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05-12-09, 09:37 PM   #1
nerdonfire
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moving boxes

Hi. I'm using nUI+ Development version 5.03.02. I'm having a problem with one of the movable frames accessible by doing a /nui movers. Its the box that represents the In-Game Tooltips. And I have been having this problem since the 3.1 update.

The location of the box resets every single time I log in. It always moves to the bottom, left-hand corner of the screen, right above nUI, covering the list of my buffs.

When I do a /nui movers to move it, the pinkish looking box to drag around the screen is exactly where I want it positioned. And when I close /nui movers , the In-Game Tooltip is where I want it.

But it resets for every single toon, each time I log in.

Help!

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05-12-09, 09:51 PM   #2
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Only thing I can think of is you are running Windows Vista, and WoW is installed into the program files directory. If that's the case, I believe the fix I read was to right click the WoW Icon and choose the option in Properties to run as Administrator.

Hope that helps


*EDIT: Side note, each toon's settings are seperate. If you log into your main toon, set the minimap to be square, then log into an Alt that is default, the minimap will be round until you change that toon also
 
05-12-09, 09:59 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Vis View Post
Only thing I can think of is you are running Windows Vista, and WoW is installed into the program files directory. If that's the case, I believe the fix I read was to right click the WoW Icon and choose the option in Properties to run as Administrator.
Unfortunately I do not have it installed in the default location. I never install anything (other than windows) into their default locations.

I think my problem lies not within nUI but rather another addon. However, seeing how I have a grocery list of addons, I'm just starting at point 0. Here's my list.. fear my list...

Code:
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AtlasLoot
AtlasLootFu
Auc-Advanced
BeanCounter
BonusScanner
Broker_BonusScanner
Cartographer
Cartographer_Battlegrounds
Cartographer_Coordinates
Cartographer_Foglight
Cartographer_GroupColors
Cartographer_GuildPositions
Cartographer_InstanceLoot
Cartographer_InstanceMaps
Cartographer_InstanceNotes
Cartographer_LookNFeel
Cartographer_Notes
Cartographer_POI
Cartographer_Professions
Cartographer_Waypoints
Cartographer_ZoneInfo
CT_MailMod
DBM-Battlegrounds
DBM-BlackTemple
DBM-BurningCrusade
DBM-ChamberOfAspects
DBM-Core
DBM-EyeOfEternity
DBM-GUI
DBM-Hyjal
DBM-Karazhan
DBM-Naxx
DBM-Outlands
DBM-Party-WotLK
DBM-Serpentshrine
DBM-Sunwell
DBM-TheEye
DBM-Ulduar
DBM-ZulAman
Enchantrix
Enchantrix-Barker
Gatherer
Gatherer_HUD
GathererDB_Wowhead
GFW_FeedOMatic
Grid
GroupCalendar
HealBot
InFlight
InFlight_Load
Informant
nUI
Omen
PhanxChat
QuestGuru
QuestGuru_History
QuestGuru_History1
QuestGuru_History2
QuestGuru_History3
QuestGuru_History4
QuestGuru_History5
QuestGuru_History6
QuestGuru_History7
QuestGuru_History8
QuestGuru_History9
QuestGuru_Tracker
Recount
RuneWatch
SellJunk
SharedMedia
SlideBar
Stubby
Talented
Titan
TitanAmmo
TitanBag
TitanClock
TitanCoords
TitanGoldTracker
TitanGuild
TitanItemBonuses
TitanLootType
TitanPerformance
TitanRegen
TitanRepair
TitanVolume
TitanXP
WIM
Come to think of it... could it be WIM? I know that I get an error everytime I close out of a WIM box. And according to the tech people for WIM, it has something to do with nUI.

Just throwing out some thoughts.
 
05-12-09, 10:09 PM   #4
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That's the only one on the list that I have seen specific issues listed for. I dont use it myself, so I'm not sure. Try disabling WIM on your addon screen in game and see what happens. They may be conflicting somehow.


*EDIT: Out of curiousity, why do you need GFW Feed O Matic, it's built into nUI. The pet happiness icon on the pet frame doubles as a feed pet button when you click on it
 
05-12-09, 11:05 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by nerdonfire View Post
Come to think of it... could it be WIM? I know that I get an error everytime I close out of a WIM box. And according to the tech people for WIM, it has something to do with nUI.

Just throwing out some thoughts.
Here is a simple troubleshooting technique that works for all software. If you have a problem and are not sure what may be causing it. Try turning off some of the addons and restarting. If the problem goes away, one of those is the culprit. Or perhaps two in conflict.

One way to use this if you don't have any idea where to start is to disable half of your addons. If the problem is still there, enable them all and disable the other half. The problem should go away at some point. Once you have the problem cleared, start re-enabling half of the half, and keep going through the process until you isolate which is causing the problem.

This is called a binary search algorithm, and the beauty of it is that even with a large number of addons (say 32) you will find the addon within a very few number of attempts.

It will be faster than asking people to figure it out cold on a forum, and you will be happy to have solved your own problem.

Then tell us which one caused the problem
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05-12-09, 11:20 PM   #6
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There's a few there that might possibly be altering the tooltip as well. Like all addons it is possible they will conflict with another one if they carry out similar tasks.

