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03-15-10, 06:35 PM   #1
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A little help from my geek family...

Okay... So, I installed Windoze 7 and everything seems fine *except* my internet connections are *CRAWLING* It's taking *minutes* to load web pages, make e-mail server connections, etc. I had W7 on this machine previously (the beta) and my latency in WoW was 57ms... now it's over 300ms and even that I'm not sure is "honest" I have installed Leatrix Latency fix and it hasn't helped. I also tried deleting my wireless connection and recreating it. Something's *really* wrong here. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what I should be looking at?
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03-15-10, 07:01 PM   #2
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Just to check...

When you installed the full version of Win7, did you wipe your partition and do a clean install or use the existing setup and just input the key?

If you wiped it, did you get the latest and greatest drivers for your wireless or did you use the Win7 supplied ones?
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03-15-10, 08:29 PM   #3
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That the issue I run into most when I reinstall an operating system, forgetting to install the network drivers!
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03-16-10, 04:38 AM   #4
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What Xandora said. ^^

If you did indeed install your motherboard chipset drivers, then try going to the NIC card manufacturers site and see if there are newer ones available.
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03-16-10, 05:15 AM   #5
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Actually, yes... I have installed the Intel Pro Set Wireless drivers for Windows 7 direct from the Intel site. I also uninstalled Adobe Flash and Shockwave in case one of them was causing the issue.

Still stuck. It appears the connections to the internet are instantaneous, but the throughput is horrid.

I have no problem with internet access from my daughter's computer, so I don't believe it's the network itself.

EDIT: I think I have a clue what's going on... if I download a single file I get great speed... 147meg in just over 1 minute... however, while I'm downloading that file *every* other internet access request fails (timed out). It looks to me like my entire network interface is single threaded (one request at a time) which makes it take forever to download web pages that have lots of content, css, images, includes, etc.
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03-16-10, 10:44 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by spiel2001 View Post
It looks to me like my entire network interface is single threaded (one request at a time) which makes it take forever to download web pages that have lots of content, css, images, includes, etc.
How do you go about fixing that?
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Originally Posted by Petrah View Post
How do you go about fixing that?
Hey no fair! That's my question... you're the geek that was supposed to answer it!

~grin~
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Originally Posted by spiel2001 View Post
Hey no fair! That's my question... you're the geek that was supposed to answer it!

~grin~
Hey now... I'm not skeert to admit that there might be one or two things that I don't know (teasing rofl). lol I don't think I've ever ran across that problem before, so unsure how you would fix it.
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03-16-10, 12:54 PM   #9
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Win Vista and 7 have a few optimisations for it's tcp stack, most should give at least a small boost, but some can cause problems.

First thing first, depending on the NIC, you might want to turn on it's onboard cpu if it has one, tho that should mostly make the main cpu have less work to do while downloading.
http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/954/ (may be different if you're using the 64bit version, but think it still the same on the 32bit version since w2k, same goes for the rest)

Another thing is to see if turning off "autotuning" makes a difference.
http://www.kombitz.com/2007/02/14/vista-auto-tuning/

You could also check the MTU
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/5793

As always, use at your own risk. Note that programs like "Yamicsoft Windows 7 Manager" can do the settings for you, as well as discovering of for instance the correct cache size is used for the CPU.

Also, check the router/modem config. Even if other machines don't have problems it can't harm to reboot the router/modem and to check if "nat" and things like that aren't screwed up. And try without using WiFi by disabling it.
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Still no networking love. I think I'm just going to blow it all away and re-install Windows from the ground up. Something, obviously, has gone wrong. I've tried deleting the network device, the wireless connection, MTU settings, registry and everything else and still it takes 2 to 3 minutes to load a web page even though I can download files at hundreds of megs per minute.
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03-16-10, 06:58 PM   #11
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Hmph... something's still not right. It's "better" (tm) but it's still painfully slow. I dunno what the deal is... I had *no* networking problems with the Windows 7 beta, but somethings' "no right" with this commercial installation. /sigh

Going to have to do some trial and error I guess.
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03-16-10, 07:08 PM   #12
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You mentioned you were on wireless. Is it possible that you accidentally setup your home network as either a Work or Public type? That may change some characteristics of your connection, just a guess though.

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Silly thing to check.....If it's a laptop, plug directly into the router and access random webpages. If you get good speed there it's likely not a Win7 issue but a driver issue on the wireless side of things.

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03-16-10, 08:43 PM   #13
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Pathping (or just tracert) to some internet site is a good tool to check where latency is coming from (e.g. make sure it's not coming from the network and happened to coincide with upgrading the PC). If you can connect it to another wifi network, that would be another good way of making sure whether it's specific to the computer.

Maybe keep netstat up while making a bunch of connection attempts to check whether they really are waiting for the first one to close. Also, if your router firmware supports it, see how many open connections it shows coming from your computer.

Also, be sure to rule out nachos.
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Yeah... I'm not sure what the glitch was... I ended up installing Windows 7 three times tonight and the third time appears to have done the trick. My internet is back to lightning speed now, so I think I'm okay.

Might have somethign to do with the XPS M1710 being over six years old now... might have been reporting something that confused the O/S installer.. dunno. But, all seems okay now.

I apprecaite the feedback from everyone. I'll holler if the problem rears its ugly head again.
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Holy hell... I think I might have to put a seat belt on my computer chair now. After applying all the tweaks I came across the last two days I look like the dude in those old audio tape commercials with my tie flying over my shoulder ~lmao~
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~lmao~

That's exactly the one I was talking about.

Gawd... you really do have to love the internet. (when it's working)
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Not bad... pulling WoW down from Blizz now at a bit over 1.2mb/s over my wireless on this 6 year old laptop. Hope I can keep that performance up.
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good to hear that your internet is working again.
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