Originally Posted by Conclusion
It however is overly crystal clear that Curse Gaming is simply out to make a business of not only catering to the WoW community and giving them the ease of access that they have enjoyed up to this point with updating addons but also catering to other games as well. If they were in it for completely wholesome intents, they would not be advertising their "Premium" services and the fact that they have an "Author's Rewards" program blaring over every screen that you access on their website.
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Umm, "Curse simply out to make a business"? Sure, that is their right to. However that "business" goes to support the two largest AddOn development communities in the entire WoW domain: WoWAce and CurseForge. In fact Curse has supported WoWAce for a very long time, prior to Curse supporting WoWAce, WoWInterface was doing the hosting.
Curse is perfectly entitled to advertise their Premium services. That money that comes in via the Premium subscriptions goes to support the Curse Network which includes WoWAce and CurseForge. Why shouldn't subscribers gets some nice perks for coughing up some money. If you are going to condemn Curse for have a Premium subscription, then you might as well paint WoWInterface and WoWUI.Incgamers with the same brush. Both have their own Premium services. In addition, Zam Networks (the parent of WoWInterface and the MMOInterface Network) has its own Premium services.
If people want to donate money to the authors of addons, then let them donate that money. However to make a business off the backs of people who are simply making things to help themselves and help others enjoy the game better to me is wrong. If everyone is so worried about bandwidth, why not let Curse (and for whatever purpose, Wowinterface) offer to give the money to the authors after the bandwidth bill is paid every month. As much as I think this would be nice, I know that it will never happen because Curse is in this for profit. I am still waiting to see if Wowinterface is going to follow that same bandwagon or not.
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So let me get this straight, the AddOn host sites are supposed to host out of the goodness of their hearts? Welcome to captalism. Its not all bad (and this is coming from a So******t). All of the AddOn sites are eventually in this for the profit, how else are things going to get paid for? From what I know Curse and WoWI plow their profits back into their websites. How else are things like an updater and new site features are going to paid for? With Pixie Dust and Good Intentions? Sorry, I left my rose colored glasses in the other room. Regarding Curse's Author Rewards, that is yet to be implemented, however Authors will be seeing some rewards for their labors. The Premium subscriptions and adverts help to pay for these goodies.
I sincerely hope that WoWInterface can come up with a clean program that gives users the ease that they have enjoyed with not only the Ace updater as well as Wowmatrix (as bad as hotlinking files hosted elsewhere is). However, you cannot deny that what those two programs (regardless of how you feel about either) have done to enhance the community as far as giving users who may be new to the game an easy way to download a mod or addon to enhance their gaming experience.
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No one has denied that both WAU and WM have provided two easy to use and clean tools. I know that Shirik, the dev on the MMOI Update Manager (WoWI's new upcoming updater tool) is working to produce a clean, cross platform tool. Why don't you check out the thread that talks about this new updater and look at the screenshots before you start worrying?
Instead of believing that I am out to cause a problem or I'm just another "OMG WOWMATRIX IS DOWN" poster, I am actually a college student and hold down a full time job on top of running a medium size guild. I have been a site administrator of a website that had been slashdotted on two occasions that caused us to get termed from our webhost due to bandwidth. If you have never been slashdotted, then you have no idea how a bandwidth bill can hurt at the end of the month and trying to explain to potential new hosts exactly what happened.
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Newsflash! So are many of the developers and WoWI supporters. I am an officer of one of the largest guilds on Bronzebeard EU. Almost all of us are working adults, some with kids (like myself), others are university students. Yet we all managed to update our mods WITHOUT WoWMatrix. This with things like raiding (Yes we are having fun in Ulduar), PvP, and all the Real Life activities that manage to eat our time. I should know as I am the AddOn Guru of my guild. Most of our members manually update, those who do use an updater use the Curse Client, and guess what? The CC users love it. We have had a few WM users, however I have cured them of that.
Regarding the Slashdotting, what do you think WM users were doing to both Curse and WoWI? Yes they were Slashdotting both sites EVERY DAY!!!!
I believe that the real (and correct) way to fix this problem once and for all is to offer a SUPERIOR product that the end user can enjoy. I do not believe that the end user is going to want to pay a monthly subscription fee, convenience fee, or whatever you may want to call it for something that someone will eventually come and circumvent.
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The Curse Client is free and always will be. Just you have to pay for the "One Button Updates" (not really a big deal with simple AddOn by AddOn update is still very fast. I know, I have used CC in this fashion, I don't like One Button Updates). MMOI Update Manger will be coming as well and it will be free. You may even see a Curse module written for MUM.
However I doubt any of this will get through the heads of the WM supporters.
EDIT: The word filter appears to have a political bias of some kind. It does not like Social ist)