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12-24-14, 03:30 AM   #1
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Quests database

We all know that there is a issue with missing or NIL objectives. I'm working on it with atl77, but thats not so easy, as wowhead doesnt properly display objetives on quest page.

Ill search wow CASC files for real wow dbc with objectives but i dont know if there is this kind of file there.

Maybe someone have another sollution? Where to look for the real wow quests objective database?
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12-24-14, 05:39 PM   #2
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I've seen this suggested several times in the past couple of years so it's just a thought.. Instead of trying to redesign the wheel, why not take advantage of an addon like Grail, whose sole purpose is to supply a database of quests and quest related information? It may give better results.

At the very least it couldn't hurt to ask Nimhfree about it. Maybe s/he has an idea that could help you out.
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12-24-14, 06:12 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Vis View Post
I've seen this suggested several times in the past couple of years so it's just a thought.. Instead of trying to redesign the wheel, why not take advantage of an addon like Grail, whose sole purpose is to supply a database of quests and quest related information? It may give better results.

At the very least it couldn't hurt to ask Nimhfree about it. Maybe s/he has an idea that could help you out.
It's the same problem it always has been, objective locations. Grail doesn't have it either.
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12-24-14, 06:30 PM   #4
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a bit off topic

since new github release at apexis daily in Evergreen Wilds , Gorgrond overlay with quest one for bonus and some (3 if I track it right with Obj nil

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all with same Questtitle for apexisdaily
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12-25-14, 04:19 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Rythal View Post
It's the same problem it always has been, objective locations. Grail doesn't have it either.
Thats right z Grail doesnt have information about quest objectives.
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12-25-14, 09:34 AM   #6
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However, you might want to think about adding the quest objectives to Grail as a loadable add-on. You need to determine whether it is better to (1) change Carbonite to use Grail, and add quest objectives to Grail, or (2) add all the new information for quests and quest objectives to Carbonite.
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12-26-14, 08:13 AM   #7
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There is project called WodCore ... they have MySQL database with quest and quest objectives, maybe blobs too. Im checking it right now. Maybe we can use this to get quests database.
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12-26-14, 09:35 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by ircdirk View Post
There is project called WodCore ... they have MySQL database with quest and quest objectives, maybe blobs too. Im checking it right now. Maybe we can use this to get quests database.
I just googled that project.. the only thing that came up was a listing for a group dealing with private servers. I'm not sure I would use that as a base for reliable quest information.
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12-26-14, 09:41 AM   #9
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Yep, thats only TrinityCore no quests for Pandaria or Dreanor. But TrinityCore goes 6.x.x so they will soon have db for 6.x.x.

So for now searching another solution.

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12-27-14, 05:27 AM   #10
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Ok for know i will use wowdb not wowhead as their database is more consistent.

Im thinking not to add quests which doesnt have all objectives marked on map. Then fall back function to blizz quests will work for all objectives and not only one which is in wowdb.
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12-27-14, 05:56 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by ircdirk View Post
Ok for know i will use wowdb not wowhead as their database is more consistent.

Im thinking not to add quests which doesnt have all objectives marked on map. Then fall back function to blizz quests will work for all objectives and not only one which is in wowdb.
When you have a working solution and free time do you think you can also do the lvl 01-90 quests?
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12-27-14, 06:01 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by nelegalno2 View Post
When you have a working solution and free time do you think you can also do the lvl 01-90 quests?
0-85 Yes will we redo them but dont know if result will be good.
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12-27-14, 08:28 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by ircdirk View Post
0-85 Yes will we redo them but dont know if result will be good.
We can allays keep the old ones if they are better.
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12-27-14, 09:11 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by nelegalno2 View Post
We can allays keep the old ones if they are better.
This'll gonna require an awful lot of testing...
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12-27-14, 09:56 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by atl77 View Post
This'll gonna require an awful lot of testing...
Yep. I will do site for quests reporting and tool for repairing bad quests with option to recover old quest data if it was correct.
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12-27-14, 12:23 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by ircdirk View Post
Yep. I will do site for quests reporting and tool for repairing bad quests with option to recover old quest data if it was correct.
This was on my list of wanted things, an online quest editor so the databases could be dumped. But before doing such I wanted to fix up QuestNPCs so they reflected the real NPC ID instead of carbonites own table.

and while it's beyond my web programming skill I had even pondered showing the zone maps when quest editing in the way Wowhead does so the objective area's can be drawn / added in a graphical way and cut down on how many objective lines there are.
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12-27-14, 12:58 PM   #17
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If you need someone to fill up a questDB for levels 1 to 90 let me know. I don't do end game stuff at the moment, just level lots of alts and do crafting. I can't promise constant and quick updates but I can reserve a character just for this. I don't use carbonite myself but I can understand the need for testing and correct information.
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Xrystal, if you want to do testing please try out Grail (and Wholly if you want). :-)
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rofl, I'll put aside a character for those 2 addons .. I used them for a while last year
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12-27-14, 02:34 PM   #20
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Is it possible to make a module that will collect quest data from the game so players can submit it for addition to the db? I believe Grail and a few other addons have similar functions.

P.S. Maybe even share it among them automatically so it won't be a problem if only a few share it? I have a few chars that I intend to level up and can use to collect some info with.

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