Pls help, default unit frames.

[WaldoJeffers]

Default blizz unit frames are oftenly not displaying all group members in my group, forcing me to reload the UI to see all members. And also occasionally "stickying" my tagret frame ( ie. not allowing me to un-target and lose that target) the level of the mob/player's stickied target frame is then also ?? skull.

Default frames The only mod I have working with the unit frames is a blp file changing the color http://www.wowinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=7698

I thought it was Simple unit frames, then i thought it could of been aloft, then mobhealth3. I removed those 3 and the problem continues

Any suggestions, what can i do? What could it be? What should i check, i have no idea

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[Hellarion]

I don't know how to fix but my buddy uses just the stock blizz ui and his does this often

[WaldoJeffers]

Yea? Cheers mate. Perhaps it isn't an addon i have? Thats potentially saved alot of time, thanks Hellarion . Iiiiiii dunnno the default ui has flaws like that?

[Republic]

Originally Posted by Qynova Yea? Cheers mate. Perhaps it isn't an addon i have? Thats potentially saved alot of time, thanks Hellarion . Iiiiiii dunnno the default ui has flaws like that?

Yes. We also have 2 years of randomly disappearing pet/minion bars, vanishing escorts, and a host of other bugs that continue to provide a "paid beta" feel to World of Warcraft. Welcome.

[WaldoJeffers]

lol. Thankyou!
But I'm talking, 95% of the time someone joins the group I'm in, their frame will not show. Their frame usually then appears if another member joins the group, it will then display both the new player to the groups frame and the player that was not displaying a frame earlier. Not so much a problem when I join a group regarding group frame display ( in fact I'm not sure if there has ever been a prob with that) But when new members join a group I'm in, almost always the frames will not display. Hope thats understandable I doubt the fully default UI, no addOns whatsoever would do that almost always .

[Hellarion]

I use agUF and the only thing that gets me is my pets being named unknown and offline while theyre standing beside me. But anyhow, i'd invest in one of those addons that reloads your ui so u don't have to /console reloadui all the time and tuff it out till it can or if it can be fixed (and thats a really big IF). good luck

edited for really really bad spelling

[Republic]

Originally Posted by Qynova lol. Thankyou! But I'm talking, 95% of the time someone joins the group I'm in, their frame will not show. Their frame usually then appears if another member joins the group, it will then display both the new player to the groups frame and the player that was not displaying a frame earlier. Not so much a problem when I join a group regarding group frame display ( in fact I'm not sure if there has ever been a prob with that) But when new members join a group I'm in, almost always the frames will not display. Hope thats understandable I doubt the fully default UI, no addOns whatsoever would do that almost always .

I completely understand. I have never used any unit frame mods, but find the default Blizzard frames bugging all the time. In fact, here lately I've had party member frames disappearing at random intervals. When it happens, I tell the party I need to reload my UI to get them back and actually the last time it happened - it happened to someone else in the party at the exact same time. 2 out of 5 had the same party frame disappear at the same time. Who knows what triggers this? I sure don't.

I'm tired of boss fights with no target frames, etc. It makes it really difficult for a tank (I have a few tanking toons) to monitor mob debuffs, etc. Oh well. It's Blizzard, we should feel lucky we can log on and authenticate in under 5 minutes.

I guess my point is - the default Blizzard interface is FAR from perfect. With each patch, we get newly-broken features. Stay tuned to find out what they break in 2.3. I can't wait.

P.S. I think vBulletin forum software is a partner with Blizzard. I sure didn't tell it to not use my signature in this response, however, for some reason it only randomly applies signatures to posts. Anyone know why? Under my forum "miscellaneous options" the check is IN the box "show your signature". It was never removed from it, yet my signature doesn't show all the time. GG vBulletin.

[WaldoJeffers]

Shed some light, thanks guys! Hope it gets fixed

[Slakah]

I've never had this problem your talking about and I've been using the default frames for over a year. Go figure.

[WaldoJeffers]

Prob an addon then, i dont know which one, the list of my addons is on my 1st post. Any guesses which one it could be?

[Republic]

Originally Posted by Slakah I've never had this problem your talking about and I've been using the default frames for over a year. Go figure.

