Carbonite outdated ?
 

Hi

When i log into wow i keep seeing a error that carbonite is outdated.
I have downloaded the latest version on wowinterface.com which is 4.220
is there a newer version then this and if so where can i find it ?

4.22 is the current version for wow 4.2. Try asking in the Carbonite forums area. Maybe someone was beta testing an updated version for them or maybe its an known issue.

In my opinion the addon simple checks a date of last update and when there is
no update for long time ,it prints the message about that it is pretty old,it doesnt matter if there is a new version or not ...
So just the best option is ignore it ...

Thank you all :)

The developers really no longer "develop" this addon, but bug fix it(which I wholeheartedly appreciate!). It's commonplace now to get the nag(based on a timestamp) until the next big patch, at which time the addon breaks and we all come running back to the forum speculating about the devs' absence until they post a fixed beta. Then we get one or two updates to fix the obvious errors, rinse and repeat.

I'll see you guys when the next patch hits! :D

If (like me) your sick and tired of the message flooding your chat box everytime you login do this

open up Carbonite.ua (World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Carbonite) in wordpad or notepad (i use notepad++)

do a search for "111122" (2011, Nov, 22)

change it do another date id suggest 121122 that way you get 1 year before the msg repeats itself.

Yea the notification is pointless lol. Thanks for the tip on how to get rid of it :)

Carbonite 4.22
 

I've read over these forums, and I think Carbonite is broken now. It worked fiarly decently with 4.2, but now that 4.3 is out I'm getting so many lua errors referring back to Carbonite that WoW forcefully disables all of my addons. I sat for two minutes watching the lua error message box count up all the Carbonite addons. It was well over 500 errors.

I just hope they update this addon for the new patch because it's been one of the MOST helpful questing addons available right now.

It usually takes a few days to get the kinks out. PTR never gives the devs everything they need to know to make this bestest of addons work right out of the shoot on live day. They also don't normally answer a lot of questions as it takes away from fixing the bugs. The best way to show your support and interest is to DONATE. For my money, this is the best addon for most of what you ask of the game. Yeah yeah yeah. You use this and that and whatever. If Carbonite wasn't as good as it is, Blizzard wouldn't be stealing so much of it to update their crappy UI. So pony up your appreciation. I sure will come Friday and payday. :banana:

edited for spelling errors...this cold medicine is killer. *sneeze*

Very optimistic, however judging by past big patch drops, completely wrong.

Carbonite is no longer actively developed. Every large patch, everyone visits, freaks out in the forums(and some predict the addons demise), then someone gets hold of a developer and we get a beta in a day or so, then the final in a few more.

When an early patch for cataclysm dropped, the dev posted stating that they were "taken by surprise" at it's release because they weren't playing the game but would get us an updated version. And they did.

I've taken the liberty of emailing the address of record for the carboniteaddon.com domain and hopefully we'll see an updated version in a few days.

You're wrong.

I was probably among one of the first 50 people to send in a 3 month payment for Carbonite when it was completely ran on their own web site. They were tireless in answering questions and were always right on top of every single bug that we reported. We never had to wait more than a few days for major lua errors to be fixed, and we always had a smooth running update the day of major patch releases.

One thing changed. Blizz stopped allowing payments for addons. Right after that was a drastic change with the Carbonite developers. No timely updates and no support. They will never get another dime from me.

Ble ble :(
Isn't is there the way how how to fool the blizzard addon policy ? For example zygor guide offers an addon for free but the guide is paid ...
I was subscriber original carbonite (the best spendied money ever ),and donate 50 usd (i know that is not much but i from a poor country in the europe) ...
Have any an idea how to make the carbonite to alive ?
J.K.

No, there is not.

Zygor has not broken any of Blizzards policies.

The next time this message will appear is

March 27th 2012.

So you won't give a dime to them because they have decided to move on and put this addon on maintenance only level of development? Maybe it's because it is no longer their primary source of money.

If you made something that people had to pay for get, then some person walked along and told you, you can't charge for it. Would you keep focusing on it?

