New Shaman Totem Feature - Page 3

fionaroth · 08-05-09, 10:34 AM

Thanks for the email and the update. It works beautifully. Screen shot for where I'd put it, only because that's where I had yata before and I'm a creature of habit.

Xrystal · 08-05-09, 12:21 PM

Here's where I put my stuff whilst using the shaman art. Pretty much where the pet bar goes as shammies dont get access to a pet bar.

Akikan · 08-05-09, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by spiel2001

This is almost certainly being caused by one of the addons you are using in the info panel... lots of people are having issues with Recount, so that's my first guess.

Make sure all of your addons are up to date. Try disabling everything except nUI... does it load correctly? If so, start enabling mods one at a time until it breaks, then you'll know the culprit. I would start with Recount and Omen though.

I tried using the most recent version that was emailed and logged in using only nUI active, and im still having the same issue, no visable party frames, map is in the upper corner etc.

*EDIT* i found the culprit, the Carbonite support feature for nUI was makin everything go wonky

Cianis · 08-05-09, 06:03 PM

i must be doing something wrong but i cant get the bar to show up. i used the e mailed update and am running the 5.05 nui version. ive turned off everything and did the / movers command but still nothing. any help would be welcomed.

Xrystal · 08-05-09, 06:18 PM

Do you see the new bar when you do not have any addons whatsoever ?

I noticed that if you aren't eligible to have the totem bar show it won't show.

alester_veran · 08-05-09, 06:25 PM

It works great so far after a bit of tinkering. As enhancement though (this wasn't the problem before) The cooldown for Stormstrike is counting it as 12 seconds on the button, while the cooldown timer is accurate at 8 seconds. Any way I can change that? as much as i'm used to the 8 seconds, looking down to see it with 4 seconds left still makes me wait while my rotations are going off.

Something I can fix myself or a script problem?

Cianis · 08-05-09, 06:29 PM

yes i see and have set up and used the bliz bar with no add ons but with only nui i cant see it

Xrystal · 08-05-09, 06:33 PM

I've not been enhancement beyond level 40 so have no idea on that spell so checking it up ...

Stormstrike - 8 second cooldown 12 second duration

What you are seeing is the duration counter. The color will change at 4 seconds to show you can recast it if you choose to but the debuff is still on the target.

That feature has been in nUI for a while but is relatively new.

Basically the duration count has priority on the display, switching to the cooldown when the duration count is finished.

I might be wrong on the colors but it will hopefully give you an idea.
Has a duration timer and a cooldown time r = purple ( or similar color )
Has a duration timer but no cooldown timer = blue ( I think )
Has no duration but a cooldown timer = red ( I think )

It doesn't take long to get used to but I had been using omnicc and inline auras to do a similar thing until it was incorporated into nUI.

Xrystal · 08-05-09, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Cianis

yes i see and have set up and used the bliz bar with no add ons but with only nui i cant see it

Hmm, I can't think of any reason at the moment why it wouldn't work. I had it work first time the moment I used it on my high level shaman with the new files.

alester_veran · 08-05-09, 07:10 PM

Is there any way to turn that cooldown off? I don't need it distracting me as it will disturb my rotation. It changes color at 2 seconds, which is 2 seconds longer than what would be useful.

I'd rather just have the actual cooldown. Enhancement doesn't wait for the cooldown to be up before using stormstrike again, we use it as a basic part of the rotation, and will use it at every chance (with priority only lower to a MW5 Lightning bolt and Feral spirit.)

It's a nice addition, but for that character it's distracting.

Xrystal · 08-05-09, 07:15 PM

Yes there are some slash commands you can do to turn them off

I can't remember them off by heart but try /nui bar durations to toggle them. If that doesn't seem to work try /nui bar to list the options.

alester_veran · 08-05-09, 07:24 PM

/nui bar duration turned off the debuff timer, and the cooldown is set back to 8 seconds.

The problem now is that the stormstrike timer doesn't count down from 8. it just stays greyed out with a yellow 8 on it until the ability is ready again.

x.x

Xrystal · 08-05-09, 07:26 PM

Hmm, strange. I've only noticed that problem on 1 second cooldowns or lower. Maybe Scott can shed a light on that.

alester_veran · 08-05-09, 07:43 PM

Hopefully. It's not terrible, like i said, it's more just a minor bug, i time my abilities ahead of time and without the cooldowns it's harder to do so.

