Carbonite 5.0
 

FYI: I am working on a 5.0 version of Carbonite. Three bugs have been fixed. I'm working on another I just found. It looks like I need to add info for new maps. I hope to have something out tonight.

Thanks for the update. Look forward to seeing your updated version. :)

Yes! Yes! Yes!

:D

awesome that nearly 2 weeks after a patch comes out that the original addon writer has finally had the nerve to say something after the hundreds of posts asking where he has been.

go crawl back under your stone and come back, after you've gotten the knowledge of how hard it is to code a addon even a simple one is more work then doing it in one day so go and shut up

Goodness, yes! Agreeing with Animalm4st3r!

This is the best add-on I've ever used, and I'm just happy that this team has chosen to keep up with it. I've been very happy, in the meantime, for the fan update that has been provided to fill in the gap, because I was NOT having fun finding several different programs to do just half of what Carbonite does for the game!

Thank you, development team, for a wonderful add-on, and thank you over and over again for going on with it, now!

sigh.. you people do not understand
 

First of all, Faatal, thank you for getting this done for us. It is very much appreciated as carbonite is one of my favorite addons. Second of all. You people may not realize that Faatal really does not play wow anymore. at least the last time i heard. It was his son that made him aware. In other words, This gentleman is taking the time to support an addon that he does not really use anymore. Correct me if i am wrong though, Faatal. Though there are some of us that have donated to support him in the past, there is nothing that says that he should take the kind of grief that some of you people are giving him. He does not have to update anything. This is a free addon. I feel that some of you have unrealistic expectations..


Thanks

no one said it was easy to code...what isn't hard is to take a few minutes of time to come on this site and answer one simple question which needs a Y or N answer. that is all everyone here wanted, including the fan who was helping out everyone else in the meantime.

go find your own stone and some manners, because a lot of people made every effort to contact the owners/authors...they couldn't have been unaware. i work more than one job, and i'm busy as heck, but i still check my email and answer my phone. that part isn't hard.

with that being said, i'm glad the authors are back to work on this...hoping we have a great version to guide our travels by the time MoP goes live...i'm sure we're all eager to test the updates! :cool:

Fataal,

Thank you very much for your attention and attempt to quickly fix this for all of us. If you're still reading, I think the community definitely wants to put a word in for Rythal, if you and Havok would be interested in opening up your code and workings for this fan to help update and enhance your work.

Also, if you do read most of the forum, please don't let them get you down with their doubts. I (and I assume most people) really appreciate your time and understand that life brings many challenges and busy schedules that are much more important than this game!

Ty
 

Ty for the update :) :banana:

awesome
 

so i cant wait for the update i have been so lost without carbonite . :)
ahhh hurry hurry hurry hurry lol jk jk .take your time we want it done right

There was no answer, since nothing was decided until yesterday.

I did get a few personal emails the last few weeks and I answered them. I said nothing was decided. I told a person last week I would be looking at it this weekend and I am. I did not know a patch was released, since no one actually said that in the emails. I don't play WoW anymore except for testing the addon.

faatal u are awesome for still doing what you do with the addon. Carbonite makes things in game so much easier. and again i cant wait for the update things will be back to normal as soon as it is done :p:banana:

I am new to these forums (not all forums, just these for Carbonite). I would like to know if you still can use monetary support/donations, or if it really doesn't matter (for instance, if you're not sure you will keep on from one patch to the next).

If you could still use donations, I will make one...can't be much, but I would like to support this add-on, if it will help. I wish I was a programmer--I'd offer to help in that way. However, since that isn't the case, I will donate at least a little something.

I, by the way, am nearly 63 years old--the mother of six grown children who have presented me with 16 grandchildren (17 coming up in November). I started playing WoW only 5 years ago, but only began using Carbonite after Cata came out. I love it, and depend on it.

Thank you again.

Well brace for the fact that there will be another patch on the release of MoP just to clean up from the massive change the world will get.

Also considering that i play wow quite often you could send me your email and i will let you know when a major patch is out or at lease when carbonite is not working for wow.

5.041 is released.

If you have moved on from WoW any thoughts on donating the addon to the community? I would hope there would be a number of authors capable and willing of upholding its standards.
I know this is your baby and frankly its epic work as demonstrated by the complete lack of anything even similar in scope within the map category. Any decision is obviously entirely yours to make but it is a bit sad to those of us who love it that the best we can hope for is maintenance updates. Who knows what an infusion of new energy could progress the project to.

