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09-05-12, 11:36 PM   #1
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A plea to carbonite addon authors.

Please, please... release the license or lax it up for us to work on it as a community. We can't make money off of it and you wouldn't then have to worry about it anymore...
 
09-05-12, 11:46 PM   #2
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Personally, I think it would be better if the people in the community who are now trying to work on Carbonite would get together and produce a new mod with map functionality similar to Carbonite's. That's the only feature of Carbonite worth pursuing really...every other thing that it does, there are other mods that do it equally or better. Carbonite's map setup is awesome, but just about all the rest is unnecessary bloat.
 
09-06-12, 01:57 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by flesyMeM View Post
Personally, I think it would be better if the people in the community who are now trying to work on Carbonite would get together and produce a new mod with map functionality similar to Carbonite's. That's the only feature of Carbonite worth pursuing really...every other thing that it does, there are other mods that do it equally or better. Carbonite's map setup is awesome, but just about all the rest is unnecessary bloat.
This.

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09-06-12, 02:20 AM   #4
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If you really want that make a list.

Define what exactly the desired map should be capable of. Is it just the default minimap ...only bigger? Or what's the difference?

Doing minimap overlays has been done already.
http://www.wowinterface.com/download...MiniBlobs.html
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09-06-12, 03:19 AM   #5
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@zork
They want the in-game world map to work like Google Maps does (i.e., click-drag, zoom in/out, etc.).
 
09-06-12, 03:50 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by zork View Post
If you really want that make a list.

Define what exactly the desired map should be capable of. Is it just the default minimap ...only bigger? Or what's the difference?

Doing minimap overlays has been done already.
http://www.wowinterface.com/download...MiniBlobs.html
Mainly this...

Originally Posted by Talyrius View Post
@zork
They want the in-game world map to work like Google Maps does (i.e., click-drag, zoom in/out, etc.).
But as for the quest blobs on minimap, I'm actually kinda digging this one... http://www.wowace.com/addons/questpointer/

It's updated for 5.0.4 and fully functional, places both the quest blob and the POI on the minimap, and integrates pretty well with TomTom. Got so used to the ant trails to the quest locations in Carbonite that I kinda miss that, but I'm slowly getting used to not having them.

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09-10-12, 06:04 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by flesyMeM View Post
Personally, I think it would be better if the people in the community who are now trying to work on Carbonite would get together and produce a new mod with map functionality similar to Carbonite's. That's the only feature of Carbonite worth pursuing really...every other thing that it does, there are other mods that do it equally or better. Carbonite's map setup is awesome, but just about all the rest is unnecessary bloat.
I use the map and quest tracking features, but I never use, for example, the warehouse or the punks list or most the other things carbonite has. An add-on that was just the quest tracking and the map would be most welcome. Maybe design it to be module so people could add in other features they wanted instead of the multi-megabyte single LUA that carbonate has now.
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09-10-12, 07:34 PM   #8
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Perhaps we as a community could buy out the addon with sufficient donations. Give us a dollar value and let the community donate the funds to buy out the rights to the code so it can be made open source...
 
09-11-12, 05:00 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by jovenyoung View Post
Perhaps we as a community could buy out the addon with sufficient donations. Give us a dollar value and let the community donate the funds to buy out the rights to the code so it can be made open source...
What a great idea give this man a beer in fact buy him a dozen or more
 
09-11-12, 05:27 PM   #10
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Thumbs up Great idea!

Originally Posted by jovenyoung View Post
Perhaps we as a community could buy out the addon with sufficient donations. Give us a dollar value and let the community donate the funds to buy out the rights to the code so it can be made open source...
Awesome Idea if we could get everyone on the same page
 
09-11-12, 11:18 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by jovenyoung View Post
Perhaps we as a community could buy out the addon with sufficient donations. Give us a dollar value and let the community donate the funds to buy out the rights to the code so it can be made open source...
Now, if Carbonite did something like this - then yes... I could see them to be "greedy" -- granted, this addon was created as a profiteering adventure, Blizzard is the one who trumped that card. They had one person who actually financed the project - that person probably has a lot of say as to whether or not others can take over the addon. Right now, I see Carbonite as wanting to keep the addon they authored as their own. People have always been free to create their own and send it out for the masses - maybe one day someone (Rythal?) will do such.
 
09-17-12, 09:42 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by flesyMeM View Post
Personally, I think it would be better if the people in the community who are now trying to work on Carbonite would get together and produce a new mod with map functionality similar to Carbonite's. That's the only feature of Carbonite worth pursuing really...every other thing that it does, there are other mods that do it equally or better. Carbonite's map setup is awesome, but just about all the rest is unnecessary bloat.
Rythal (http://rythal.com) is undertaking the project, though he's starting from scratch so an interim solution will be needed. He's approaching it from a modular point of view so it shouldn't be too long before parts of the project are available, whatever its final size.
 
