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06-17-10, 11:47 PM   #1
Aalwein
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Matching everything ... yet 10-15 fps less

Ok, I've got a problem that is driving me crazy.

Up until a few days ago, I was getting an easy 45+ fps (usually 55-59, 60hz refresh rate) everywhere I went. Recently, however, my fps has plummeted into the mid 20s to low 30s.

My wife and I have almost identical rigs. I built them at the same time and all the major pieces (cpu, mb, gpu, ram, HDD) are all identical. We also have identical addon lists. She is easily cruising with her 50+ fps, while I wallow in the 30s. The only difference in our setups is that I have a few more Autobars then she has.

I've used Shadowed's Option House to monitor memory and cpu usage. I've rebooted my computer and cleared my WOW cache. I've got no unnatural errors (except for that group sync issue with Alpha Map).

Anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?
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06-18-10, 12:02 AM   #2
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Here's a list of my addon folder:


Code:
 Volume in drive C has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is CE6A-1903

 Directory of C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns

06/18/2010  03:01 PM    <DIR>          .
06/18/2010  03:01 PM    <DIR>          ..
05/18/2010  07:23 PM    <DIR>          !ncHoverFocus
05/18/2010  07:23 PM    <DIR>          !Swatter
06/18/2010  02:59 PM                19 addonlist.bat
06/18/2010  03:01 PM                 0 addonlist.txt
06/18/2010  02:59 PM                21 allfiles.bat
06/18/2010  03:00 PM           484,751 allfiles.txt
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3MobMap
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3QuestHelper
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3_Battlegrounds
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3_Exteriors
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3_Instances
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3_POI_Instances
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3_POI_TravelAgents
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3_POI_Utilities
05/21/2010  06:32 PM    <DIR>          AlphaMap3_WorldBosses
05/30/2010  12:41 AM    <DIR>          Ammocheck
05/27/2010  05:21 PM    <DIR>          ArkInventory
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Atlas
06/03/2010  04:24 PM    <DIR>          AtlasLoot
06/03/2010  04:24 PM    <DIR>          AtlasLootFu
06/03/2010  04:24 PM    <DIR>          AtlasLoot_BurningCrusade
06/03/2010  04:24 PM    <DIR>          AtlasLoot_Crafting
06/03/2010  04:24 PM    <DIR>          AtlasLoot_OriginalWoW
06/03/2010  04:24 PM    <DIR>          AtlasLoot_WorldEvents
06/03/2010  04:24 PM    <DIR>          AtlasLoot_WrathoftheLichKing
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Atlas_Battlegrounds
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Atlas_DungeonLocs
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Atlas_OutdoorRaids
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Atlas_Transportation
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Auc-Advanced
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05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Auc-ScanData
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Auc-Stat-Classic
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Auc-Stat-Histogram
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Auc-Stat-iLevel
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Auc-Stat-Purchased
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Auc-Stat-Simple
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Auc-Stat-StdDev
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Auc-Util-FixAH
05/28/2010  10:37 AM    <DIR>          AutoBar
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          BeanCounter
05/29/2010  05:08 PM    <DIR>          BigWigs
05/29/2010  05:08 PM    <DIR>          BigWigs_Citadel
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05/29/2010  05:08 PM    <DIR>          BigWigs_Foreign
05/29/2010  05:08 PM    <DIR>          BigWigs_Naxxramas
05/29/2010  05:08 PM    <DIR>          BigWigs_Northrend
05/29/2010  05:08 PM    <DIR>          BigWigs_OnyxiasLair
05/29/2010  05:08 PM    <DIR>          BigWigs_Options
05/29/2010  05:08 PM    <DIR>          BigWigs_Plugins
05/29/2010  05:08 PM    <DIR>          BigWigs_Ulduar
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_AchievementUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_ArenaUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_AuctionUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_BarbershopUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_BindingUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_Calendar
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_CombatLog
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_CombatText
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_DebugTools
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_GlyphUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_GMChatUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_GMSurveyUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_GuildBankUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_InspectUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_ItemSocketingUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_MacroUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_RaidUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_TalentUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_TimeManager
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_TokenUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_TradeSkillUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Blizzard_TrainerUI
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          BonusScanner
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          ButtonFacade
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          ButtonFacade_Entropy
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05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          ButtonFacade_Svelte
06/07/2010  12:26 PM    <DIR>          caelNamePlates
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Carbonite
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05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          CarboniteNodes
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          CarboniteTransfer
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          ChillEffect
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06/03/2010  06:36 AM    <DIR>          Dominos_Cast
06/03/2010  06:36 AM    <DIR>          Dominos_Config
06/03/2010  06:36 AM    <DIR>          Dominos_Roll
06/03/2010  06:36 AM    <DIR>          Dominos_Totems
06/03/2010  06:36 AM    <DIR>          Dominos_XP
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05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          GearScore
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05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          LightHeaded_Data_C
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          LightHeaded_Data_D
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          LightHeaded_Data_E
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          LightHeaded_Data_NPC
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          LightHeaded_Data_QIDNames
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          MikScrollingBattleText
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          MountRandomMount
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          MoveAnything
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          MSBTOptions
05/25/2010  07:20 PM    <DIR>          NoBoPWarning
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Omen
06/02/2010  04:23 PM    <DIR>          OmniCC
06/02/2010  04:23 PM    <DIR>          OmniCC_Options
06/18/2010  07:46 AM    <DIR>          OnlySkillups
06/03/2010  06:36 AM    <DIR>          OptionHouse
06/12/2010  09:45 PM    <DIR>          Overachiever
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Overachiever_Tabs
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Overachiever_Trade
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          PetRandomPet
06/17/2010  04:07 PM    <DIR>          PowerAuras
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Prat-3.0
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Prat-3.0_Libraries
05/24/2010  06:30 PM    <DIR>          Prat_LinkHover
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Quartz
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          RangeColors
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          Recount
05/18/2010  07:24 PM    <DIR>          RightClickSelfCast
06/01/2010  04:41 PM    <DIR>          SatrinaBuffFrame
06/01/2010  04:42 PM    <DIR>          SBFOptions
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          SellOMatic
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          ShadowedUF_Options
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          ShadowedUnitFrames
06/01/2010  04:42 PM    <DIR>          SLDataText
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          SlideBar
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          Stubby
06/14/2010  09:42 PM    <DIR>          SunnArt
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          Talented
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          Talented_GlyphFrame
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          Talented_SpecTabs
05/31/2010  11:30 AM    <DIR>          TargetCharms
05/31/2010  12:47 AM    <DIR>          teksLoot
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          TourGuide
06/01/2010  04:42 PM    <DIR>          VendorBait
05/18/2010  07:25 PM    <DIR>          XLoot
               4 File(s)        484,791 bytes
             146 Dir(s)  199,345,217,536 bytes free
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06-18-10, 12:55 AM   #3
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I discovered that I had multisampling set to 8 (hers was 4) and I had reverb and hardware sound on ... adjusting these to match earned me about 10 fps... but I still am seeing 8-15 fps less than her.
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06-18-10, 05:23 AM   #4
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If you use an addon to track CPU/Memory usage of addons this will reduce your overall performance. Try disabling the CPU profiling and also make sure taintLog is set to 0.

