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Version: 3.4.x_WOTLK_and_ClassicEra and 9x for retail
by: MentalPower, dinesh, Esamynn, Nechckn, Norganna

Auctioneer Suite


Auctioneer Suite provides you with the tools and data necessary to make those difficult auctioning decisions with ease. From purchasing to posting, the Auctioneer Suite provides time-tested tools to allow you more time to actually play your characters or play the market. As you will soon discover, it is much more than a simple "Auctioning AddOn", the Auctioneer Suite also shows in-depth information for all game items, such as those used in quests or recipes, enchanting, milling, prospecting and more.
Numerous other AddOns will also use the Auctioneer statistics you gather via scanning. This is especially true for many of the popular crafting AddOns, such as Little Sparky's Workshop, GnomeWorks, and Skillet.


I have feedback! I have questions!


Come visit us in our slack channel that is linked at the top of https://auctioneeraddon.com .
Do you have alpha or beta versions I can use?


If you want the latest cutting edge features from our nightly builds, or even if you just want to get our stable builds a few days before we release them here, you can find them in the downloads section at https://auctioneeraddon.com/ . If you're a developer or otherwise adventurous, you can also find details there about our public git repos. And hey, why not consider joining our team?


What happened to your old forums and site?


We had a change in web hosting, and decided to use it as an opportunity to refactor and rebuild our tools and site, but it is a slow process for us since we also have to spend time maintaining the addon, especially around expansion times. We hope to have forums up and running again in the future. The wiki had been frozen for some time, but we may eventually try to revive it as well. Issues are now all being handled at GitLab.
Auctioneer Suite Details
The Auctioneer Suite contains Auctioneer, all of its modules, BeanCounter, Enchantrix and Enchantrix Barker, and Informant to help provide a comprehensive view of item data, whether at the Auction House or out questing. Some highlights are:
Appraiser


An intuitive auction posting frame.


Remembers your preferences for bid/buyout prices, stack sizes, and number of listings to post per item.
Allows queuing of auctions, so you can instruct it to list hundreds of auctions at a time. Note that Blizzard introduced a hardware event requirement to confirm each posting, but, with Appraiser's Batch Posting, you reduce the total clicks from two per auction, to one.
Allows you to specify the value price of your choice and remembers your selection
Displays competing listings, the age of the data, and allows you to sort these listings and refresh them easily.
Provides a scrollable list of all auctionable items in your bags; allowing you to quickly post all of your goods.
Provides a "Match Competition" setting which will automatically undercut your competition when posting auctions, within your parameters
Provides the ability to change to a "Simple" view; a bit like the Auctioneer Classic posting interface.
Allows you to change column width by Right-Clicking and dragging to the column width of your choice.
Allows you to post multiple auctions with the single click of the Batch Post button.
Alt+Left-Click == Refresh Pricing of all Batch Postable Items.
Shift+Left-Click == Trial or List Posting. Does not actually queue any items to post but prints the exact pricing that will be used on the Auction House in an easily readable format in the "chat window". This allows a user to verify their settings and make adjustments if necessary.
Ctrl+Shft+Alt+Left-Click == Queue all items that have the "Allow Batch Posting" checkbox selected (located at the top of the item information pane).
CompactUI


An alternative to the standard auction browsing interface.
Displays more auctions per page
Displays more data per auction
Allows you to change column width by Right-Clicking in the column heading and dragging left or right to resize the column to your liking
Provides a percentage comparison with the Market Value Statistic of your choice
Allows auctions to be color coded by price level
Allows multiple sorting options not available on the standard interface
Statistic Modules