Aside from paying a subscription, nothing in this game happens consistently to all people all the time. Saying you've never had this problem only points to your personal luck, rather than the likelihood of experiencing the error(s). I may be wrong, but I think I've even read about UI taint issues causing problems with target frames, etc. I believe they were default Blizzard issues as well. Given the fact I read many websites, I don't think it's worth it to try to find the info. Suffice it to say, we're paying for beta quality gaming. Period.

[WaldoJeffers]

I think its an addon, i think slakah doesn't have the issue because he doesn't have an addon causing it, we do ( imo + guess ) You use addons right, Republic? I've just started what should be a very long elimination of addons process ( because the problem only occurs when group members join a group im in, that makes it quite slow for me) in hope of finding the problem if its an addon. I don't really know where to start. If anyone know any likely culprits please mention, thanks ( addons on 1st post)

[Republic]

Originally Posted by Qynova I think its an addon, i think slakah doesn't have the issue because he doesn't have an addon causing it, we do ( imo + guess ) You use addons right, Republic? I've just started what should be a very long elimination of addons process ( because the problem only occurs when group members join a group im in, that makes it quite slow for me) in hope of finding the problem if its an addon. I don't really know where to start. If anyone know any likely culprits please mention, thanks ( addons on 1st post)

I use a very minimal set of addons. I use the following addons across all toons...

Advanced Trade Skill Window
Atlas
Atlas Loot
Bayi's Extended Quest Log
CT_Mailmod
Omen
Titan Panel

That's all I use that is common to all the toons I play with. I use a few other specialized addons for specialized toons. The list is as follows...

Auctioneer (bank toon)
FishingAce (paladin and one of my warriors)
HealerButtons (my paladin and priest)
IgorsMassAuction (bank toon)
Outfitter (druid only)
Tankalyze (druid, both warriors)

As you can see, I run a very slim setup. I used to run Fubar and some of its associated common plugins, but I finally grew sick of the bipolar nature of Fubar and dropped it off my lineup completely. Other than that, this core list of "must-have" addons has been in use for quite some time (over 2 years in a couple cases) and it was not until the last couple of game patches where I began having the issues discussed in this thread.

Things that make you go hmmm. Maybe this helps you with your own troubleshooting, but I think it's a defeault Blizzard screw-up.

Good luck

[Seerah]

This is just a wild guess, but try replacing CT_MailMod with Postal (or something else, or even nothing!) and see what happens.

[WaldoJeffers]

Originally Posted by Seerah This is just a wild guess, but try replacing CT_MailMod with Postal (or something else, or even nothing!) and see what happens.

Yep, will do
I'll report back
Thanks for the list Republic

[Taffu]

One of my Guildies runs a stock UI aside from "occasionally" using Recap. As of most recently (ie. last 2-3 weeks) every time we get together for a run he has to log out and log back in because upon joining the group his blizzard unit frames do not update. It's been consistant, almost every time we group together. Base UI...no addons.

They don't ever disappear after the problem is fixed with a reboot, though. Just when he initially joins the group he needs to reboot every time. It's weird.

[WaldoJeffers]

:S

Perhaps the problem is from the players who frame is not showing end? an addon they use?

I haven't checked on ctmailmod yet, ill check now

[Cralor]

Happens to me when OTHER people join the group I'm in.

(Ex.: Person #1 invites me (#2) and then #1 invites #3 and me (#2) can't see #3, but everyone else can.)

To fix this, I just tell the person that I can't see to leave the group and get invited again. It always shows the second time.

Oh, and I too, believe it has nothing to do with Addons.

[WaldoJeffers]

Yep same as me Craylor. Almost always when a new member joins the group i won't see their frame. Also, I invite a player who was beside me, we were both in combat, and his frame did not appear. I know that if i join a group and im in combat, no frames whatsovever will display until i am out of combat. Like taffu said, perhaps something is delaying the unit frames from updating.

[Republic]

Originally Posted by Seerah This is just a wild guess, but try replacing CT_MailMod with Postal (or something else, or even nothing!) and see what happens.

I replaced CT_Mailmod with Postal. I will post again if something changes. I'll be trying it out tonight, etc.

Thanks