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08-11-05, 06:04 PM   #1
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EQInterface/Ogaming Merger

As posted on the front page we have merged with Ogaming. Let me tell you a bit more about what this means for the site. Here are some Frequently Asked Question. Maybe this will help pre-answer som questions

Q. How does an affiliate join The OGaming Network?
A. Affiliates are assets of The OGaming Network. Under the terms of this agreement, EQinterface becomes a wholly owned subsidiary of The OGaming Network, and the MMOG user interface modification sites it operates become affiliates of The OGaming Network. The EQinteface sites – EQinterface.com, EQ2interface.com. and WoWinterface.com – will continue under existing management to autonomously provide the same rich content, independent opinions and fan forums that community members currently enjoy.

Q. Will the content or services provided by EQinterface change?
A. No. The OGaming Network exercises limited control over the content and services offered by affiliate members. OGaming believes that the real value of both free and subscription-based fan sites – such as EQinterface.com, EQ2interface.com and WoWinterface.com – stems from their organic growth and their unique and compelling role in the game play experience of MMOG ethusiasts.

Q. How does The OGaming Network affiliate status of EQinterface.com, EQ2interface.com and WoWinterface.com benefit users of those sites?
A. The users of EQinterface.com, EQ2interface.com and WoWinterface.com will benefit from those sites joining The OGaming Network, as they will now have direct access to a unique set of proprietary database tools, free guild hosting and other OGaming features offered on the network.

Q. Does The OGaming Network now control EQinterface.com, EQ2interface.com and WoWinterface.com?
A. While in principle The OGaming Network does maintain ultimate responsibility for the content and management of its affiliates, full autonomy is strongly encouraged and excercised. The OGaming Network rarely gets involved in day-to-day affiliate operations, and EQinterface will continue to operate its user sites with existing staff and a minimum of OGaming influence.

Q. What does this mean for long-time, loyal users of EQinterface.com, EQ2interface.com and WoWinterface.com?
The OGaming Network was created by gamers and for gamers, and that remains the mission of the network and each of its affiliates. EQinterface.com, EQ2interface.com and WoWinterface.com will retain their current character, management and lively perspectives, ensuring that they remain the pre-eminent user interface modification sites on the web.

Hope that helps answer some questions. In short, we are still here, we are not going anywhere and we only see the site(s) growing with our new found support.
 
08-11-05, 07:24 PM   #2
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Sounds great! thanks for keeping us informed
 
08-11-05, 07:50 PM   #3
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Congrats.

If it makes the [insertgame]interface.com sites better, it's great and I'm really happy.

Sadly I've seen many of the "gaming network" sites takeover independant sites like the varies [insertgame]Interface.com sites and wreck them. Turning popular content into pay only, etc....
Of course it would be hard to do that here since the content is made by users and submitted.

So I watch with a critical eye but I'm also hopeful. I'm sure this will take a lot of stress off the staff for some stuff (not sure exactly what OGaming.com will be providing). So I hope it makes your lives a little easier and maybe you can even get paid or get a T-shirt or something.

I did have one question. Is OGaming.com going to require you to change the website for whatever reason or just add their logo somewhere?

Anyhow, grats again and I hope the [insertgame]Interface.com sites keep going strong!

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08-11-05, 08:11 PM   #4
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Doesn't OGaming.com do that bloody "ad splash screen"? As long as these sites don't follow suit, I'm cool with it. I hate ads and hate them even more when they block me from trying to get to the site I want to get to....
 
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Nope ogaming doesnt do the full screen ads and they dont plan to. Thats IGN and Gamespot your thinking of.

I hate those full screen ads too.
 
08-11-05, 08:14 PM   #6
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Sweet! I knew a few gaming sites did, but wasn't sure on the exact ones. Thanks.
 
08-11-05, 08:20 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Syxx
Sadly I've seen many of the "gaming network" sites takeover independant sites like the varies [insertgame]Interface.com sites and wreck them. Turning popular content into pay only, etc....
We all love these sites and just know that if it was gonna do something like that, we'd have rather closed the doors You'll barely notice any changes... well cept some upgrades that Dolby has in the works because he rocks like that

Originally Posted by Syxx
or get a T-shirt or something.
*insert random "lousy t-shirt" joke here*

Originally Posted by Syxx
I did have one question. Is OGaming.com going to require you to change the website for whatever reason or just add their logo somewhere?
Like I said.. things should be pretty unchanged... we'll have our affiliation with them posted of course (Dolby is workin' on integrating their logo, so we know it'll look good), but beyond that it'll be the same ole site ya know and love!