There are a variety of fully customizable statistic modules included with Auctioneer that can provide a variety of pricing information- all based upon your needs.
"Market" - a custom designed formula that merges the various statistics into a usable price. This is the default setting and is highly recommended.
Auc-Stat-Histogram - Returns Median and IQR values, based upon a Histogram of pricing data. Essentially, a median value, based upon all prices ever seen; no data is ever discarded.
Auc-Stat-iLevel - Statistics modules that groups all items of same rarity, type, and iLevel together (e.g. all green weapons of iLevel 180). Useful for pricing random "of the ..." items.
Auc-Stat-Purchased - Statistics module that tries to infer purchase prices based on items disappearing before they could have expired. (Requires more frequent scanning of the AH)
Auc-Stat-Sales – Uses data from BeanCounter to display historical statistics on actual purchase and sale prices. Note that this statistic is installed along with BeanCounter, and cannot be installed separately.
Auc-Stat-Simple - Statistics module that performs simple averaging of data, converted daily to exponential moving averages of the orders 3, 7 and 14.
Auc-Stat-StdDev - Statistics module that keeps the last 100 price points for an item and performs a standard deviation on the data list to exclude outliers from the sample space and provide a normalized mean.
Auc-Stat-WOWEcon - Statistics module that uses the WOWEcon AddOn's data (if separately installed) to provide the price to other Auctioneer modules.
Any other stat module that you or others wish to create can be easily added to auctioneer functionality!
SearchUI


An Auctioneer Utility that prompts you when it sees auctions that fit your criteria for buying and, or, bidding.
Uses Searchers that you can customize for various desired deals such as:
Resale - Prompts you for deals based on discount from the market value, AH fee, and expected relistings
Disenchant - Prompts you for deals based on disenchanting armor and weapons
Prospecting - Prompts you for jewelcrafting deals from prospecting ores
Vendor - Prompts you for auctions listed below vendor sell price
The "RealTimeSearch" will continually reload the first and last page of the AH, within reason, as per your configuration, to find the newest bargains and auctions that are just about to come to an end. Both great times to find some amazing deals.
Piggybacks on your AH scans if allowed to do so
BeanCounter


An associated addon that tracks your bid, postings, and mail to help you determine your overall and item-specific profitability.
Creates journal entries when you bid, buy, post, or retrieve AH mail.
Provides a searchable interface that can display all activity or only certain items
Allows you to change column width by Left-Click and dragging the column to the size of your liking
Enchantrix


Enchantrix displays values for disenchanting, milling, and prospecting; plus suggested values for selling enchants. Enchantrix can also automate disenchanting, milling and prospecting. Some baseline pricing is built in, but Enchantrix also uses values from Auctioneer to provide up-to-date prices for your server/faction. Enchantrix also includes controls to let you customize the pricing by enchant material (fixed prices and weighting).
Informant


Informant displays additional information about items in their tooltips: buy price; sell price; item level; what quests, classes or professions use the item; the value of the item produced by a recipe; etc. Informant can also tell you what vendors sell a given item.
What Can Auctioneer Do to Help Me?


Once a user moves to the Auction House (AH) and beyond just buying and selling from/to vendors, the whole game changes. No longer is the user dealing with the static prices of the vendor to support their character's income. We are now dealing with the fluid and hectic nature of a dog-eat-dog market economy.
In such an economy, which is in a constant state of flux, it can be difficult to select the correct pricing points for your item at the AH. Sometimes, the prices and value of your items can be wildly different compared to the vendor price due to many factors, the value of items that can be made from your item, the use of a particular item in a quest, the suitability of a particular weapon or armor to specific classes, and the disenchantability of an item to enchanters.
Primarily, the driving factor of the price fluctuations, as in the real world is supply versus demand. When supply is high, but demand is low, competition drives the prices down, and conversely then supply is low, but demand is high, the market is driven into a sellers market.
The Auctioneer Suite can help you alleviate this lack of market knowledge over time by watching the market evolve.
When you go to the Auction House (AH) for the first time after installing Auctioneer, you will see a row of 3 buttons along the top of the main "Browse" frame, click the "play" button to begin your first scan of the entire AH. Auctioneer will begin recording statistics for every item it finds, including the bid, buyout, and more.
Once the market analysis has completed, you will notice additional information about the items in the tooltips when you mouse over them.
What happens when you go to sell items via the Auction House?


If auctioneer has enough data, when you try to put an auction up for sale, it will attempt to provide you with intelligent pricing points based upon the market data it has accumulated through scanning.
When you select an item in the full or simple "Appraiser" frame, Auctioneer will suggest a minimum price, a buyout price and display relevant data about it's decision making process in the right, receipt window, including how it has arrived at its prices.
When you place an item in the SimpleAuction, "Post" frame, Auctioneer will suggest a minimum bid, a buyout price, and display relevant data, including the deposit and more.


Happy Auctioneering!!