Umm yea
 

I've been following this since 5.04. And I for one am extremely happy with what Rythal did for you. Which was fix YOUR addon and I read this entire thread and not once did you thank him. Not once did you thank the people here for their support of you. Honestly your answers seem smug and condescending. If you no longer play wow, or you cannot keep up with supporting this addon, or you cannot even pay enough attention to the fact there is a LONG AWAITED patch and xpack (which you should have known about), THEN DON'T DEVELOP THE ADD ON. Give it to somebody else to continue to work on. There are several people who were more then happy to step up and continue the work on the addon. I wonder how much money you made from us while you were not even knowing there was a patch? This is not a troll I am not attempting to flame etc I'm just stating how I feel. It's time we stop making excuses for these people who could care less about the people who use their products. If you have a Job, and you are too busy or if you don't play anymore THEN DON'T PUBLISH AN ADDON. Thank You.

Where has it been released to?

The website has two locations referencing latest updates, and one of them is:

http://www.carboniteaddon.com/download.shtml

It doesn't mention version 5.xxx?

EDITED: Never mind my post here. I found the link to the new download in a "Sticky" which wasn't mentioned in the Topic post. Sorry!:o

By the way, Faatal, thank you!

Sorry, I totally forgot about the website. Just updated it. Thx.

Now is this the full update/rewrite that carbonite so badly needed or just another bandaid update like the last one

It is our addon. We did not ask, nor do we want someone else modding it.

I won't tell you to work for free or give your property away, so please don't tell us what we should do with our property.

I think my answers have been direct and to the point, but that is just my opinion.

Hrm..quick question...i noticed when I was installing the latest update that the files that were replacing the files from the May update were from 2007....is this normal? I am suddenly alarmed I have suddenly roll backed my carbonite a hundred years or something.

Version 5.041 do not work at me. no quest tracker, i don't can open tha map (same as the original map) and the questlog is the original blizzard questlog.There is too no welcome logo of carbonite and the only i can see, that carbonite is acitivated is, that the little carbonite symbol is shown at the minimap. it seems, that carbonite is not activated, but it is! anyone else with this probz? German WoW Client

Pls add italian translation

The same problem here. Also German WOW Client. It doesn´t work.:confused:

Wow..have you lost your mind? Neither Faatal OR Rythal HAD to do anything to this addon. The carbonite authors owe us nothing at all. This entire addon is voluntary. Frankly, the authors could shut down this website right now and there wouldn't be a dang thing we could do about it. They are busy, life happens. And for those of you saying "well they SHOULD have answered us", there is no SHOULD in this situation. Now, grow up and be grateful. I know I am...to all of those involved keeping this addon alive. Instead of complaining, say THANK YOU.

THANK YOU Faatal and thank you again Rythal. My game is much more enjoyable with this addon and I appreciate all the time and work that has gone into this.

Sure, thats your addon and no one trying to steal or take it from you. But one thing bothers me - database. Ore, herbs, inns and mailboxes, etc... Why not keep core to yourself and let fans of this wonderful addon to maintain database?

Quest Log is not working
 

I do apologize, after all of the hard work that has gone into getting this up and running I really hate to have to post an ooops something isn't quite right :(

Carbonite Quest Log which worked yesterday is now appearing once after I first login to a toon and is blank when it does show up (stayed blank even tho I left it up for 20 minutes hoping it just need time to aquire the info), when I try it again Blizzards Quest Log shows up no matter what I click.
My Maps from what I've seen so far are working beautifully. I still have the Carbonite Quest Objectives in place just not the log so I can't change what is being tracked.
I have tried reset, reload UI, I disabled all of my other addons. Cleared Carbonites Saved Variables after backing them up just to see & still not working :(

If it weren't for Carbonite & a couple of other addons, I would seriously have to rethink where I put the entirety of my personal entertainment budget.
When I don't have my Carbonite it takes at least 5x as long to accomplish anything ingame, sometimes more... & I find myself far less tolerant of Blizz Bugs :D
So thank you so much Faatal & you as well Rythal. This last couple of weeks has given me a much deeper appreciation of everything that goes into even the simplest of addons let alone something like this one.

So i have no idea what happend ...

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Keeps popping up in the map screen.

well I understand where your coming from.
But I just don't know how to reply to this? :eek:

edit.

