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07-19-15, 11:35 PM   #1
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Carbonite Notes relying upon Astrolabe

Today is: July 19, 2015

I've mentioned the consequences of relying upon 3rd-party authors who fail to update their addons which Carbonite relies upon. I was ignored then. See the following attached image and look at the author's revision date. The listed History of updates on their web site shows that it is rarely updated in a timely manner. It is not encouraging for anyone who wants Carbonite Notes to function properly.

This was copied from the Astrolabe web site.
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07-20-15, 11:51 AM   #2
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While it is true that Astrolabe has fallen to the wayside, the same thing happened to Carbonite at one point in time. And just like Carbonite, others are stepping up to update/patch Astrolabe via forks. While not perfect (I'll grant you that) it is a work in progress. Lets face it, there will be very few of us that stick around till the end when they shut down the servers and send us packing with a virtual wave. Those of us that do stick around to the end though will always push on and patch/rewrite/takeover where others left off.

case in point http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/astrolabe/?comment=34
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07-21-15, 08:26 AM   #3
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mjumnito -- Thank you for replying. Your reply was stated very clearly and included several facts which sound encouraging, although approx. dates could have been included. As it is, it is still unclear when Astrolabe will be updated to be functional for use pertaining to Carbonite Notes usage, other addons, and WoW itself before they all go "Poof!". I understand that Astrolabe is in the "GNU Lesser General Public License version 2.1 (LGPLv2.1)" licensing protocol. I suppose I didn't realize fully just how many people have lost interest in WoW; hence fewer available authors to provide support for addons which so many people used to find desirable. Astrolabe (even with support from qualified authors such as yourself) is falling by the wayside, as you stated. Not even 1 single update for nearly a year, even though Carbonite continues to be updated (although rather infrequently). Yet, it continues to move forward. I am hoping you and other addon authors will find the time to make some significant improvements to Astrolabe. No hurry! I've given up on using "Notes" until it works, but I am looking forward to using it again.

I've been playing WoW since the very first week it hit the shelves for sale. The date on my current wow interface icon does not reflect the reality of when I first joined because I was forced into using a new e-mail address after my previous ISP went "Poof!" and I had to get a new ISP and e-mail address. Neither wow interface nor Blizzard kept track of those records. heh heh. I will probably continue playing WoW until either 'it' vanishes or 'I' vanish with quiet "Poof!" as well!! (big grin). Thanks again for your informative reply.

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07-22-15, 05:46 AM   #4
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Unofficial Astrolab fork https://github.com/jnwhiteh/astrolabe/ last update 15 march 2015.

@Kreelor just learn lua and make your Astrolab fork with fixes and contribute to Carbonite development. U may also write your own library which will do the same or even better as Astrolabe... eventually u can propose an alternative library to Astrolabe, but i dont see other...
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07-22-15, 09:14 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by ircdirk View Post
Unofficial Astrolab fork https://github.com/jnwhiteh/astrolabe/ last update 15 march 2015.

@Kreelor just learn lua and make your Astrolab fork with fixes and contribute to Carbonite development. U may also write your own library which will do the same or even better as Astrolabe... eventually u can propose an alternative library to Astrolabe, but i dont see other...
What? Start from scratch with no prior coding knowledge and learn lua? Sounds redundant to me, since there are already people qualified and capable. If they can't fix the reported issues, then I doubt if I could without extensive experience. If they don't have the time nor the inclination to fix it... then, it must not be important enough.

And, it looks to me that the only changes (NOT improvements) to the code 4 months ago were merely modifying a "revision number" and calling it an "update". I'm not familiar enough with coding to know if anything more relevant than that has been done, but that's how I read it. That's like saying Carbonite is up to date because somebody changes a version number in the TOC without fixing any outstanding issues, etc. Btw, this topic was about Astrolabe and not Carbonite explicitly, except for the fact that Carbonite is depending upon it. I'm not going to be lured into a debate over this. I've already stated that I can wait or do without Carbonite Notes. Enough said.
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07-23-15, 12:07 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Kreelor View Post
What? Start from scratch with no prior coding knowledge and learn lua? Sounds redundant to me, since there are already people qualified and capable. If they can't fix the reported issues, then I doubt if I could without extensive experience. If they don't have the time nor the inclination to fix it... then, it must not be important enough.

And, it looks to me that the only changes (NOT improvements) to the code 4 months ago were merely modifying a "revision number" and calling it an "update". I'm not familiar enough with coding to know if anything more relevant than that has been done, but that's how I read it. That's like saying Carbonite is up to date because somebody changes a version number in the TOC without fixing any outstanding issues, etc. Btw, this topic was about Astrolabe and not Carbonite explicitly, except for the fact that Carbonite is depending upon it. I'm not going to be lured into a debate over this. I've already stated that I can wait or do without Carbonite Notes. Enough said.
https://github.com/jnwhiteh/astrolabe/commits/master more than TOC changes...

And if u dont have coding knowledge and experience, dont be so "smart" and dont write us what to do and what not to do, and what to use and what not to use... Do u even know how long it takes to write this kind of library?
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