 
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Originally Posted by Remelio
We all love these sites and just know that if it was gonna do something like that, we'd have rather closed the doors You'll barely notice any changes... well cept some upgrades that Dolby has in the works because he rocks like that

*insert random "lousy t-shirt" joke here*

Like I said.. things should be pretty unchanged... we'll have our affiliation with them posted of course (Dolby is workin' on integrating their logo, so we know it'll look good), but beyond that it'll be the same ole site ya know and love!

Excellent, thank you for the update.

Strangely, I do have faith in you guys but I felt the need to Devil's Advocate a little. I know it probably came off a little pessemistic, but the rate at which really good sites go bye-bye, I hope you can understand my skepticism.
I'm just happy it wasn't IGN. *shivers*

Again, congratulations. As I said before, hope it makes all your lives just a tad easier.

I look forward (and I always do) to Dolby's latest doo-dads.

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08-11-05, 09:24 PM   #9
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Umm, isn't Ogaming owned and operated by IGE? Or at least IGE's parent company, or something similiar. The link between IGE was established when people started questioning Thottbot and Cosmos, and how it was connected to Ogaming, which, in turn, turned out to be owned by IGE.

Now, I know IGE is a big advertiser and sponsor of yours, so I don't really expect a truthful answer about this b/c I know you won't badmouth the people that pay your bills. But how do you feel about what they do?? IE. contribute to cheating, and ruining the economy of servers and other such things?

edit: that sounded a bit harsh, and I don't mean to take shots at anyone's characters as I personally know that everyone involved with EQInterface and it's sister sites truly love the games they play, and the communities they serve.

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Originally Posted by teddyboy420
Umm, isn't Ogaming owned and operated by IGE? Or at least IGE's parent company, or something similiar. The link between IGE was established when people started questioning Thottbot and Cosmos, and how it was connected to Ogaming, which, in turn, turned out to be owned by IGE.
Well I'd hoped they would cover this in their statement but they didn't so here is how it was explained to me, because trust me, I made the exact same complaint

Basically Ogaming was founded with IGE money, but since then they have become their own company and don't have anything to do with IGE. All their funding and stuff comes from their own profits.

Again, this is how it was told to me, so bear that in mind if I don't have all my facts exactly right . I trust the person that told me this info so unless they were misinformed too, then this is whats up. Personally, I'm okay with it as long as nothing that I'm doing is going back to IGE or supporting them in any way, which its not.
 
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Originally Posted by Remelio
Well I'd hoped they would cover this in their statement but they didn't so here is how it was explained to me, because trust me, I made the exact same complaint

Basically Ogaming was founded with IGE money, but since then they have become their own company and don't have anything to do with IGE. All their funding and stuff comes from their own profits.

Again, this is how it was told to me, so bear that in mind if I don't have all my facts exactly right . I trust the person that told me this info so unless they were misinformed too, then this is whats up. Personally, I'm okay with it as long as nothing that I'm doing is going back to IGE or supporting them in any way, which its not.
OGaming is a Delaware Licensed LLC, It was orginally founded through IGE, but has since emerged into it's own company. You will notice there will not be IGE ads or links on this site. as we are owned by OGaming.

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08-12-05, 12:33 PM   #12
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Talking Congratulations

Ok, as i said I apologize if my post sounded harsh. It was late when I saw this and I got kind of nervous because the ***Interface sites have always been such a great place for thier respective communities and I don't want to see this change. When I first read the announcment red flags went up in my mind and I saw plat and gold selling threads, advertisments and links going all over the site :P

I am very glad to hear that Ogaming has broken off from IGE, and that is was them who you will become a part of and not IGE's "network".

So, now that that is cleared up, congratulations. Dolby, Kudane, Cairenn and Remy, you guys have been leaders in the UI community for so long, and have put so much hard work and dedication into your sites, you deserve much of recognition and praise. I am glad for you all and consider your merger with such a large network as OGaming to be a fitting tribute to your work and dedication. I look forward to seeing how this merger plays out, but I am sure that will bring only more improvment to your already great sites.
 
