An old saying...
Modified to reflect Carbonite's slow progression...
"The less things change, the more they stay the same!" :rolleyes: |
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Only this month. |
Actually, Carbonite progresses rather fast. What is nice and slow are official releases, but Rythal has been firm that he wants to take the time to make things run smooth before releasing, since he'll be offroads a few weeks without the chance to fix things.
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An even better saying; When you learn to accept instead of expect, you'll have fewer disappointments.
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preach on sister
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(incorrect) You said this earlier, and it's what got me thinking about 'update patches'. EDITED: changed the above comment "You said this earlier..." to read "ircdirk said this earlier..." ircdirk said this earlier, and it's what got me thinking about 'update patches'. "Rythal when are u plannig next release? Many fixes have been made in GitHub. Users are still reporting issues that are already fixed." http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/s...00&postcount=7 |
Wonderful how you put ircdirk's question out of context. But don't you fret, I have already proposed a more transparent and open release process to improve that issue.
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*Chuckles* Actually, not to be nit picky, but the saying in question goes, "The more things change, the more they stay the same."
But its true that Carbonite, under the auspices of Rythal and the other developers is moving much faster than the alerts and messages concerning them. You have to consider, too, that they're dealing with hundreds, possibly even thousands, of lines of code (I've never looked at the source to see which), and believe me, after a while, hundreds or thousands of lines of code start to run together, and everything can look like a jumbled mess. Do this every day, and almost everything looks like it has code, from kids messing around in the kitchen, to morning traffic. The bottom line is they know you want Carbonite up and functional, and they're trying to achieve that for you. Such things, unfortunately, take time. Its not pretty, its not pleasant, but it is, unfortunately, the way the universe works. Being impatient only makes the wait seem that much longer, and exercising that impatience only impedes what success is already being accomplished, because they're having to reassure you that success is, in fact, being achieved, just not according to the schedules of those impatient hordes that insist on demanding an update or badgering the developers, or some other such nonsense (I'm not saying this is you, just a general statement). Anyway, that's my two cents' worth |
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I don't how my comment was out of context. I'm looking at the Live version from a user's point of view, not from a developer's view point. If the Live version doesn't get even partially updated, athough there is "some" already-corrected code available, then the Live version remains the same. Hence, my statement "The less things change, the more they stay the same!" was meant to say that the Live version still remains the same. Not the working GitHub code. You folks are doing great with that. I guess it's only my sense of humor that is being misunderstood. I did not intend to open this can of worms! Sorry. I wish Cairenn would delete this entire thread! I was only hoping that the finished, good code in the GitHub could be added to the Live version as in interim 'patch' before Rythal left town. EDITED: clarification... HOPING -- not demanding, insisting, etc. |
You have put his question out of context by referencing it alone instead of its position within the thread, thus removing Rythal's answer.
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I've seen no mention as to when Rythal will actually be leaving. It doesn't matter anyway. I'll be happy to get any fixes to Carbonite whenever they are available. I'm happy with what has been done so far. :) |
Hey, I am just happy that Rythal integrated changes into Carbonite so the Wholly map pins work properly. :)
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If they don't do something soon and there is interest I might upload the files I changed (should see there terms first tough). |
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Btw., Rythals last activity was "Yesterday 09:45 PM" (citated from his forum profile). So he's very probably not yet abroad.
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He is "the boss" we cant do much with out him...
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...at least we can't put up new releases on curse and WoWInterface.
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An attempt to add a little humor...
Here's a link to a sound file which might be appropriate right now. :cool: It's from the 1967 movie "Cool Hand Luke." Note: I found the following link on wiki.com http://www.destgulch.com/movies/luke/luke18.wav And additional longer version of the same audio clip: http://www.wavlist.com/movies/201/chl-communicate.wav |
Also remember that you need only click the link in ircdirk's signature to get the very lastest version of Carbonite from github. ;)
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Latests GitHub version is really Release Candidate so it probably be the next Live version. As to GitHub versions of Carb, normal users could use it too, we cant test all. The thing is that bugs/issues/errors sould be reported to GitHub interface (https://github.com/Rythal/Carbonite/issues) not here. |
Hi ircdirk,
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ircdirk, you posted this earlier, and it was also in my own post #6 in this thread. "Rythal when are u plannig next release? Many fixes have been made in GitHub. Users are still reporting issues that are already fixed." There is no actual (announced) BETA Version of Carbonite. If some users begin using the GitHub versions instead of the Live version, they would have to register with GitHub and learn how to use it merely to report bugs, questions, comments, etc. That would interfere terribly with the actual Developer's efforts. In my opinion, normal users should not be posting in the GitHub. You said: Quote:
Why can't the "Release Candidate" be offered eventually as a BETA version instead of calling it a Live version? That way, it would no longer be in the GitHub and could be posted in a new sub-forum named: ["Carbonite: BETA Version -- Post comments or errors here ONLY if you are using the BETA!"]. Users wouldn't need to join GitHub and maybe the "double-posting" of errors could be avoiding? As it is now, the Live version is being used as a BETA version, or at least it appears that way to me. The naming scheme is confusing. Is the "Live" version actually meant to be called a "Release" version, or is an actual Release version something which will be posted in the future? My apologies if I wrote too much. It's now 3:00am my time, so I'm a little tired. Sorry. |
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As for Beta version of Carbonite: BETA = GitHub now and users who USES GitHub version SOULD and i will write it twice SOULD post issues on Github. As there is special interface for that (more simple than this forum). Posting issues helps developers, as on github everything is connected with each other. As for Release Candidates, they will be on GitHub, i dont think we will post them twice here and on GitHub. Every one can download those when they want. |
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If the GitHub version is the most current version (even though it's a Development version), then why is the forum and its Carbonite-Live version-Sub-forums being used to post errors? There is even a Sub-forum for Development (which means GitHub)! Isn't that making it 2 or 3 different places to report the same errors? [GitHub version, Live version, and Developer's Sub-forum]? The only place I ever saw the word "BETA" is in your signature (in your posts), but I thought that was a typo. -- I just don't understand, but that's nothing new. :) |
Actually, it is rather simple. You don't need to register on github to download the developer version (or beta), but you do to submit issues there. Since not everyone wants to create such an account, they post the bugs on here, where they are already registered, which regularly leads to the question which version is used.
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Word BETA is used for development versions of some program/addon etc. and development version of Carbonite is maintained in GitHub, simple.
p.s. my english is not so good so thats might be confusing |
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