Quit bitching, the prime dev is a family man who doesn't even play wow anymore. At least he comes back for the patches.

Yes, I would. I'm not so greedy that I would forget about the community that supported me.

I'll bitch if I so desire. I'm allowed to voice my dislikes, disappointments, feelings, and opinions as long as I do so while not breaking the forum rules. Put me on ignore if you don't wish to see it, or practice what you preach.

Haavok and I actually do have full time jobs and wives and kids. We put an update out 48 hours after the patch came out. How is that "forgetting"?

Unfortunately, this is the "instant gratification" age. In this context, some people just can't stand it when their favorite add-on doesn't work to their satisfaction, they report the "bug", and the devs don't come out with an update in 0.42 milliseconds. :roll eyes:

Keep up the good work, devs!:banana:

And this was the latest post by either carboniteaddon or havoc. So 4 mo's + and they haven't even responded to a single post. I would say they have abandoned their obligations, I sure hope people are not STILL giving them money as they have in essence quit. BTW havoc has not even LOGGED into the site wowinterface in over 4 months much less done anything, I would say its safe to assume he doesn't care anymore. I mean even with jobs, kids and a life it takes what 5 seconds to open your browser and go to the site.

What "obligation"?

If I were a dev, and people repeatedly posted that I didn't care, that I had abandoned my "obligation", I would rapidly come to the conclusion that I not only don't care, I shouldn't care. Screw 'em. I applaud Haavok and Faatal because they resisted that reaction for so long.

If you're convinced that "the devs don't care" and "carbonite is dead", then you might as well just quietly go away and find yourself another map add-on, or use the standard Blizz map. There's no point, if that's your opinion, in necroing old threads just so you can whine some more.:(

Please excuse my ignorance, but, what "obligations"?

Authors write and publish addons for free. An argument could even be made that they do it as a hobby. They have no "obligations" to anyone as far as addons are concerned. If an author chooses to abandon a project, they are under no obligation to even notify the public that they are choosing to do so. However, the authors of Carbonite have posted at least once (and possibly more than once) that they have no intention of abandoning this (Carbonite) project, and that they have every intention of notifying their users (of Carbonite) if, or when, that event might happen.

So, what obligations, please?

There absolutely is a POINT. And its a rather good one. A new to the game/community player might naively think that clicking those donation buttons that are still active, would serve a purpose. When in fact it does not. The developers have quite obviously abandoned this project, but in their supreme integrity left the donation buttons active.

I have noticed posts recently by people stating they have just now donated, thinking this is to help the dev's of an active mod. This is wrong if the dev isn't even logging onto the website for 4 months. Well what exactly is he collecting donations for? Past work?

Integrity would lead you to think one way, Maybe if I am done with this I should stop taking money for it. Greed would lead you another way, Hmmm people are still donating, hey lets collect as much as we can from this train til it stops. I mean hell I earned it for my work in the past RIGHT.


Whatever, look at it however you want. I thankfully have integrity. I was simply hoping to warn off less observant people, and save them their hard earned money in this calamitous economy. But hey you have a good day.

Sorry, I'm not seeing what the devs are doing wrong here. Dude's got a job and a family and he still keeps the addon up to date. What is it you expect him to do?

Also, if you're giving money and expecting something in return, that's not a donation. A donation by definition is a gift.

@Morpheus: be careful there. You can break an arm patting yourself on the back like that.

As for the rest, what beef said.:cool:

How about obligations to those that paid for the addon before it went free? Or obligations to those that donated for the addon even after it went free? As I recall, the paid version prior to going free included free updates as part of that for the life of the addon. If the life of the addon is done, then just say so.

I agree that those that haven't ever paid anything for it really don't have a leg to standon... It isn't very hard as a developer to at least keep the addon updated such that the "your Carbonite is outdated" message never shows or that the TOC stays up to date.


(As a side note, I paid for Carbonite before it went free and have donated since as well... I'm also an addon author... just so you don't think I'm being biased.)