Auctioneeros,

This is the latest beta of Auctioneer for RETAIL World of Warcraft, 10.x pre-patch for Dragonflight.
It is a slimmed version of the suite, as many of the 'classic' features of Auctioneer Suite are included in the default AH and due to upcoming changes with crafting in Dragonflight.

Be sure to remove any previous versions of the Suite for retail, as they will cause errors and will not function.

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For the latest nightly builds, head over to our Downloads page (https://www.auctioneeraddon.com/) to get it now. If you have any issues with our releases, please join our slack channel (linked at the same page) and let us know.* *Thanks!
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Unread 09-09-09, 12:28 PM  
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Re: error

lewal,

When do you see this error, when at the AH or elsewhere? From the looks of it, there could be some issue with Postal, that is then cascading to Auctioneer. Perhaps try to update that, if there is an update or disable it and see if there are any such errors when it is deactivated.

Let us know.

Happy Sales,

Nikk

Originally posted by lewal
Date: 2009-09-01 17:09:45
ID: 1
Error occured in: Global
Count: 1
Message: ..\AddOns\DepositBox!\DepositBox!.lua line 1404:
attempt to call upvalue 'DepositBox_Original_AuctionFrameBrowse_Update' (a nil value)
Debug:
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[C]: ?
DepositBox!\DepositBox!.lua:1404: AuctionFrameBrowse_Update()
...-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Util-PriceLevel\PriceLevel.lua:51: Processor()
Auc-Advanced\CoreUtil.lua:594: SendProcessorMessage()
Auc-Advanced\CoreSettings.lua:299:
Auc-Advanced\CoreSettings.lua:153
Auc-Advanced\CoreSettings.lua:303: SetSetting()
Auc-Advanced\CoreAPI.lua:648: GetMatchers()
Auc-Advanced\CoreAPI.lua:567: GetBestMatch()
...uc-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Util-Appraiser\Appraiser.lua:316: GetPriceCore()
...uc-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Util-Appraiser\Appraiser.lua:182:
...uc-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Util-Appraiser\Appraiser.lua:158
...odules\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest.lua:213: GetAppraiserValue()
...odules\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest.lua:151: itemsuggest()
...odules\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest.lua:61: ProcessTooltip()
...odules\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest.lua:49: Processor()
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Date: 2009-09-01 17:09:45
ID: 1
Error occured in: Global
Count: 1
Message: ..\AddOns\DepositBox!\DepositBox!.lua line 1404:
attempt to call upvalue 'DepositBox_Original_AuctionFrameBrowse_Update' (a nil value)
Debug:
(tail call): ?
[C]: ?
DepositBox!\DepositBox!.lua:1404: AuctionFrameBrowse_Update()
...-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Util-PriceLevel\PriceLevel.lua:51: Processor()
Auc-Advanced\CoreUtil.lua:594: SendProcessorMessage()
Auc-Advanced\CoreSettings.lua:299:
Auc-Advanced\CoreSettings.lua:153
Auc-Advanced\CoreSettings.lua:303: SetSetting()
Auc-Advanced\CoreAPI.lua:648: GetMatchers()
Auc-Advanced\CoreAPI.lua:567: GetBestMatch()
...uc-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Util-Appraiser\Appraiser.lua:316: GetPriceCore()
...uc-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Util-Appraiser\Appraiser.lua:182:
...uc-Advanced\Modules\Auc-Util-Appraiser\Appraiser.lua:158
...odules\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest.lua:213: GetAppraiserValue()
...odules\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest.lua:151: itemsuggest()
...odules\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest.lua:61: ProcessTooltip()
...odules\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest\Auc-Util-ItemSuggest.lua:49: Processor()
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Error Message in Chat Window

First off, I already posted a comment in the Armory comments about this, but I figured I would post this here as well because it only happens when dealing with the Auctioneer window.

For a while now ('while' = a couple weeks or so), I have been getting an error message in the chat window anytime I close the auctioneer window (regardless how I close the window; i.e. the 'X' button, the 'Close' button, or the Escape key). The message is:

"[Armory]WARNING: Profession data not saved. Please use the close button to trigger an update."