As to WIM, that isn't the cause of the problem in your case. The error you get with WIM is to do with the new animation ability in 3.1 that glitches out due the WIM button being hidden in the button bag. Turning off WIMs animations solves that problem. I use WIM and do not have your problem. However, to help you test things out the ones you have that I do not aren't that many so maybe if I list those as ones to check. On second thought .. you have tons I don't have .. the binary sort algorithim might be your best bet.



Originally Posted by nerdonfire View Post
Unfortunately I do not have it installed in the default location. I never install anything (other than windows) into their default locations.

I think my problem lies not within nUI but rather another addon. However, seeing how I have a grocery list of addons, I'm just starting at point 0. Here's my list.. fear my list...

Code:
!Swatter
AtlasLoot
AtlasLootFu
Auc-Advanced
BeanCounter
BonusScanner
Broker_BonusScanner
Cartographer
Cartographer_Battlegrounds
Cartographer_Coordinates
Cartographer_Foglight
Cartographer_GroupColors
Cartographer_GuildPositions
Cartographer_InstanceLoot
Cartographer_InstanceMaps
Cartographer_InstanceNotes
Cartographer_LookNFeel
Cartographer_Notes
Cartographer_POI
Cartographer_Professions
Cartographer_Waypoints
Cartographer_ZoneInfo
CT_MailMod
DBM-Battlegrounds
DBM-BlackTemple
DBM-BurningCrusade
DBM-ChamberOfAspects
DBM-Core
DBM-EyeOfEternity
DBM-GUI
DBM-Hyjal
DBM-Karazhan
DBM-Naxx
DBM-Outlands
DBM-Party-WotLK
DBM-Serpentshrine
DBM-Sunwell
DBM-TheEye
DBM-Ulduar
DBM-ZulAman
Enchantrix
Enchantrix-Barker
Gatherer
Gatherer_HUD
GathererDB_Wowhead
GFW_FeedOMatic
Grid
GroupCalendar
HealBot
InFlight
InFlight_Load
Informant
nUI
Omen
PhanxChat
QuestGuru
QuestGuru_History
QuestGuru_History1
QuestGuru_History2
QuestGuru_History3
QuestGuru_History4
QuestGuru_History5
QuestGuru_History6
QuestGuru_History7
QuestGuru_History8
QuestGuru_History9
QuestGuru_Tracker
Recount
RuneWatch
SellJunk
SharedMedia
SlideBar
Stubby
Talented
Titan
TitanAmmo
TitanBag
TitanClock
TitanCoords
TitanGoldTracker
TitanGuild
TitanItemBonuses
TitanLootType
TitanPerformance
TitanRegen
TitanRepair
TitanVolume
TitanXP
WIM
Come to think of it... could it be WIM? I know that I get an error everytime I close out of a WIM box. And according to the tech people for WIM, it has something to do with nUI.

Just throwing out some thoughts.
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05-13-09, 04:06 AM   #7
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I see several possible conflicts there but none that I would immediately attribute to the tooltip thing.
  • Why are you running both WIM and PhanxChat?
  • I also see feed-o-matic which is a feature built into nUI already
  • I would also be concerned that Talented is conflicting with nUI's talent browser
That said, I don't see anything off the top of my head that would cause the tooltip issue. As suggested by others, I would recommend using the binary search method.
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05-13-09, 04:13 AM   #8
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I don't think there's any concern in regards to Talented. I'm running it as well, and have been since I started using nUI and have seen no issues as of yet. Talented itself has gone through some shakeups, but nothing that has affected any of the versions of nUI that I've ran.
 
05-13-09, 10:55 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by spiel2001 View Post
I see several possible conflicts there but none that I would immediately attribute to the tooltip thing.
  • Why are you running both WIM and PhanxChat?
  • I also see feed-o-matic which is a feature built into nUI already
  • I would also be concerned that Talented is conflicting with nUI's talent browser
That said, I don't see anything off the top of my head that would cause the tooltip issue. As suggested by others, I would recommend using the binary search method.

First to answer your queries...

- I run WIM and PhanxChat for completely seperate reasons. I had PhanxChat first because it reduced the amount of crap that goes into my chat and information boxes. And it provides a couple of nice features which Wow doesn't quite support yet. And then I found WIM for tell purposes. The seperate box thing makes it easier to reply to PSTs
- Feed-o-Matic is there because.. well.. because i like how it works. I understand that nUI has that feature built in but since I've been using Feed-O-Matic since... well... I honestly cant remember. So I'm just being stubborn with that one.
- Talented is non-issue anymore. I got rid of it. It wasn't doing what I needed it to do.

And this is amazing. The developer actually replied to me. That's amazing. I've used a lot of addons in my 3 years of WoW playing, and I have to say that this is the FIRST time the addon developer has responded to an issue I've had. Bravo sir, Bravo!

I have some time off from work today, so I'm going to work on that binary search. Its going to take a lot of time to log in, log out, disable an addon, log in and check if the error still happens. But hopefuly this will provide some insight.

Scott sir, you have just earned yourself a donation from me and my wife. I'll be sending it along shortly.

Thanks again!!
 
 

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