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Originally Posted by VincentSDSH View Post
Rythal (http://rythal.com) is undertaking the project, though he's starting from scratch so an interim solution will be needed. He's approaching it from a modular point of view so it shouldn't be too long before parts of the project are available, whatever its final size.
I wouldn't be so sure on that... I'm starting with the map since everything else ties into that, and the map is really not easy to reproduce... It definately won't be done by next week, and i'll have MoP taking my time. I am definitely working on it tho

(which makes me gotta ask, anyone running DS tonight and need a rogue? lol I haven't played all week, logging onto my lil level 1 and doing code / reload test, do code, /reload test... and I really want to get my last 80 clusters before MoP).
 
09-17-12, 11:39 AM   #14
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I wouldn't be so sure on that... I'm starting with the map since everything else ties into that, and the map is really not easy to reproduce... It definately won't be done by next week, and i'll have MoP taking my time. I am definitely working on it tho

(which makes me gotta ask, anyone running DS tonight and need a rogue? lol I haven't played all week, logging onto my lil level 1 and doing code / reload test, do code, /reload test... and I really want to get my last 80 clusters before MoP).

horde or alliance? i might be able to pull some strings to get you into my guilds DS run, we run it twice a week.


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If you're frustrated at having to develop carbonite and want to sit around complaining all day and hating your life because you have to maintain this profitless product then stop doing it, release the licence and quit being stingy. Here you are going on about god and church but you sure aren't acting like a christian should. LOL WHAT IS SHARING????????? If there's anything I dislike more than religious zealots, it's religious zealots who are also hypocrites. You don't need the head ache, clearly, and the project isn't making you any money, so why risk it being burried and dead, open it up so Rythal doesn't have to start from scratch. your product will live on! If you don't, Rythal's will be developed, it will be better, it will be open source, and openly maintained more readily than yours and yours WILL DIE and be forgotten. Wow only has a few years left in it to begin with though, so maybe you don't care. It's clear you're bitter though, so maybe you do care, but in the wrong way. maybe it's spite that drives you to act as you do. either way, RUMA can't come soon enough.

inb4 he blames the other people on the project for not wanting to release it to open source.

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09-17-12, 09:05 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Muezick View Post
@Faatal

If you're frustrated at having to develop carbonite and want to sit around complaining all day and hating your life because you have to maintain this profitless product then stop doing it, release the licence and quit being stingy. Here you are going on about god and church but you sure aren't acting like a christian should. LOL WHAT IS SHARING????????? If there's anything I dislike more than religious zealots, it's religious zealots who are also hypocrites. You don't need the head ache, clearly, and the project isn't making you any money, so why risk it being burried and dead, open it up so Rythal doesn't have to start from scratch. your product will live on! If you don't, Rythal's will be developed, it will be better, it will be open source, and openly maintained more readily than yours and yours WILL DIE and be forgotten. Wow only has a few years left in it to begin with though, so maybe you don't care. It's clear you're bitter though, so maybe you do care, but in the wrong way. maybe it's spite that drives you to act as you do. either way, RUMA can't come soon enough.

inb4 he blames the other people on the project for not wanting to release it to open source.
First of all, stop assuming things - such as Fataal is Christian. Lots of religions go to church and believe in God. Second, you are assuming he's getting headaches from this, I'm sure he gets some when he visits the forums and sees posts like yours - but I'm also sure he can derive some pleasure in knowing that it is *their* (is everyone forgetting the fact that there are two other people in this partnership that created Carbonite) addon and it has and still does bring plenty of happiness to people like myself who (still) enjoy using it. I'm also pretty confident in the fact that Fataal is not "hating his life" because of the addon, those are some pretty stretched assumptions to make.

I'm sure that the Carbonite team wishes the best to Rythal in his own creation. I know I do and I hope it comes out as quickly as everyone wants it. It is not clear that the addon authors are "bitter" it is an inference you make on your own interpretation. I would dare say that Fataal could be very well miffed over all that is said in the forums (I know I would be), but I certainly couldn't say it is clear.

I tend to agree with you, WoW is at it's end life and RUMA can't come fast enough. Hopefully it'll be able to replace 90% (I'm hoping for more) of what Carbonite is and does, so we don't need 10 different addons that have already been created to do the 20-25% of what Carbonite does. Lastly, I have no idea what your last sentence meant. Fataal has never directly implied that the others do not want to or he does not want to release it to the public - it is Carbonite that has said they, at this time, do not want to release it to the public or anyone else working on their addon.
 
09-16-12, 01:11 PM   #16
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