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It's perfectly understandable to be nervous. Heck, we've been nervous about how this is all going to work out. But, we have been assured repeatedly by OGaming that they have no intention of changing how anything works on our sites. They wouldn't have wanted the sites if they weren't impressed with what they saw. The sites are the way they are because of who we are and the communities we build. Take us away, change how things run, and the sites aren't the same. They might continue to prosper, but then again, they may not. The names EQInterface.com, EQ2Interface.com and WoWInterface.com have the respect of the MMORPG UI modding community. But so do the names Dolby, Kudane, Cairenn and all the wonderful help we've had over the years at the different sites - Remmy, Bela, Inokis, Guice, Bikther, Lueamdar, taco-man, Deathbane27.

What this really boils down to, so far as we (and hence you, our community) are concerned is that we can now concentrate on the running of the sites themselves, instead of worrying every 6 months that we are going to have to close our doors because we weren't able to get an advertising contract. OGaming owns the sites. We still retain control over running them.
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08-12-05, 02:42 PM   #14
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Ahhh, my name was mentioned. I feel so special.
 
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Tell them how much they paid you...

...for other people's work?

For those that don't know, OGaming is owned by IGE. IGE has been buying up fansites for a while now and are spending HUGE sums of money for sites. I can imagine they paid Cairenn 6+ figures for the XXXinterface.com sites. They've paid other fansites 6 figures for far less.

So, how much of that are you going to divvy out to the mod/ui authors, Cairenn? How much you going to share with the people who volunteered to help you with the site?

That's what I thought. Good riddance.
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Actually, you are incorrect. OGaming isn't owned by IGE, as stated previously in this thread:
Originally Posted by Kudane
OGaming is a Delaware Licensed LLC, It was orginally founded through IGE, but has since emerged into it's own company. You will notice there will not be IGE ads or links on this site. as we are owned by OGaming.

/bow
And, in case you missed it previously, I'm an admin at all the sites. I'm not an owner, never was. I can tell you, I certainly didn't get any 6+ figures out of this.
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08-12-05, 07:55 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Marthisdil
...for other people's work?

For those that don't know, OGaming is owned by IGE. IGE has been buying up fansites for a while now and are spending HUGE sums of money for sites. I can imagine they paid Cairenn 6+ figures for the XXXinterface.com sites. They've paid other fansites 6 figures for far less.

So, how much of that are you going to divvy out to the mod/ui authors, Cairenn? How much you going to share with the people who volunteered to help you with the site?

That's what I thought. Good riddance.
Cairenn does not now, nor did she ever recieve a 6+ figure salery. Hell Dolby, Cairenn and I all put together would not clear 6 figures in several years.

Dolby and I were the partnership that owned the site. Cairenn has been a VOLUNTEER on the sites for over 3 years.

But that being said. let me straighten a few facts out..

IGE Was the chief investor of OGaming.com which is now its OWN LLC. Nothing on this site will ever "support" IGE or its buisness practices. ogaming is a stand along company who's cheif investor was IGE, starting OGaming (along with some of the site IGE had bought previously). But I promise you our sales contract says "OGaming.com Network, a Delware LLC". It does not list IGE.

With that cleared up, please understand this site is FREE to download without limits, and FREE to upload without limits. It is a place that authors can post their work FREE and get feedback and improve thier work.

All of that may sound like a "phat paycheck" but the reality is a very "phat bill" that we now do not have to worry about paying and we can concentrate on improving the site.

So please try to remember that we are here for the community, and if selling the ownership of the name to OGaming helps us be here for the community, then it is worth it!

/bow

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Our decision was based upon survival and the need to keep doing what we love most. If you knew us from any of our other interface sites you would know we (including staff) love helping people and working on the websites. If you don’t know us I’m sure you’ll have trouble believing what I say and I doubt there’s anything I can say to change that.
 
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It's not you guys I doubt, its the sincerity of O-gaming that I doubt. What happens after 6 months when they decide, "hey these are our sites so thx for building them but now you all have to go."
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Originally Posted by Inokis
It's not you guys I doubt, its the sincerity of O-gaming that I doubt. What happens after 6 months when they decide, "hey these are our sites so thx for building them but now you all have to go."
While I can not give details, this was one of our concerns and was VERY well addressed and covered before we would agree.

So trust me when I say "we are not going anywhere"... =)
 

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