Just for the record, all my addons are up to date.
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Re: Re: Re: Auctioneer and Auctioneer Suite beta for WoW 3.2.xxxx

Originally posted by forty2j
Undercut is going up to 10% below the lowest "yellow" price, with the assumption that the greens/blues are way undermarket or outliers. If there are no "yellows" (only "oranges"), undercut can sometimes result in a higher-than-market price.. which is fine, because it will probably sell anyway in comparison to the others presently listed.

If undercut is taking you below the vendor price, you might as well vendor the item or wait for a price rebound anyway, after you consider AH fees & such.
I don't even see "undercut" under the appraiser options tho...maybe the updated version will have it working right...heh..

By the way, apologies if this has been suggested before, but is there an option in Beancounter to have it grab the cash from successful auctions, while it's busy reading the incoming mail?

If there isn't such an option, would it be practical? Maybe something that checks the attachment, and if it's just a single money item, grab it?
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Re: Re: Auctioneer and Auctioneer Suite beta for WoW 3.2.xxxx

Originally posted by Redwood Elf
The results of using the options that ARE there seem to be completely random...some of them sometimes seem to be undercutting the auctions listed, but on different items, the SAME option might set the price ABOVE the shown options...or way, WAY too low....below the Vendor Price, for example.
Undercut is going up to 10% below the lowest "yellow" price, with the assumption that the greens/blues are way undermarket or outliers. If there are no "yellows" (only "oranges"), undercut can sometimes result in a higher-than-market price.. which is fine, because it will probably sell anyway in comparison to the others presently listed.

If undercut is taking you below the vendor price, you might as well vendor the item or wait for a price rebound anyway, after you consider AH fees & such.
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Exclamation Auctioneer 5.6.4424 Release for WoW 3.2

Auctioneeros,

After some difficulties, we are pleased to release Auctioneer 5.6, which is fully compatible with World of Warcraft 3.2.x.

Roughly 130 changes this time, including two fixes intended to help users work around issues introduced by Blizzard. The first issue is that new AH searches do not display the first page of results, and the other erroring, rather than providing an informational notice, to the user. To obtain the benefits of the Auc-Util-FixAH module, be certain it is installed and that there is a gold checkmark next to its entry in the main WoW AddOns Control Panel.

As shown in the “Changelog” subsection, there are numerous other fixes, enhancements, and more. Be sure to check them out!

* Please be sure to read and follow http://Wiki.Norganna.Org/Installing when upgrading your installation.

*All of the very latest http://Localizer.Norganna.Org files have been added, so all of the updates we have, you will see in your localized client.
** Please, if you have any sort of decent grasp of any of the languages, we are in need of help localizing Auctioneer, Informant, and the other AddOns listed at http://Localizer.Norganna.Org .
**"Registering" takes only moments and you can be on your way... it is quite simple. Even if you only have the time/inclination to help with a few translations, that will be better than what we have now for some of the locales.
**Before starting, kindly take a look at http://forums.norganna.org/discussio...lation-format/ for some basic thoughts.

Happy Auctioneering,

Nikk and the rest of the family at Norganna’s AddOns
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Re: Re: Auctioneer and Auctioneer Suite beta for WoW 3.2.xxxx

Redwood Elf,

With just over two million active users, including those in finance/statistics, and developers with backgrounds in computer science and statistics, the settings set the pricing to exactly what you decide. We are happy to discuss it, but need more details- something that the forums here makes a bit difficult for follow-up.

Need screen shots showing the items in question, mouse-over while holding shift, then the Appraiser frame, and any multiple pages from the competition section of the APPR frame, if they exist, and a shot of your Undercut settings to determine what price is shown, and why.

Otherwise, there are too many variables.

To do so, simply post them to http://Up.Norganna.Org and post in the main Auctioneer discussion at http://Forums.Norganna.Org/4 . You will need an account, but that takes all of about ten seconds and we do not use anyone's information for nefarious purposes.

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Originally posted by Redwood Elf
Managed to get it down to just Suggestion and the name - I guess I can live with that...at least it doesnt take up the same space as my whole backpack now.

As for Undercut...I can set the settings, but it doesn't show up in the options list on the Appraiser tab. All I want it to do is check the list that pops up at the bottom of the appraiser tab when you click on an item, showing competing auctions, and undercut the lowest one there by the undercut ammount...Of the options I see available under "Pricing model to use", I don't see simply "undercut Competing auctions" or somesuch.