Also, in the general pane, whenever I accept a quest in says "Creatinating *****" with the stars as a number. I'm guessing this is the UI adding the quest to it's log (either that or Questhelper being funky). Any idea which it is?

vessaris1 · 08-05-09, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by spiel2001

Did you install the patch file in the correct location? On a Vista or Windows 7 machine, it should be in [ C: > Users > Public > Games > World of Warcraft > Interface > AddOns > nUI > Plugins ] -- on an XP box it would be in [ C: > Program Files > World of Warcraft > Interface > AddOns > nUI > Plugins ]

I do have vista, but I have wow installed on my other hard drive, I wouldn't allow it to go to the other

And yes, I have the update, downloaded the movers thing, have the bar with no addons whatsoever, but even with just nui enabled, no luck.

spiel2001 · 08-06-09, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by alester_veran

Hopefully. It's not terrible, like i said, it's more just a minor bug, i time my abilities ahead of time and without the cooldowns it's harder to do so.

I have no idea what that is... I've never seen the timers not work at all and just "stick" on a number. I don't have a clue what's causing it and don't have a toon I can test that on. It sounds like the button isn't getting updates from WoW because that's what drives the timers. Do you have any other mods installed that interact with your actions?

Also, in the general pane, whenever I accept a quest in says "Creatinating *****" with the stars as a number. I'm guessing this is the UI adding the quest to it's log (either that or Questhelper being funky). Any idea which it is?

That's definately not nUI and I've seen other posts on the subject on the official WoW UI forum, but I haven't read them. You might wander over there to see what they are saying about that bug. From what I understand, it's a QuestHelper thing and the author is working on a fix.

spiel2001 · 08-06-09, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by vessaris1

I do have vista, but I have wow installed on my other hard drive, I wouldn't allow it to go to the other

And yes, I have the update, downloaded the movers thing, have the bar with no addons whatsoever, but even with just nui enabled, no luck.

If you do '/nui movers' you do not see a red box you can use to move the Shammy bar around? If not, then you have not installed the nUI_Movers.lua file into the correct location. It should be in [ Interface > AddOns > nUI > Plugins > nUI_Movers.lua ]

I'm going to put out a new release this evening with the Shammy bar code in it, so if you don't have it running by then, the update should do the trick.

alester_veran · 08-06-09, 05:57 AM

With everyone enabled as per the normal settings, stormstrike runs off the duration of it's debuff on the action bar button. Meaning once i use stormstrike, it appears with a purple 12s indicating how long the debuff has remaining on the target. This cooldown turns blue at about 3.8s remaining to display the ability is off cooldown. Under the hud, it correctly displays 8s for the cooldown of the actual ability.

Disabling /nui bar duration gets rid of the purple number and instead replaces it with a yellow 8s, that stays that way for at least six seconds. Anywhere below 2s and the duration will either "catch up" to the actual time, or simply stay at 8s for as long as a second or two AFTER the ability is off cooldown to reset, showing the ability available for use.

Disabling /nui bar cooldown makes me cry inside, as it removes all the cooldowns completly.

I'm not really sure what to make of it. If tried JUST using nUI and nUI Glossyblack (which, must be loaded as an out of date addon). Do you think the additional graphic from the nUI Glossyblack addon is interfering somehow?

Edit: The problem was with the addition nUI Glossyblack addon being out of date with the new nUI. Disabling it correctly fixed the cooldown problem with the storm strike cooldown not correctly counting down.

Xrystal · 08-06-09, 06:21 AM

Wow, that doesn't make sense. The art packages simply set the art images up on the screen using the nUI positioning commands. Nothing is ever done to functionality. But glad you got it figured out now.

spiel2001 · 08-06-09, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by alester_veran

With everyone enabled as per the normal settings, stormstrike runs off the duration of it's debuff on the action bar button. Meaning once i use stormstrike, it appears with a purple 12s indicating how long the debuff has remaining on the target. This cooldown turns blue at about 3.8s remaining to display the ability is off cooldown. Under the hud, it correctly displays 8s for the cooldown of the actual ability.

12s - 3.8s = 8.2s

Presuming that there's the typical 200ms latency (give or take) that time would be exactly correct. Remember, nUI *DOES NOT* calculate the time remaining on debuffs or the duration of cool downs, those numbers come *directly* from Blizzard.

In any event, even if you do keep the durations enabled, the transition from purple to blue is you cue to recast while the blue tells you you can still wait. It's also a cue when your spell has been resisted or missed since the purple color will not appear -- the yellow quickly tells you that the spell failed.

But, as always, these options are all there so people can do as they please with the UI.