was safe to click a link to download the new version of the Pidgin IM client? Does Wikipedia even have a phone staff? |
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Guess it's time for me to discontinue further discussions with you. I prefer someone who will at the very least be able to see things from someone else's point of view while also sticking to their own views. |
I'm merely following your suggestion to its logical endpoint. If you're unwilling to engage in any kind of debate, or back up your argument, why post it in the first place?
I'm not unwilling to look at things from your perspective. Your perspective seems to be one based in fear (eg. you've seen bad things happen on the internet, so you know bad things can happen on the internet, and you're afraid of bad things happening to your computer because it has important data on it and you can't afford to replace it). Based on that assessment, I offered several suggestions, none of which would require significant investments of time or money, all of which would protect your data and your computer, and greatly mitigate the effects of the things you seem to be so worried about on the internet. If you don't feel that's an accurate assessment of your perspective, well, I can't read your mind, so I can't say I feel too bad about getting it wrong when you won't provide any logical counterpoints or concrete examples. Anyway, yeah, I'm also done with the conversation when you quote my post but edit my actual words to "blahblahblah". I'd expect that level of maturity from a teenager, not a parent of teenagers, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised when it comes from someone who's gone out of their way to label themself as a "Psychotic Female" on these forums. :/ |
One small but important issue with making phone calls to the owners of websites.
People lie. Assuming you ever get a person on the far end and not a machine doing the lying. Just because it has a phone number guarantees nothing. In the case of a education domain it certainly has a higher chance of confirming the veracity of a site in question. In the case of the thread this originally came from I would think it entirely possible to get the number of the institution and verify this study. If however, we were to take this site as an example. Is there a number to call for a first time visitor? No there is not. Would there be any guarantee that who or what picks up on the other end is legit if there were? Of course not. The overall concept of taking precautions of course is advisable. Not sure why everyone is doggedly sticking to this somewhat silly (and of limited use) premise of making phone calls. |
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