I can't live out Carbonite And I Thank Rythal for taking a big chance and doing a fan update.
Like him I hope the dev's come back and update.... and even maybe let Rythal join there team

I'm sorry, I'm glad that the developers are back on carbonite, but I have to ask, for how long? The fact that some random guy fixed your add-on better than you did should tell you something. You had a fantastic opportunity here and you tossed it aside. Had you teamed up with Rythal you would have had an add-on that was 90% fixed and you could have fine tuned it or worked on aesthetics. Instead, you're sitting there now trying to fix the bugs people have already reported to Rythal.

Of course that's assuming you're still working on it. Considering the fact that WoW is an ever changing beast with updates and patches galore, I find it disconcerting that there was nothing from you in four months. I really do understand that life gets busy, but considering the fact that you're the only add-on out there that is licensed (or at least one of a very few), that infers you've made a commitment to it.

You said that you don't make money off of carbonite. I can't say that I'm surprised. I for one am not going to donate money for you to be busy for four months at a time only to come back and half fix the bugs some of which have been in it since I first started using carbonite 2 years ago. It's a fantastic add-on. It is one of the most useful add-ons out there, but it could be better. I think it's time you admitted to yourself it's bigger than two people can handle. I'm not even sure how you can legitimately say it's ready for this patch or the next x-pac if you haven't been playing all along. We had 2 weeks with Rythal's before he had most of the bugs worked out, and you managed to do it in two days? Clearly not, if the bug reports in this thread are any indication. Pride seems to be your biggest downfall right now, and it will wind up being the downfall of your creation as well. That, sir, is the most tragic part, that you would let something that so many pople love lie fallow because you can't work on it and somewhere there's a piece of paper that says no one else can either.

I beg you, if you are unable to give carbonite the attention it needs, hand it down to someone who has the time and drive to do it. After a while, all the bandaids in the world won't stop the bleeding, and the supporters you have now will move on to something else which may or may not be better, but at least it will be reliable.

fatal errors
 

not questlog
not minimap and more:(

Those of us who have been using carbonite for years all know that what your going to do is bandage carbonite and not actually fix anything, Rythal, in a matter of a few weeks has managed to fix bugs that have been present in carbonite since Wotlk. It is pretty clear to me and many others that you are just milking carbonite for every last cent in donations, while you do not actually care. Donators have not even been getting access to the supporters forum...

It would be FAAAR smarter to actually get Rythal on the team and have him develop it for you, since he is actively playing wow and clearly knows what he's doing, and I think actually mentioned that he'd be willing to do that (I could be wrong).

This statement here really tells the whole story:
"It is our addon. We did not ask, nor do we want someone else modding it."

Ever since Blizzard made it so that paid addons are not allowed, carbonite has went into serious neglect, it wasn't right away of course but after some time pretty much all development ceased. While i do not blame you or any of the other developers for that, i do think it is pretty petty of you not to even consider getting an active and willing developer on the team who actually wants to fix carbonite. This would certainly increase the number of donators too.

Curse
 

Can yall update with curse client please thank you:)

I decided to follow the advice posted at Wow Insider, on their Addon Spotlight blog here -
http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/09/06/ad...addon-mailbag/

not going to use Carbonite unless/until the dev gets his head out of his ass and releases a version that actually works. I'll use the alternatives posted by that blog instead.

My 2 cents.

seriously disappointed
 

I created this account just to reply to this.

I found carbonite as soon as I started playing the game, early wrath. It was never perfect, but I LOVED it. Nothing compares to the way the map works that I've found yet.

I considered donating, until I read this thread.

How selfish and arrogant can one person be? So you initially created this as a pay-for addon, well Blizz said NO. Now take your tail out from between your legs from YEARS ago, and give the damn addon to the community.

You don't take care of it. You don't give a ****. I hope EVERYONE that uses this app gets to read this thread, because I assure you, anyone who sees you look down upon the community and those who wished to support and help you, would not give you a single penny.

The game should be about community and coming together to help each other, not selfishness and greed. There is no excuse for being so possessive of something you don't use, don't care for, don't have time for, and cannot sell.

All we need now is someone to re-write the program on their own, and let carbonite die ... it can no longer die with dignity though. It is a shame that pride and dismissiveness had to be the traits the developers had, instead of love and acceptance of a community that loves and enjoys something you made.

R.I.P. Carbonite, you were once the best addon in the game, now you are just in a poorly maintained totalitarian state.

I have no animosity towards the author, I just think he could use a bit of humanity, I hope everything in his life gives him exactly the same respect he gives the community that tried to support them for all these years; that would be sweet justice, and well deserved.