HERE HERE!!!

Well said, Sir.

Just a heads up that someone is logged into the Carboniteaddon account and at least 15 minutes ago was in the process of replying to this thread :)

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If you want to get technical, Carbonite, years ago, was sold as a subscription. Updates were provided only to active subscribers. Those subscriptions have all since expired.

The license (CarboniteLicenseAgreement.txt) has always stated:

NO WARRANTY. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", "AT YOUR OWN RISK", AND WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, COMPANY HEREBY DISCLAIMS ALL EXPRESS AND IMPLIED CONDITIONS, REPRESENTATIONS AND WARRANTIES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR NON-INFRINGEMENT OF ANY THIRD PARTY RIGHTS WITH RESPECT TO THE SOFTWARE. COMPANY DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE SOFTWARE IS ERROR-FREE OR THAT ACCESS TO THE SOFTWARE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED AND WITHOUT COMPROMISE TO SECURITY SYSTEMS.

Carbonite is currently available free of charge. Donations are accepted based on whatever reason someone decides to give us money. No decision has been made by us on the future of Carbonite. I would like to see it continue in some form. Opening up some of the data files, so that others could contribute by editing them easily is one possibility.

Thanks for the update Faatal. As much as I love Carbonite I've started using other full ui replacements that don't play nice with anything. I know there is a following here and even if y'all just open up the files so that others can work on it that may keep it going.

thx for the update

Thank you for the Update. I truly do hope that you do continue with this addon due to it is one of my favorite ones of the many that I use. :banana:

I hope there will be Carbonite to MOP.
I love this addon:eek:

i donated to the ronald mcdonald foundation a little while ago... i went into mcdonalds the other day and demanded free food.. i payed for a donation awhile ago damnit i want my food im entitled to...thats what you whining people sound like... THE DEVS HAVE A DAMN LIFE...WOW AINT THEIR LIFE.. they are not married to wow or play for that matter... quit the bitching... if i were them ide say"F#*k this im done"

Show some gratitude...
 

@joshcha
Haha, EXACTLY. You donate money, then whine that you didn't get something from it? I think you should visit your local library, find a dictionary, and look up the word "Donate".

Personally, i'm glad to see that the addon is still perfectly useable. One of my favs. I won't even log on wow unless it's installed. Amazing addon, and i sincerely thank the authors for the time they SPENT on writing it, and SPEND on making sure it's still useable - even if it's no longer "priority one". :)

I have to say when the whole you cant pay for addons or else bull**** was implemented I went o bat for you guys just so you know :)

When you said opening up some of the data files... I think my request would be make the lua files readable :p That's all then Im sure the community as a whole could help you make updates without actually having to do any work :banana:

Anyhow thanks love you guys :)

You know there Hilltop67 hate to say this here but that is blackmail out right and you have made public record of it and if you was to pursue a lawsuit I would make sure this would make light :banana::banana: .... Key words "we assisted" meaning that you didn't have to give any thing at all any lawyer would tell you that :D

end(ish) of Carbonite
 

Thanks for the heads up, I have donated in the past as this imho was really the best map/quest tracker/loot and money mod out there and am gonna be sad to see it go. But thanks for some closure. I understand things change, people get busy, real life gets in the way. I do think that if you do plan on keeping the donations page up you could at least tell people that there's a very good chance that it will never be updated past 4.3 otherwise it's kinda deceptive as folk assume that they are donating and supporting an active mod. This forces my hand though :( I will have to find a replacement now. Wow that sucks... :(

update in the future?
 

All of the preceeding nonsense aside, including the dire threats to the developers, my statement and question is simple and in two parts:

1. I LOVE Carbonite and have depended on it for the 2 years of my WOW addiction - thank you developers for the product. I've donated in the past and would glady do so again in the future.

2. Will there be a further update and if so when? I appreciate that the developers have lives and if no further updates are anticipated, then I'll (sadly) look for a replacement addon.

For the Alliance!