Have you tried resetting your saved variables for the addons that save data like Recount and Auctioneer. Make sure you make backups if you test it.
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06-18-10, 07:45 AM   #5
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I suggest testing framerates with both pc's naked, as in, no addons, then that will eliminate any thought of it being an addon, and if they are identical, then you may have to check in to AA, addons anonymous, it's ok, I've been there, great people .

Also, addons like recount, LAG if you don't reset the info on them, they keep all their stuff and it causes just an immense amount of lag, especially in raid situations.
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06-18-10, 07:49 AM   #6
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Check the driver for the graphics card, and it's control panel settings.
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06-18-10, 08:15 AM   #7
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Probably something to do with other software installed on each PC.
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06-18-10, 08:24 AM   #8
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Thanks for the feedback folks. The result of my troubleshooting today:

I checked over running processes and my wife's computer actually has less free memory while wow is playing than mine. The only apps running in background different between them is she has Firefox and I have Chrome. Both closed, same result.

Drivers for the graphics cards (same cards) are same version. Same with DirectX files.

It seems once I dropped that 8x multisampling and the sound reverb, my framerates are still slightly lower than hers but my game seems just as smooth. It's almost like the FPS is being reported incorrectly (using SLDataText to monitor). Even when I'm running at only 45 FPS and she is at 59 FPS, both games run just as smooth - and I've got both machines pushing max graphics settings and the distance set to 1600. I guess I've got nothing to complain about really.

But, for future reference, even a powerful rig like mine shouldn't be playing WoW at 8x multisampling on dual 1920 monitors!
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06-18-10, 08:30 AM   #9
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Yeah, many times fps issues are related to graphics settings. Especially in places like Dalaran, there are A LOT of things for the graphics card to render. The nicer you want it to look, and the more you want it to show (bigger spell details, high multisampling, etc.) the longer it may take for the graphics engine to keep up.
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06-18-10, 11:45 AM   #10
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If you have your shadows maxed out you might try dropping it down a notch or two if you're wanting to squeeze out a bit more performance.

Thanks for the tips though on the sound stuff. I totally forgot to adjust my sound settings (I only play with addon sound alerts, no other in game sounds going) so I had everything cranked but there was nothing to really listen to!
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06-19-10, 04:36 AM   #11
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Did you try putting the multisampling at x1? Did you check to see if there are new display drivers available from the manufacturers web site? Did you check out this official thread to see if anything there could help you? Did you try temporarily moving your Interface and WTF folders to your desktop, and logging in with fresh default settings to see if the issue persists?

Just some ideas! =)
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