If you have any decency in your heart, you will open up the code, or allow the community members to keep it up to date for you. Just let your greedy side take over, you still get donations, without ANY effort on your part. But you can't concede that this would be the best idea, for the community and yourself ... like I said, pride, arrogance, and selfishness.

I still thank you and appreciate all the work you originally done, and doubly so for all the great use I got from it ... it is just so sad :(

I agree there. Even tho it was extremely nice of Rythal to help us all, he did it by himself. Noone asked him. But i am greatfull he did.

And ofc, it owuld have been nice with a heads up from the carbonite team abou tthe addon :-)

You have obviously had your head somewhere the sun does not shine as Rythal fixed this for us within days of 5.0.4 being released, provided free updates as he fixed more of it and not only did it free but asked any contributions went to the original authors, who I believe release a bug filled patch.

Not trying to tell anyone what to do here with their addon but I know Rythal did a lot to help those people who are still using the addon through the time where an update was unavailable. It may be in your best interest to add him as an author for the addon since he is actively playing the game and it would seem that the other developers are not.

I don't know if he would accept the offer but I myself see it as a boon for both Rythal and the Carbonite addon team to come together.

Some thoughts on all this
 

If you volunteer to do something, you don’t just drop the ball without an earth-shattering emergency on your hands. Otherwise, people will go elsewhere. I’ve volunteered many a time in my 40+ years of life and have done so now with my being my Guild’s GM. I replaced the old GM, who was leaving the game with his wife due to real-life issues and was wise enough to not simply let a then 4 ½ year old Guild simply die.

Even in game, Blizzard gives rights for a Guild to eject their Guild’s GM if they’re not on for 30 days. That’s ONE month, not several. And we GM’s don’t even get to solicit contributions to help us run the Guild; I know I give my time completely free (and I do it gladly; we’re a fun bunch!).

I was facing the possibility of being off WoW for a good chunk of time due to surgery, among other things. I called a Guild Officers meeting, kept everyone informed, and made sure I had people lined up to help me out if it was needed. It could have been very different if I’d had complications. But if that had been the case, I had backup – my excellent officer team for the Guild.

That’s how you run a volunteer project. I have 5 people other than me on my Guild leadership team. Don’t be stubborn about getting some more help for the project! Get some new blood and let them help you help the community. You and Carbonite will both be better for it.

*BOGGLE*

People I know who don't play WoW and have *never* played WoW know about Mists of Pandaria. Seriously, you didn't know?

Wow. Just… Wow.

He said they didnt know it was patched, not that he didnt know about pandaria. I would assume that most of these people hating on the author are kids, I cant honestly believe an adult would be acting this way. I dont find anything rude in what he said, he simply stated it was there work, and didnt want anyone messing with it, and didnt ask anyone to mess with it, therefore a thank you isnt in order. Those that are saying rythals was working better, I beg to differ, I been using it since the first day and updated it with his following fixes and it never did work as good as it did pre 5.0.4 till the author just fixed it. Maybe u guys are messing up your installation by copying the other files to the old folder? I deleted old folders all together and put the new ones in, and everything is working great.

My map and cursor follows correctly now, zones i was having issues where it would be way off are fixed now, Distances to the quest in those zones are fixed now.

I would gladly pay to download this addon; that is, if it worked. When 5.0 patched and Carbonite didn't work, this is the first place I came. Not to curse to fix bartender, recount, or omen, but here to fix Carbonite. I was so disappointed to find that it had been abandoned by the author. Then I read in the forums about Rythal and his updated version. I downloaded it and tested it. After a day of using it, I was sold. Know what I did? I sent Rythal $10. Know what Rythal did? He emailed me and said thank you. That is how customer service is supposed to work.

I have used Carbonite for years. I don't remember exactly how long I've been using it, but I would have to guess since about 2008, maybe 2007. Like all others have said, it was buggy every time I downloaded a new version, but I still enjoyed using it. If Rythal doesn't make another update when the next patch comes out, I will be very sad. And like I said before, I would love to pay for this addon to be maintained. If it comes down to it, make a deal with the community to pay 1% of all donations to the original authors for creating the addon, and the 99% of the donations to the maintainer who fixes it.

I am 29 years old, have served in the military for 8 years, got out went to school and now hold a full time job supporting my family. Definitely not a child.

