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08-20-09, 12:04 AM   #1624
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Don ,

I like how you timed this exactly when 2 possibly 3 of the Wowinterface admin staff are on the way to BlizzCon and hence can not respond as swiftly as I. I'm sorry but I really don't want to stoop to personal attacks you it seems you choose to post this at exactly the right time . Two days before Blizzcon. Something to admire I'm sure.

The thing is Don , every point you've made in this post of yours has been refuted in the large 72 page thread.

I don't if you read it in it's entirety but here we go :

Originally Posted by DonCorneo View Post
Though WoWI may have tried to work something out with WoWM, Curse did not. Curse made demands and threats (this is giving all sides the benefit of doubt, or a grain of truth, as you feel fit to see it).
No they didn't. They did offer to buy Wowmatrix out. Wowmatrix named a price that was way too expensive. The WM crew did make an offer to cover bandwidth costs that would barely of covered a fraction of their costs. Net , the guy who helps run the Curse servers said that on 3.0 patch day they went through $80,000 worth of bandwidth. He said normally it's around $25,000 - $35,000

http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=16292&page=3
http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/s...&postcount=416

Originally Posted by DonCorneo View Post
WoWI was shoved between a rock and a hard place.
Nope wrong again Don . It was do this at the same time as the other sites or die.

http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/s...&postcount=298

http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/s...&postcount=448

IE If they hadn't done it at the same time then they would had all the traffic that WOWM normally incurrs on Curse as well as their own.

Originally Posted by DonCorneo View Post
If you believe a couple of posts, WoWM may have been able to circuvent the current block. If that is true, then by not doing it shows they are trying to be a respectful site/updater.
Everyone gave Curse a chance to clean its act up and it done so nicely. Give WoWM a chance now. And hopefully someone at WoWM reads this and contacts WoWI to see if an agreement can be worked out.
I think if WoWM and WoWI could get together, especially on the developement of Minion, WoWI would be the hands-down best addon site, which it should be just because it has some of the best people working for it.
They haven't.

They had a wonderful chance of coming to the addon authors and saying "Well guys. We f*** up. What can we do to make it up to you"

They didn't. Not a single addon author I know of has had any emails from the wowmatrix crew. Instead what do they do? They go behind the addon authors backs and start hosting older versions of their addons which are still covered by licenses that allow them free right of distribution.

That's not "cleaning up their act" by any stretch of the imagination.

And about giving them a chance ? THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO. For over a year now. They have been sent email after email after email. DCMA notices have been sent to their provider. Their provider has even been phoned at one point.

And as far as the Curse protecting authors, how is setting up a program where some authors may have to pay taxes because of Curse helping the authors? Blizz does not allow authors to charge for their work, yet Curse is going to report them to the "tax man" for making popular addons?
Do you pay taxes on gift vouchers ?

That's what Curse is giving out isn't it ?

Regardless let's look at that policy again shall we ?

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...02301679&sid=1

1) Add-ons must be free of charge.
All add-ons must be distributed free of charge. Developers may not create "premium" versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.
So. Mr Don Corneo.

Are you personally being charged in any way to download addons from Curse ?

See i'm not. I've used Curse to download addons every day for the last week or so (Patch Day updates lol). I don't pay a single cent to download them. In fact I don't pay anything at all to access their site.

And I'm willing to bet a lot of other people aren't being charged a cent to get access to their addons.

Finally my last point :

Curse Gaming are part of the Official Blizzard Fansite Program (capitals for emphasis) . As part of being on this program they do have certain obligations. So they would be in constant communication with Blizzard over various things. They would havelet Blizzard know they were doing this way before it even come to fruition. The fact that Blizzard aren't complaining about Curse Premium means either they're incompetent with enforcing their own Official Fansites or ....they approve of it.

But I would like to take this last paragraph to thank you for the opportunity to clear some misconceptions up in this post
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