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12-09-07, 08:54 PM | #1 |
Panel Mod Disgust
Anyone happen to know which revision number of Fubar was the last one to function correctly without overlapping minimap/bar/bouncy frame issues?
Titan and Fubar, you know - two of the top mods in use, both appear to be dead. My definition of dead in this sense - not having a release version updated to current game version. I understand the catch-all "beta" tag that's thrown all over the place and badly misused in this mod world, but honestly, how is it that arguably the two most popular addons are this sloppy in development? Granted, we all have lives outside of the game but damn it guys - do something about such sluggish development. Here's an idea - put together a team to provide releases. Any thoughts? If one person no longer cares about a certain "responsibility" to the community that comes in developing such popular addons, god sakes - get a group of people to help you put things out in a timely manner. I'd be willing to bet there are folks ready to pick up the ball and run with it. There is no excuse for the download version of Fubar (on this site) to be 20003. There is no excuse a person should have to go searching through the rather cryptic archives of Ace Files to find something updated and functional with the current game version. Why is it that new addons are coming out all the time based on outdated panel mods? Does anyone else see something wrong with this picture? If a person can't or won't develop their mod, they need to drop it or pass the baton to someone who can or will. The game of wow itself goes backwards all the time. Lately, Fubar and Titan are moving in the same direction. We get angry at Blizzard for patches that break new things. Why shouldn't we also get angry at addon authors who appear unconscious? Base addons should be updated. Always. Is it testing? Lack of testing? Lack of concern? Lack of time? What's the deal? Anyone know? I'll settle for a Fubar that's only "partially broken" and doesnt jump all over my minimap! If anyone knows a version that won't do this - kindly post! I'll put you in my will. Would it be possible to put Cladhaire (best author going) in charge of everything I use? No? DAMN! <not really angry or critical - just mildly sick of having to search so hard for updates to Titan and/or Fubar> Thanks |
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12-09-07, 09:04 PM | #2 |
The Ace files site is cryptic? I've never had much of a problem figuring it out.
If you want the latest version of fubar, just go here. http://files.wowace.com/FuBar/FuBar.zip It's always the latest. The lastest version is always bundled into a Modname.zip in it's directory. Pretty simple I think. Not sure about your bar mod jumping all over your minimap issue. Does it overlap it or something or does it put it in the face and take it's lunch money? |
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12-09-07, 11:49 PM | #3 | |
And yes, it overlaps. Many people are having the same issue(s) and can be found here at a bug reporting link no one really reads anymore (well, it's either that - or no one who can fix things reads it). Things that make you go hmmm... |
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12-09-07, 10:40 PM | #4 | |
the wowace files pages have become far more user-friendly since they implemented packagemancer (not that it was all that cryptic to start with...)...or what could be easier than using WAU? WUU maybe? the latest version of Fubar on this site is from March 2007....before ckk implemented the Rock framework. the latest version on wowace was updated 2 weeks ago. i'm really not trying to be argumentative here...just seems like you think the authors owe you something for some reason.
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12-09-07, 11:55 PM | #5 | |
2) WAU is a great tool, and I use it daily. It doesn't solve the problem that things aren't being updated/fixed. Once again, I refer you back to the open-ended "beta" term that's tossed around so frequently. But honestly, do you think the average wow user has even heard about WAU? I'm not talking about the game/addon/mod nerd types that live for tinkering with interfaces, but the general wow user. No one knows about this stuff, and for lots of people (not us), this is a very cryptic process (downloading/installing/updating wow addons). For reference, review any site's help forums for 1001 basic questions on topics you and I consider as easy as breathing. I will try the 2 week old version of Fubar, maybe that helps. Lord knows the bug-reporting does no good. Feel free to review the site posted in my previous response. Tons of open responses, no fixes, and no real activity. <still mildly disgusted> Thanks |
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12-10-07, 12:27 AM | #6 |
Where an author uploads a mod is up to them. Not up to you and your opinions. More locations for a mod = more places to take bug reports = more places to take feature requests = more places to answer support questions = more places to keep updated = more hassle for something that they make for themselves and release to others for free because they're nice.
Anyway, it's not an issue with FuBar, it's an issue with JostleLib, I believe. CK has been a bit AWOL lately - not sure what's happened to him... Perhaps he got tired of seeing people complaining, who knows. Everyone gets burnt out at one time or another. Or maybe he's busy with school. Or with another project. Or maybe something's happened to him. |
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12-10-07, 05:11 AM | #7 |
Stop using mods. Issue resolved. Thanx for playing the game and have a nice day.
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12-10-07, 07:22 AM | #8 | |
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12-10-07, 01:21 PM | #9 | |||||||
beyond that....Seerah and Taffu said it best:
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12-10-07, 02:22 PM | #10 |
I will give the OP some credit for a change
(well at least about his point, not the way to say things) Any discrepancy between the original addons websites and official releases on major UI sites will generate confusion. In that particular case more often than not we see answers like "wowace is beta anyway, you should not complain if you have a problem", which is perfectly okay, but then where are the official releases? Here? Not when some files are outdated and not compatible with the rest of the latest addons. I update directly against the original websites (being WowAce, Auctioneer, Atlas, GFW and so on), and sometimes it is only 2 or 3 weeks after the release there that it appears here (that is when it pops up in my favorites and I cannot remember whether I already updated it or not ). Most of the time it will never be a problem, but things like this do happen. I am not saying this is bad or anything, just that I can understand people get confused. Sometimes I do wonder why authors release addons to different websites saying "I will never check this site again, please go to this other site". Why posting here in the first place then? For a better visibility I guess. Again do not get me wrong, I am not implying any "author responsibilities" or whatever you call it, this is obviously a matter of personal opinions and not to be discussed. Just saying the OP has a point somehow. Like others said in this thread you will have to dig around to find your ways I guess.
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12-10-07, 07:48 PM | #11 | ||||
In any event, there's still a major problem with the two main panel mods not being able to keep current with the game version. Period. |
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12-11-07, 06:45 AM | #12 |
Cross posting by people who didn't author the mod
I'm not looking to overly complicate a discussion that has been so very very well addressed by the above posters but an aspect of mod usage that I don't think anyone mentioned is when someone else, other than the mod author, posts a mod to a site, other than it's author's desired home.
I'm sure we have all seen the "I am not the author of this mod. I'm just posting it here for everyone.". That can be a pain for people who consume that mod and do not realize that the posting will probably never get updated again and so will drift out of date and possibly become problematic. The poor user who downloaded it is oblivious to the author's desire to keep it on one or more specific sites for support and update purposes. Personally I never ever dig myself into that hole and always go to the source. Auctioneer is one such example. Apart from my comments here I too can see no reasons for the semi-rant of "Work for me for nothing and do my bidding" of the OP.
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12-11-07, 12:24 PM | #13 | ||||||
your real point seems to be "if you build it...and they come...then you gotta do even more" and i just don't think that's true. again, authors write addons as a hobby and those of us who are users have a responsibility to appreciate that fact instead of complaining with righteous indignation about how we aren't being spoon-fed updates and newer and better mods. edit: finished a sentence in my mind but not on my keyboard. Last edited by Rigorous : 12-11-07 at 12:27 PM. |
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12-11-07, 06:36 PM | #14 | |
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