If u are not complaining like a small little kid then it probably doesnt pertain to u. If u are then it is what it is.
Basically what most of these people are saying is, since it is digital property the developers have no claim to it, or they should just disregard all the work they put into it, and give it away. The Site says they have over 5000 hours into the project. That would be the same thing as someone giving me a old car, and all the stuff to restore it to new, or better than new for free, not costing me a single dime. I restore the car myself only costing me my own time, I leave the car sitting in a field and do nothing with it, so that car should be up for grabs for whoever wants it, because I wasnt doing anything with it. or better yet feel they are free to take parts off the car, because after all its just sitting there i havent touched it.

That sounds like something my little brother would do, or think he should be entitled to, since i wasnt doing anything with it, and thats only because he is a immature, selfish, spoiled little kid.

My view is the disconnect here is between the authors intentions with the original add-on and Blizzards intentions for addons. Clearly the authors do not see this as a community project. That is their right. Its also a missed opportunity for the authors to show their generous side but it certainly is their inarguable right.

But since this is a community website lets talk about community solutions.

TBH most of the functionality of carbonite can be obtained through other addons, especially with the work Blizzard has done in game.

For me I make do with the following.

Mapster - Scalable World Map
Pocketplot - Minimap makeover
Minimap Button Frame - Manage those pesky buttons
Gathermate 2 - Up-to date gather node locations
Routes - Node pathing - (A bit flaky in 5.04 - not sure on maintenance activity, but imo its actually better than carbonite when it does work)
MiniHuge HUD - The key to efficient gathering, puts routes and the minimap nodes front and centre.
Who Framed Watcher Wabbit - The best quest tracker mod imo. Relies on Blizzard quest automation, but thats probably a good thing as I have yet to see an alternative that either works reliably or is updated through patches.
TomTomLite - I actually find this a better alternative to the full tom-tom - This one 'just works'.
Altoholic - keeping track of alts.
Breadcrumbs - The past defines the future.

I don't pvp so I suspect there might be some gaps in alternatives for that side functionality.

Out of all the above routes is the only one that is worrying me atm, its a key part of the package.

I would love it if someone came up with an efficient mod that handled the zooming maps side of things, preferably complete with blobs! Big ask I know but whoever does it will immediately be in the 10's of thousands of downloads territory.

Hm. Just downloaded most of these. Haven't tested yet, but...

Mapster - Should do
Pocketplot - probably conflicts with nUI
Minimap Button Frame - Almost certainly conflicts with nUI, which has this functionality built in
Gathermate 2 - Should do (I've used it before)
Routes - I hope this works for me. If not, I'll hope for an update.
MiniHuge HUD - Interesting. Don't think it'll work with nUI, but we'll see.
Who Framed Watcher Wabbit - I haven't tested any, but I was intrigued by screenshots of Sorhaquestlog on Ace the other day, so I'll try 'em both.
TomTomLite - Unfortunately, there's some stuff in TomTom that isn't in here (at least not yet) that I want
Altoholic - Already using this.

In case it's not clear :D, if it doesn't work with nUI, it's out.:eek::banana:

Ok if we go with your scenario, then at least be accurate. The little brother donated his money for you to fix that car with the agreement we could drive it. But now you left that car sitting in the field until it rusted over, and you're complaining that you don't have time to fix it anymore, and you don't make anything off of fixing it. So we find a mechanic to fix the car and you freak out because it's your car. Well, yes, it's your car but we just found someone to fix it for you for free. That means you don't have to slave over it, and you and your little brother get to drive it.

And since you're questioning the ages of people posting here, I'm 29 and a graphic designer. I understand copyright infringement and intellectual property theft all too well. I also understand that when opportunities arise that could help you and many people who depend on you, you don't spit in the face of the person or people offering you the help.

Faatal, I wanted to thank you for attempting to do an update for the addon. I live by carbonite and when it did go down I very much considered whether I would continue the game. I absolutely hate the in game one. I was greatly appreciative of Rythal's update to keep it running. I can understand, especially since you have left the game, that you did not get an update up quickly. I do hope you fix the problems with your update, and get it back up and running. Thank you again.

awesome
 

thank u so much for the update i am so happy to have Carbonite back Faatal u r awesome:banana:

awesome
 

yay finally carbonite is back and i am oh so happy thank you thank you for bringing it back, please keep it up to date as mop is about to come out i really dont want play without carbonite it just makes things more enjoyable. the two mini maps makes life so much easier i love it. please keep up the great work.:banana:

A couple of problems with your analogy. 1) The big brother (Carbonite) never accepted the little brothers (the users) donations (I use the word donation - not subscription) under the stipulation that they would drive the car. The big brother bought the car, fixed it, enhanced it and now let it sit in a field. Little brother comes along, contracts out (or does it himself) to have the car fixed a certain way. Big brother has two options - be thankful that little brother did a lot of work and big brother can use it. *or* be upset because big brother didn't want anyone else touching or restoring that car, it was *HIS* project and passion. Now, in both the automobile and the software examples, many people would absolutely hate for others to work on "their baby" - their project. I know of a few people who have run down vehicles that they have as a project to fix up "some day", they aren't fixing it up today, but if someone went in and fixed it up for them, they would be pissed off.

Now in terms of Carbonite, I don't believe they were furious at the fan update. But they want the users (community) to understand it is still their baby and they have not asked for another person to take it up and update it. I haven't seen where they have berated Rythal specifically for continuing the addon.

I get that their license says they don't guarantee we can use it etc etc. However, what keeps people donating to their project is the fact that it's something we use on a regular basis and wish to show our support for the continued support and development of it.

That said, it seems like a pretty clear if unwritten understanding, we get to drive the car. And no, they didn't exactly berate Rythal, but I maintain my point that neither did they thank him or take advantage of an opportunity to lighten the load from their clearly full plates, by bringing him in on it. I'm a graphic designer and the one thing I live by is "don't marry it." Yes, I may have taken on a project. Yes, I may have worked on it for a long time to get it to where it is. But in the end, it's about making the client happy. That means taking feed back, sometimes taking on extra help from a colleague, and above all else showing appreciation to the client and to the person that helped me finish out the project.

If they had talked to Rythal, they could have released their official release minus the bugs that people are reporting again and focused instead on what Rythal was still working on. Pride and closed mindedness in conjunction with short snarky answers are just turning people away to find addons to replace Carbonite. I think in very short order donations and download will slow to a crawl, and then they WILL just stop developing it. There were a ton of people just waiting to donate if the creators made an official announcement that they were going to continue updating. Now those same people are renouncing carbonite and listing addons to replace it. For want of politeness the kingdom was lost...

Doesn't work
 

Now what's that?? Its not working for me... replaced all folders and it just stops working while logging in.. Error error... off...

Why didnt you continue Rythals work??? RYTHAL!!!! :confused:

To you and all the scrawlers - this addon has been updated, without errors by someone over the last few weks. The only reason the original authors shifted off their butts was to hope you would send money - their only concern. I have managed to find addons to replace theirs, using less memory so I will not be back, but I look forward to the one the guy who managed to make this work far faster than the original guys creates. Don't forget - when this was created you had to pay for it, until Blizzard stopped the leeches. That is why they take so long to maintain it every patch - they do not get the one thing they care for - money ^^ :D

As always you guys have done an awesome job updating the addon.
Thanks
Rooboy
Purgatory - Tich

I have enjoyed this add-on for a while. I have thought about donating with each patch, but every time there is a delay for an update, and lil response/replies from the authors about those waits or bugs. I have no issue with someone claiming intellectual property and donating for such, but you have to also honor those whom you want money from.

If the task has become either more than you can handle or you are so far removed from the game as to be unable to timely and effectively maintain the add-on, then you either need to open it to the community, which has paid you, or add someone to your staff who still has a vested intrest in the game and will keep your team appraised of upcoming changes.

This is a loved add-on by many and improving the response time to patches and to the community will only further serve to increase donations from those like me who are willing but reluctant.

Did you even read the thread where Rythal told everyone to STILL send YOU the donations? His "FAN UPDATE" shows he was a dedicated player with good coding knowledge. Did you try even looking at what he did before you came up with your own update? Good coders never reinvent the wheel when writing code. He still gave you all credit and wanted you all to continue making money off of Carbonite so he has been instrumental in keeping Carbonite going. He does deserve your thanks.

Most of your comments regarding author simply shows how most of you simply feel entitled and can't see past that. All you're doing by berating author and cheering Rythal is creating a huge rift. Now you're putting the author in the awkward position where he's updating an addon for a user base who is throwing him under the bus. I wish most of you would've shut up and waited patiently for an update. Put things into perspective...... you all were complaining about not being able to use an addon when MoP isn't even out yet. Rythal is right. You guys have to have your carbonite like "crack", and when you don't, you react like addicts and become rude and forceful like you've shown towards the author.