The results of using the options that ARE there seem to be completely random...some of them sometimes seem to be undercutting the auctions listed, but on different items, the SAME option might set the price ABOVE the shown options...or way, WAY too low....below the Vendor Price, for example.
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Re: Auctioneer and Auctioneer Suite beta for WoW 3.2.xxxx

Originally posted by Nechckn
Redwood Elf,

Each is a totally separate AddOn, that many use without the others, so there is no easy way to make them function in such a way.

What, specifically, is not turning off that you think should be?

As to matching in Appraiser, simply select "Configure" -> Matchers -> Undercut and set to whatever value you like. Whether to use the value is then controlled by the "Use Matching" check box, per item. You can, of course, set it to default on/off in the configuration, but if you do not agree with the recommendation, it is easy enough to disable it for one item, and not all items.

Happy Sales,

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Managed to get it down to just Suggestion and the name - I guess I can live with that...at least it doesnt take up the same space as my whole backpack now.

As for Undercut...I can set the settings, but it doesn't show up in the options list on the Appraiser tab. All I want it to do is check the list that pops up at the bottom of the appraiser tab when you click on an item, showing competing auctions, and undercut the lowest one there by the undercut ammount...Of the options I see available under "Pricing model to use", I don't see simply "undercut Competing auctions" or somesuch.

The results of using the options that ARE there seem to be completely random...some of them sometimes seem to be undercutting the auctions listed, but on different items, the SAME option might set the price ABOVE the shown options...or way, WAY too low....below the Vendor Price, for example.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Auctioneer and Auctioneer Suite beta for WoW 3.2.xxxx

Redwood Elf,

Each is a totally separate AddOn, that many use without the others, so there is no easy way to make them function in such a way.

What, specifically, is not turning off that you think should be?

As to matching in Appraiser, simply select "Configure" -> Matchers -> Undercut and set to whatever value you like. Whether to use the value is then controlled by the "Use Matching" check box, per item. You can, of course, set it to default on/off in the configuration, but if you do not agree with the recommendation, it is easy enough to disable it for one item, and not all items.

Happy Sales,

Nikk



Originally posted by Redwood Elf
Well, was looking for a simple "don't use the tooltip options in the entire suite" checkbox or something...still can't find a way to turn off everything but the normal default tooltips.

Also, there's some strange behavior in the appraiser...I don't see an "undercut by X%" or somesuch option for autopricing...am I missing something?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Auctioneer and Auctioneer Suite beta for WoW 3.2.xxxx

Originally posted by Nechckn
What value in the tooltip?

There are values assigned by Enchantrix, for instance, and perhaps BeanCounter.

To hide tooltips unless Alt is held, for instance, that is under the General options of Auctioneer, Enchantrix, Informant, and BeanCounter.
Well, was looking for a simple "don't use the tooltip options in the entire suite" checkbox or something...still can't find a way to turn off everything but the normal default tooltips.

Also, there's some strange behavior in the appraiser...I don't see an "undercut by X%" or somesuch option for autopricing...am I missing something?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Auctioneer and Auctioneer Suite beta for WoW 3.2.xxxx

RedwoodElf,

What value in the tooltip?

There are values assigned by Enchantrix, for instance, and perhaps BeanCounter.

To hide tooltips unless Alt is held, for instance, that is under the General options of Auctioneer, Enchantrix, Informant, and BeanCounter.

Auctioneer and it's submodules have an additional area where you can enable/disable different statistics modules, for instance. It is in the options, as well.

Happy Sales,

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Originally posted by Redwood Elf
Never used it before...I note there's no configuration screen...How do I turn off the extended tooltips (and why do they appear on soulbound items anyway...those aren't sellable)

Edit: Found the configuration pane...but even turning off ALL the tooltip options, the extended tooltip still shows up.

And there doesn't appear to be a "How to turn off the tooltips" on the website.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Auctioneer and Auctioneer Suite beta for WoW 3.2.xxxx

Never used it before...I note there's no configuration screen...How do I turn off the extended tooltips (and why do they appear on soulbound items anyway...those aren't sellable)

Edit: Found the configuration pane...but even turning off ALL the tooltip options, the extended tooltip still shows up.