I understand that the addon isn't a priority right now but with new zones appearing I'd hope to at least see their maps added. It's so annoying have to hide my carbonite map :(

My thinking is to make the map data tables a separate file, so others could add or edit zones.
I would also fix basic errors caused by changes in the expansion.

Those would keep the addon usable for and after the expansion.

Faatal said "no decision has been made on the future of Carbonite". I presume that if/when such a decision is made, it will be announced here. "Waiting is," as the Martian said.:cool:

And I see that in his latest post, Faatal implies intent to at least fix errors and so keep the add-on working in future.

Glad to see some response.
I aswell donated in the past.. I don't mind doing it again.
Especially if the devs make it possible for other addon authors or supporters to keep the addon updated.
Carbonite has been a major help for me during questing and even in the bg's

I hope they make up their mind soon so that we can all enjoy the product again.
I was excited when a new release popped up on my screen, but was rather disappointed that the only fix that came with it was the version check

Changes: 4.301

Fixed warning that version is old.

I know it's a project / addon no warranties and such.. but if you guys plan to stop development on the addon please give it back to the supporting community.. with your help we can make it again the best addon out there.

After having done this (more than a month or more ago), it worked --- up until today, when it stated again. I need to do it again, but your instructions are only partially complete.

I cannot do a search (of the Carbonite.lua) for the date you specified, since that date, or whatever date I and others may have placed in there) won't be in the current ".lua" code. I forgot what date I entered, therefore cannot search for it.

What I'd prefer to know (and, at this point, need to know) is the information in the appropriate line item that precedes the date(s). My .lua script file is not numbered, so I need to find the proper line by searching for it.

I, and maybe others, will appreciate your help. Thanks!

NOTE: AFTER WRITING THIS, I THEN FOUND THAT IT'S NOT MY 'DATE' SETTINGS AT FAULT. APPARENTLY, SOME SORT OF NEW UPDATE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN RELEASED. BUT, IT WASN'T EVEN MENTIONED UNDER THE 'DOWNLOADS' SECTION ON THE CARBONITEADDON HOMEPAGE. THAT STILL SHOWS THAT THE LAST RELEASE WAS WAY BACK IN DEC OF 2011.

Apparently when they fixed the nag message they rewrote, re-ordered, or added(?) some other things.

The date you're looking for is 120807, and it is now on line 13967. I had to find it by searching for the function line "function Nx.Sec:VaT()" which is the function the message is part of. That function starts on line 13965 and ends on line 13973. Nine lines of code, but one of them occasionally causes some serious irritation. :rolleyes:

I'm not too sure why you would have to change the date, though. If you updated Carbonite to the latest (4.301) version, the nag is gone. You'll start getting it again on August 7, 2012 if there are no further updates til then.

Thanks, Jeffy162. That function name is what I was hoping to get. I appreciate it.

I noticed that somebody fixed only 1 thing in this 'patch'. However, along the way, something else got corrupted. I posted that in a separate topic early this morning. That bug has disappeared, mysteriously, since I posted about it.

1 little date-nag fix in nearly 6 months. Jee Whiz. But, I still love this addon, even as broken as it is!

Thank you for replying!

You're welcome. Glad I could help.

I am in the same situation with Carbonite.
It is now actively slowing down my game and I have to look for alternatives. This is a shame as it was really quite good.

That would be FANTASTIC, as truth be told the part I can't seem to live without or find a replacement for is the fantastic and irreplaceable Map.

Oh how short memories are today. The authors of Carbonite aren't unreasonable, they are just adults with lives away from WoW. All those throwing about the recent rage should look back and see what has gone before. If the maps were parsed out to a different folder, we wouldn't have half the drama seen over time. Still, even if everything was running perfectly someone would find a reason to rage.

Only thing I can contribute to these Carbonite threads is add; maybe users don't need a nag message? I mean if they run an old version they probably experience problems, so they check wowi/curse regardless and look if there is an update, hehe. ;)

In any case, the version nagging is a bit overkill atm. ^^