And there doesn't appear to be a "How to turn off the tooltips" on the website.
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Redwood Elf,

It depends, do you have the AuctioneerDB enabled? If so, that is where the value was originating. If not, then, the iLevel statistic could have been providing a value based on the item's level, and some other related elements. Have you ever had Auctioneer in the past? If so, then the value was from before. The statistics are kept entirely separate from the "program" portion, so someone may well have had one listed for that amount when you last "saw" one on the AH, even if it was months ago.

Without seeing a screenshot of the extended tooltip at the time, it is nearly impossible to say for certain.

Regardless, if you are initially installing or if you took a while away from the game, you should scan for at least a few days before you base any decision upon the pricing recommendations as those recommendations are only as good as the statistics you have gathered to support them.

Happy Sales,

Nikk

Originally posted by Redwood Elf
Ah, thanks for clarifying...I had assumed that the weird readings I'd gotten on some items early on were do to a particular shortage of that item on the test server...

So if the initial estimate isn't based on actual AH data, what IS it based on?

For example, it was giving an initial estimate for "Darkmoon Card: Berserker!" of around 4000 gold, while the actual going price on the server I'm on is around 300 gold. Is it computing an estimate of the card based on the cost of getting each of the initial component cards, or is the software just putting a more or less random number, based on the level of the item and the stats, or something?
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Re: Re: Re: Auctioneer and Auctioneer Suite beta for WoW 3.2.xxxx

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Redwood Elf,

There is no data set included with Auctioneer. It is up to the individual user to scan the AH to obtain such information by scanning, recommended two times per day for at least a week before giving *any* weight to the suggestions.
Ah, thanks for clarifying...I had assumed that the weird readings I'd gotten on some items early on were do to a particular shortage of that item on the test server...

So if the initial estimate isn't based on actual AH data, what IS it based on?

For example, it was giving an initial estimate for "Darkmoon Card: Berserker!" of around 4000 gold, while the actual going price on the server I'm on is around 300 gold. Is it computing an estimate of the card based on the cost of getting each of the initial component cards, or is the software just putting a more or less random number, based on the level of the item and the stats, or something?
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Redwood Elf,

There is no data set included with Auctioneer. It is up to the individual user to scan the AH to obtain such information by scanning, recommended two times per day for at least a week before giving *any* weight to the suggestions.

Even afterward, it still is just a tool providing more information to help in any buying and selling, the responsibility for choosing which items to attempt to capitalize upon falls upon the user having a good working knowledge of their specific realm/faction. Even then, as in any such activity in life, their is risk, and that risk has to be included in such decisions.

If you never had Auctioneer installed, at any time in the past, and have never scanned the Auction House, the only data that possibly could display is that of AuctioneerDB, which, as noted in the tooltip, is set by default to global realm pricing.

AuctioneerDB is a separate tool from Auctioneer, but is included in the Suite. People upload their accumulated statistics to the servers and, if there is local data available, can be used; if not, the default is to use the global values. Should anyone not desire its input into Market Price, simply disable AuctioneerDB from the options. It does not include data from any test servers, though, only live, legal realms.

The servers and service for AuctioneerDB are undergoing a major upgrade at present, and as such do are not accepting data. When finished, and ready to process more data, a notice will be placed at the main http://AuctioneerAddOn.com site. The site to obtain updated data files and share data is http://AuctioneerDB.com .

Hopefully that explains any odd values displayed.

Happy Sales,

Nikk


Originally posted by Redwood Elf
Word of caution to first time Auctioneer users: Be sure to wait a couple of days before jumping into the "resale" option and trying to make thousands of gold reselling high end items that Auctioneer thinks are way, way undervalued.

The "Market" estimates that load initially are NOT based on local conditions, but on prevailing conditions on the server on which the beta was tested. So even though it may SAY that it's basing it's data on 30 "found items", be sure to check to see whether the two that it says are undervalued are actually the only two currently for sale on the server, and it's basing it's undervalue of #,000 gold on data that was valid for the testing server, but not for your local one.

In short: buy low, sell high, and let Auctioneer get a good data sample of local conditions before jumping right in and investing a thousand gold or so on items that you later will find you can't sell for a profit.
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